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The Carl Zeiss ZM f/1.5 50mm C Sonnar

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It took me so long to commit to the idea of buying a Zeiss ZM 50mm Sonnar. I must have hanged my mouse over a buy-it-now button of some sort countless times. Something just kept changing my mind at the last minute. Just recently, I decided enough was enough, I was going to end this cycle of indecision, bite the bullet and just try one. And you know what, my only regret was not buying the damned thing sooner.

The ‘Carl Zeiss C Sonnar T* 1,5/50 ZM’, to call it by it’s given name, or ’50mm C Sonnar’ as I shall refer to it throughout this review, is somewhat of an enigmatic lens… or at very least it’s a divisive lens. To my knowledge, there is very little else like it on the market. It’s a modern lens, with modern coated glass yet it’s optical formula is supposedly closely based on the early 1930’s Sonnar design. There are plenty of lenses that carry the Sonnar name, my Contax T3 has a 35mm 2.8 Sonnar, and even my Sony A7s spends most of its time sporting a Sony made Zeiss designed 55mm f1.8 Sonnar. Both of these lenses are superb in their own right, and arguably fairly short of objective flaws. The Zeiss ZM 50mm C Sonnar on the other hand, is not so flawless; not by a country mile

The ‘Sonnar’

Now, I don’t claim to be an expert in the field of optical formulae, in fact in truth I don’t really find it all that interesting a subject (probably because I don’t understand most of it). But, when it comes to the Sonnar lens design there is an interesting nugget of info that gives context to the objective qualities of the three lenses I’ve just mentioned. The Sonnar design is apparently at its best used in lenses that have smaller maximum apertures. The little lens on the Contax is objectively very good, in part I surmise because it’s only a f/2.8 lens. The Sony made Zeiss designed 55mm f1.8 is a technically stunning lens, but to make it such stunning lens it apparently needs 3 aspheric lenses, and the Sonnar design flipping backwards (thanks to Dave Lam for that latter piece of head-scratch-worthy technical knowledge).

Of course, the little Zeiss 50mm C Sonnar isn’t blessed with all these aspherical elements, nor does it even have any modern fancy floating elements like some of its modern fast 50mm counterparts. In fact, as mentioned, it’s design is supposedly a lot more like a simple old fashioned Sonnar. And yet despite this, like some of its elderly relatives from the 1930’s, it still has a f/1.5 maximum aperture. The outcome of this is what many would consider an objectively flawed lens. A lens that some would say, due to its old fashioned design is quite testing to use in the field and can quite readily result in images that are soft or in other ways degraded when compared to the photographic outcome of using more modern lens designs.

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So surely if this lens is flawed, it’s a non starter? Well, as I conclude in my post about defining the perfect lens, optical perfection is not necessarily a prerequisite for a good photo. In fact what’s more important, is what I describe in that post as a harmonious balance between all the elements within the construction of a photo. And therefore what’s more important in terms of lens choice, is that the chosen lens is suitable for the subject and desired final outcome. You can read much more waffle on that subject here.

What Zeiss say about the ZM 50mm C Sonnar

What’s interesting about the 50mm C Sonnar is that – reading between the lines a little – the above is almost exactly what Zeiss say about it. What Zeiss claim is that the ZM 50mm C Sonnar is in fact not ideal for all subjects. They claim it might be considered more ideal for portraits or for subjects where bokeh, shallow depth of field and perhaps the capturing of atmosphere are more important goals than technical perfection. They also say that if you are looking for technical perfection their ZM f/2 50mm planar is perhaps a better choice.

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This is all of course reflected in the chorus of users and testers of the lens. Search the Internet and you’ll find no end of advocates and detractors that all say pretty much the same thing about the 50mm C Sonnar, all shrouded in widely varying personal preference. The problem is, only a select few of these preferences come with enough context to extract a basis for the opinion. All of this can quite easily make the idea of buying one of this lenses quite a difficult conclusion to come to…

My own indecision about the Zeiss ZM 50mm C Sonnar

The problem I suffered when trying to decide about whether or not to buy one of these lenses was a nagging inside my head that I know all to well as the debate between the two halves of my brain. The one one half – the creative half – acknowledges the aforementioned idea that a perfect photo is not necessarily derived from a perfect lens. Whilst other half – the measured, more grounded, fastidious and even perhaps slightly anally retentive half – argues that it’s better to have a lens that’s closer to perfect as it’s less likely to cause flaws in a photo.

On this occasion this argument was so persistent that it prevented me from forking out for the Zeiss ZM 50mm C Sonnar for about 2 years. To be fair to my brain, whilst it does quite frequently turn out to be wrong or mislead, on this occasion the points the fastidious side had to make in opposition to the purchase – on the face of it at least – seemed quite valid. The first problem, or perhaps the most obvious question, was whether or not I even needed a 50mm as fast as f/1.5…?

First roll with 50mm Sonnar

Do I need a fast 50mm?

My previous everyday 50mm was a Leica 50mm Summicron, an f/2 lens whose character I was happy with and that I didn’t find imposed too many limitations on me. The problem was, there were these infrequent but nonetheless significant occurrences when I’d go out, want a 50mm, and not feel the Summicon was fast enough. To remedy this last year I bought a 50mm f/1.1 Voigtlander lens. It’s my opinion that the Voigtlander is a great low light lens and as such it made a great part-time-partner to the Summicron. The problem was, it’s massive, so after the novelty of having such a fast lens wore off I tired of taking it out. I just prefer my cameras to be as small as possible; that is after all the basis this entire blog is built upon!

A one lens set up

Additionally to this, I find it a bit mentally cumbersome having an extra lens for those odd occasions I needed the extra light gathering power. It’s much easier to just have one lens that fits a wider range of purposes. By having two lenses, I’d sometimes fret about whether or not I was going to regret taking the one I’d chosen.

By the merit of these two justifications, I eventually came to the conclusion a single smaller faster lens was the solution. Unfortunately by the time I’d come to this conclusion I’d read far too much about the Sonnar. Specifically the reports about the focus shift, claimed “softness” and the 0.9m minimum focusing distance. Because of these factors the ZM 50mm C Sonnar just seemed like it might be the wrong choice. Reviews about it just read like it’s some sort of fringe usage lens, only really suitable for people looking for a very specific look. On top of this, I’d also been thinking about a Leica Summilux and a Voigtlander 50mm 1.5, though neither had inspired a purchase. The extra investment for the ‘lux, and the size of the Voigtlander put me off, not to mention the fact that every time I thought about buying any fast 50, the 50mm C Sonnar popped back into my head with this big fat “maybe” hanging over it. In response to all this going around in circles, for a good while I just stuck with the Summicron.

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Of course, eventually I buckled and just bought the ZM 50mm C Sonnar. Almost amusingly in hindsight, the thing that tipped the balance and made me decide to buy one wasn’t actually the look of the images. I was fascinated by the character of this lens, but to a greater degree, buying into it actually felt as much of a of a gamble than anything else. The safe bet that swung the decision to buy the 50mm C Sonnar was quite simply the size of the thing.

Handling and size

According to Zeiss the ‘C’ in ‘Carl Zeiss C Sonnar T* 1,5/50 ZM’ stands for both “compact” and “classic”. The old lens design I’ve mentioned, and all of the character traits I will come to talk about throughout this review, are no doubt what they mean by the word “classic”. The word “compact” is of course a much easier concept to define, and define it Zeiss certainly have with the 50mm C Sonnar. I must say, this is especially noticeable to someone like me who’s previous fast 50mm was a Voigtlander 50mm f/1.1. For its specification, the 50mm C Sonnar really is a tiny lens, and for its size alone I cannot find fault.

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Focusing and feel

Unfortunately, and slightly frustratingly for me, I’m not the biggest fan of the focusing bump. To me a focusing tab needs to be a proper tab, something holdable, something that can be gripped. Generally, I also prefer lens to have a tab rather than not. In the case of the 50mm C Sonnar though, I think I’d rather it didn’t have anything at all. The bump itself is fairly ineffectual and sometimes it just feels like it’s more in the way than actually useful – it also meant I had to hack my Taab for it to fit.

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Thankfully, other than the bump, handling is as much as I could hope for really. I know everyone says the same sort of thing about these lenses. “Great but not as smooth as a Leica” being something I’ve read more times than I could count, and I suppose it’s true, but I’d be hard pushed to notice or care about any difference between it and a Leica lens when using it. Aperture clicks are also lovely and clicky too. They come with three clicks per stop, which is I suppose useful, though I personally don’t tend to use my cameras in a way that I benefit from such precise exposure control.

0.9m minimum focus distance

Of course, the focusing bump isn’t the only short fall of focusing with the 50mm C Sonnar. Another point of concern I held before I bought it was the 0.9m minimum focusing distance. One of the biggest “flaws” of the 35mm rangefinder is the 0.7 minimum focusing distance. With 0.7m I find myself frustrated sometimes that I can’t get close enough, so I was more than concerned that 0.9m would be a limitation to far. Now I have the lens I can confirm that I do indeed find it annoying sometimes. But actually, it’s really not as big a deal as I thought it might be.

One of the interesting things about rangefinders is that they force limitations on you. For those who don’t shoot them, this is one of their weaknesses. Some folks just can’t fathom why we rangefinder fans like to make our lives so much harder. Of course the reality is many of us thrive on the simplicity and limitation. My primary camera wouldn’t now be a Leica M-A if I didn’t.

The 0.9m minimum focus distance just becomes another limitation to work with. And actually it has to some extent made me assess further the purpose of a 50mm lens. Shooting a portrait at 0.9m forces you to think more about context when framing people. You can’t as easily just frame tight in and treat this lens as a portrait lens, you have to shoot the context. And actually that’s what suits this lens the most. It does such a good job of capturing atmosphere, it’s a shame not to take advantage of that.

Leica M-A, 50mm ZM Sonnar, Fuji 400h

That said, as you will discover later in the post, I have been using it as a portrait lens. In fact, I’ve just been cheating slightly. Since I’m not all that fussed about ultimate resolution, I’ve actually taken to using the 75mm framing lines as a guide for portraits then cropping in post… Make of that what you will, but it suits my needs just fine for when I don’t have my 90mm to hand, or indeed just fancy the look the 50mm C Sonnar gives…

Ultimately then, I can definitely say that now having used the lens for a while, owning just a single small lens a – even one with the 0.9m focusing limitation this one imposes – is definitely for me. Of course with this particular small lens comes the focus shift and a whole host of character traits that all combined, felt like a gamble … So the question I suppose you might want to know the answer to is whether of not this gamble paid off?

Focus shift

If you’ve spent any time reading about focus shift and the Zeiss ZM 50mm C Sonnar, you will know there is a lot of confusing and sometimes contradictory information out there. Well, I’m sorry to say that on the one hand I am going to add to that… Though hopefully I can also shed a little light on the reality of it all too.

Back in March I went to the Photography Show at the NEC in Birmingham. Since I find much of the show quite dull, it’s fair to say that one of the only reasons I went this time round was to hassle the folks on the Zeiss stand. There were a few things I wanted to ask them, but the one thing I really wanted to learn was how exactly the 50mm C Sonnar is calibrated when it leaves the factory floor today. But before I tell you what they told me, let me just explain the background to the question.

Focus shift and the Zeiss ZM 50mm Sonnar

As mentioned, the sonnar is based on a very old lens design, a lens design that inherently suffers with focus shift. It also happens to be particularly susceptible to it because of its wider f1.5 aperture. What this means for the 50mm C Sonnar is not just that it suffers with focus shift, but in a world where modern lens design with floating elements and such have prevailed over these older designs, its reputation for focus shift often seems to somewhat precede almost any other conversation about it (as indeed it as in this review).

What is focus shift?

For a bit of background as to what causes focus shift, you can read my post about the terminology here. In short though focus shift is where the point of focus moves back or forward as the aperture of the lens is changed. This doesn’t matter so much with cameras where you can confirm focus through the lens, but on rangefinder cameras it means that the distance that’s in focus might not necessarily match what the rangefinder indicates is in focus.

This might sound like a disaster, but all that it really means is that lenses that suffer the affects of focus shift are calibrated for perfect focus at a distance and aperture that give the best compromise across all focused distances and apertures. Unfortunately, where a compromise is made, objective “perfection” in the lens design can be seen to be lost.

First roll with 50mm Sonnar

A simple question, many answers

The reason I wanted to ask Zeiss this question is that if you spend any time reading about this online, the answer to how the lens is calibrated becomes more and more confusing. Some websites seem to say that the standard out of the factory calibration of the 50mm C Sonnar gives accurate focus at f/2.8 at 1 meter – many of these claims are backed up with test charts. This is said to mean the lens front focuses at wider apertures up to f/1.5 and therefore back focuses at smaller apertures. So that’s the answer then, what’s the problem?

Well, where things get confusing is that some other websites then claim that the standard the out of the factory calibration has now changed from accurate focus at f/2.8 at 1 meter to accurate focus at f/1.5 at 1 meter. Which might solve the problem of front focus wide open, but also means that the problem of back focus is even more severe, and indeed can apparently make focusing difficult until you get to at least f/8.

In theory this means that early lenses are f/2.8 calibrated and later ones are f/1.5 calibrated. The problem is, it’s very hard to find any reference to Zeiss saying this themselves, which is why I wanted to ask them directly. All this information around the web had led me to be so confused, there was no way I could even conceive of putting my money down. I wanted a straight answer right from the horses mouth… And do you know what, the info they gave me differed again.

What Zeiss told me

I asked the first person I met at the Zeiss stand at the photography show, unfortunately their specific expertise seemed to be more in the fancy Sony mount “Loxia” lenses. Short of having the answers I required she disappeared off behind the scenes and returned with a nice chap with a German accent to speak to me. What this chap told me, and indeed confirmed by email to me after the day is summarised by the following:

The out-of-factory adjustment of the 50mm C Sonnar when combined with a perfectly adjusted camera rangefinder will show about 1.5cm front focus at f/1.5 and 1m focusing distance, perfect focus at f/2 and 1m focusing distance, and about 2-3cm back focus at f/2.8 and 1m focusing distance.

He then went on to say that Zeiss found this out-of-factory adjustment to be the best compromise for this lens type for nearly all typical applications. He also said that it was possible to have the lens adjusted to however you liked by Zeiss, but that individual tests in typical applications with an individual camera body are essential prior to making any decisions about having a lens calibrated.

Leica M-A, 50mm ZM Sonnar, Fuji 400h

A bit of clarity…?

I personally felt that this gave me a little clarity on the subject. I suppose, since the answer I got from Zeiss didn’t correlate with what I’d read online, it could have taken it as adding flames to the fire of confusion. But for me, because it came from Zeiss directly, and not from a third party, it gave a sense of knowing something hopefully closer to the facts, rather than being confused by the hearsay.

The problem was, I still remained a touch uncertain about actually putting my money down. What I realised was that whilst I now knew this information – even without the discrepancy between various sources playing on my mind – I still didn’t know exactly tell how much this focus shift was going to impact my photography. Additionally to this, when reading about people’s subjective thoughts on the focus shift “problem” all I ever seemed to read were reports and reviews giving advice about living with the focus shift, and how to work around the problems it causes. All this information just still added up to a lens that looks like it takes superb photo, but sounds as though it’s massive faff to achieve said superb photo. Of course, in the end I got fed up of deliberating, and thanks mostly to the nice German man from Zeiss’s comments, I bit the bullet and bought one!

Focus shift in real life

As you might expect, nothing can make up for real hands on experience with this lens. Having now had said hands on experience, I can tell you two things that I’ve discovered; two pieces of information that I wish I’d had spelled out to me more fervently whilst my indecision was plaguing me.

1. When I test it, I can see the focus shift

I don’t have a digital rangefinder, nor do I have test charts or any specialist testing equipment… But, if I put the 50mm C Sonnar on my Sony A7s and point it at my computer keyboard at about a meter distance, focused on one of the keys at f/2, when I stop it down or open it up I can see the point of focus move to either a key behind or a key in front respectively. This amount of shift was way more than I’d thought it could be.

When I first did this test, I decided I was going to include photos in this review. But then I remembered one much more important discovery I’d made prior to doing my tests.

2. When I use the lens I have, I don’t suffer the focus shift!

Now, I should just clarify that statement by saying that clearly, I am of course suffering the affects of focus shift in my photos. It is after all a fact that it is occurring, I’ve tested it, I can see the lens does it. But, much more importantly, in the results I’m getting, I’m not feeling impacted negatively by said focus shift. In fact, more than that, I can’t readily detect its occurrence in my photos, and actually that’s even without attempting to compensate for it.

Leica M5 & 50mm 1.5 Sonnar

I’m sure there will be many people out there reading this thinking I must be mad. Many people who’ve tried this lens and seen and experienced focus shift when using it. But that’s my point, I have seen it, I know it happens, I’ve tested it and have seen it with my own eyes. But when I’m actually taking photos I’m not testing it, I’m just shooting with it, and when shooting with it, I don’t notice its impact. This of course might just be down to me shooting film and not digital, which would be more sensitive, or at least less forgiving than film. Or it could be that I personally am more forgiving because my requirement for “sharp” is not as high as some peoples. Or it might just be down to the way I use the lens (a subject I will come to later) but either way, I don’t find bother with it.

So what does this all mean?

Well, in short it means that if your looking for technical perfection this lens might not be the ideal. If for example your photography somehow requires precision focusing at close quarters with wide apertures, and yet for some reason you still choose to use a rangefinder under more controlled circumstances you might find issue with the 50mm C Sonnar.

But if like me, you just want to take nice photos of your family, and the wider day to day world around you, the chances are the 50mm C Sonnar’s focus shift isn’t going to bother you too much. Not to mention the fact that if you are still concerned, the measures most people suggest for avoiding the effects of focus shift just come down to a little bit of basic understanding on one hand, and being realistic in your expectations on the other.

Leica M5 & 50mm 1.5 Sonnar

Living with the focus shift – The back focusing

As I say, when I’m shooting I don’t really think about dealing with the problem of focus shift, but if you are concerned, there are ways to approach shooting this lens that will reduce, or even eliminate the possibility of shift altogether. The first solution deals with the back focus problem at smaller apertures and just involves a bit of basic understanding about how depth of field works. I think it’s quite common knowledge that what’s in-focus extends further beyond point of focus than it does behind it. Because the 50mm C Sonnar back focuses from f/2.8, the extension of focus in front the point of focus is smaller. As such, there is no real trick to dealing with the back focus, in theory all you need to do is just focus slightly more forward within the plain of what you want in focus.

What helps me personally is that I think I’ve probably always over compensated in this regard, as such so I can quite comfortably say I that haven’t changed my shooting habits at all, and have still been fine.

Living with the focus shift – The front focusing

Dealing with the potential for front focus at wider apertures is where a little bit more of a realistic expectation comes in. Focusing at 0.9m at f/1.5 is hard even with a lens that doesn’t focus shift. Depth of field will be as little as a few centimetres, simply swaying backward or forward ever so slightly could have as big an impact as the focus focus shift caused by this lens. And that’s only taking into account your movement. If your subject is moving too, at these sorts of apertures and distances, luck is as much a part of the equation as anything else anyway. This next shot is an example of where I thought I’d try shooting at f/1.5, and just missed focus.

First roll with 50mm Sonnar

If you are worried about this, you have to ask yourself, just how often do you actually need to shoot at f/1.5, and what are your reasons for doing so? If your aim is to shoot in as low light as possible, then all of the risks and usual concerns about shooting in lowlight apply anyway. Focus is just as easily missed through inadequate light, not to mention the fact that higher ISO’s and wider apertures bringing their own softening effects.

As such, when shooting a portrait at wide open 0.9m in low light with fast film, just how much is this minor focus shift actually going to further detract from chances of obtaining a perfectly sharp photo?

Embracing the imperfection – The positive side of a bit of focus shift

Of course, alternatively, your aim might be to achieve a look through shallow depth of field, and if that’s the case – given a few more of the facts – you might be somewhat more willing to forgive the 50mm C Sonnar it’s focus shift shortcomings anyway…

The reason the 50mm C Sonnar “suffers” focus shift is because of a flaw in its old ‘Sonnar’ design. It is this flaw that causes spherical aberrations, and it’s spherical aberrations that cause the focus shift. But spherical aberrations are also guilty of impacting quite strongly on bokeh. You can read more about these aberrations in my posts about sharpness and bokeh – though be warned, I go on a bit in the latter. To summarise what I say in those posts, in a lens like the 50mm C Sonnar, where the under-correction of spherical aberrations results in focus shift, it also impacts positively on the bokeh in the background out-of-focus of photos taken with it. That is to say, where this optical imperfection takes away technically accurate focus, it also brings positive attributes in terms of bokeh and subject background separation.

Bokeh

A lot of the reputation for this lenses positive character traits seem to revolve around it having good bokeh. As such bokeh is perhaps the logical place to start when talking about the 50mm C Sonnar’s character. That said, I want to insist at this point that bokeh alone is far from the full story in terms of the character of this lens.

What I think is especially interesting about this lens and the subject of bokeh starts with is how it’s almost universally spoken about as having wonderful creamy bokeh, and yet despite this there are some people that report bad or fizzy, distracting bokeh. There is of course good reason for this. It does quite readily create quite lovely smooth creamy bokeh, but like most lenses it is indeed also capable of distracting bokeh given a specific set of circumstances. You can see an edginess in the background of both the previous photo and this next one.

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The problem for the 50mm C Sonnar is that this is just the wort of specific set of circumstances a specific type of photographer will throw at it as part of a process of judging it. What I find interesting about this is that in the same way as this lens falls over when you scrutinise its in terms of focus shift, it is also capable of falling over when it’s bokeh is scrutinised. Whereas if you just use it normally and realistically, you are unlikely to ever really see either negative attribute – I shall come back to this point later.

The style of shallow depth of field

Just to go off on a hopefully relevant tangent for a moment… Shallow depth of field has become somewhat of a style in its own right. There are many photographers who like to create a narrow depth of field look in their photos that sits outside of a necessity to shoot at wider apertures for low light. Some photographers like use wider apertures to create a sense subject background separation, even outside of portraiture where this style is perhaps more traditionally used. I have no problem with this as a creative methodology in its own right, but unfortunately, what sometimes comes with this type of photography is a type of photographer who obsesses about bokeh to what I see as an almost unhealthy extent. This obsession breeds what I call the “hypocrisy of the bokehphile”. This is where the attention of the photographer shifts from the in-focus to the out-of-focus – the very thing that is supposed to be ignored. In turn this goes on to breed unnecessary over examination of lenses ability to separate subject from background and render out of focus elements smoothly. I go into much more depth on this subject in my post about bokeh if you’re interested.

I mention this here as it seems to me that since this lens has a reputation for having great bokeh, it is seemingly put under even greater scrutiny by the bokehphile. It’s the bokehphile who picks up this lens, sets it to f/1.5 and goes about taking photos of people in woods with dappled sunlight in the background expecting the out of focus to be perfectly smooth. Of course the outcome isn’t what said bokehphile hopes and they find a slightly fizzy and confusing background in some of their photos.

First roll with 50mm Sonnar

This is of course a reality of almost any 50mm lens. Shot wide open the broad majority of 50mm lenses suffer some degradation in the way out of focus highlights are rendered. This is again something I talk about in my post about bokeh – search for the word futile, follow the link and you’ll see what I mean… Anyway, the point I make in that post is that it’s shortsighted to claim any lens has universally “good” or “bad” bokeh, and is much more important to be specific and give context to comments on the subject.

Specific comments on the 50mm C Sonnar’s bokeh

Being specific about the 50mm C Sonnar I would say that it does indeed have a slight propensity to confused bokeh when shot wide open with things that are traditionally known to cause bad bokeh – dappled light through trees for example. Of course the reality is, even at f/1.5 bokeh is lovely in most normal circumstances, it has to be pushed to get that “bad” bokeh that you’ll sometimes find people mention.

In the larger majority of circumstances the 50mm C Sonnar will render the out of focus wonderfully smoothly. But if you’re in doubt, either don’t point it at things that cause “bad” bokeh or just stop down to f/2 where you can expect much smoother out of focus rendering in almost any circumstance

Leica M-A, 50mm Sonnar

Subject separation

The way a lens separates a subject from a background isn’t just about the character of the bokeh. At the widest apertures the band of focus is of course quite slim, but more than that – thanks I suspect to the aforementioned under correction of spherical aberrations – what’s in focus seems to melt away to out-of-focus quite quickly. Now this could be said to make focusing this lens a touch harder, in fact it’s probably a greater factor in what makes focusing harder than than the focus shift. But, what this quite nicely aides is a sense of subject separation from the background. Even where the subject is quite close to said background, the appearance of separation from it remains great. This is even the case when the lens is stopped down somewhat. This positive subject separation is one of the big factors in what is often referred to as 3D pop – a subject I will get to later.

Wilces Cider

Leica M-A and 50mm 1.5 Sonnar

Leica M5 & 50mm 1.5 Sonnar

Sharpness

To comment on sharpness, it’s important to at least have an in focus photo. As mentioned above, focus shift and the quick transition to out of focus can perhaps cause problems with sharpness at wider apertures. But, when sharpness is obtained – even at the wider apertures – in my opinion it’s more than satisfactory for the sort of subject matter I shoot.

What’s important to remember about the 50mm C Sonnar though is how sharpness is rendered. Zeiss themselves have referred to this lens as having a “rounded sharpness”. How I think this translates is that images are still sharp, but rather than rendering ultra high levels of fine detail through high resolution, the structure of detail is rendered with good levels of contrast. This couldn’t be more true at wider apertures.

Emily

Take the above portrait of Emily, our apprentice at work. Shot at I think f/2, if inspected overly closely one might find resolution to be slightly lacking. Finer details are perhaps not rendered, well, finely. But viewed as a whole the high contrast gives the image a more than satisfactory perceived sharpness.

James

Then take this photo of James (34), who doesn’t quite have the youthful completion of Emily (18), and you can see the texture of his skin. The texture is defined by the lenses contrast, but thanks to slightly lower levels of resolution, the texture doesn’t appear bitingly sharp or overly defined in an unflattering way. Or as Zeiss put it the sharpness is “rounded”.

Stopped down sharpness

Stopped down, the story is the same but different. I’ve never seen a photo taken at any aperture with the 50mm C Sonnar where I’ve felt the detail to be too heavily defined. But stopped down there does appear to be a touch more resolving power. I’d still not class it as what people like to call “bitingly” sharp. “More than adequately sharp” is probably the best objective description I can give it, at least in the context of my needs.

Leica M-A, 50mm Sonnar

Wilces Cider

Overall, I can certainly see why the Zeiss marketing department came up with the word “rounded” to describe the sharpness of the 50mm C Sonnar. Had I been sat around the table when they decided upon that word, I’d probably have pitched the word “organic” – though I guess that would probably not be quite technical enough. To me, it doesn’t ever feel like the lens is resolving like some of the 50mm lenses I’ve shot with lately – especially some of the modern digital camera lenses. But as I say, where it lacks resolution, it makes up for it with a sense of contrast that means subjectively speaking images don’t feel soft, but instead feel sharp in what I see as a more realistic way, perhaps even I a way that makes things feel three dimensional…?

3D pop

This concept of 3D pop is one of those minefields that causes all manner of smart arse to add overly complicated speculation to what creates an image that has an undeniably 3D look to its rendering. Of course 3D pop is just a made up thing, there’s no measure for it, it’s completely subjective, and sometimes it’s just as much derived from the light and shade within an image as anything else.

That said somewhat depending on how depending on how you define it, there are usually two key lens characteristics that are quoted as being responsible for creating a photo with a sense of 3D pop. Smooth bokeh and quick transitions to out-of-focus is one, and as previously alluded to, lens contrast is another.

Take the portraits of James and Emily above. The macro effect of higher lens contrast is an undeniable clarity within an image that helps the subject “pop”. Combine this with distinct subject from background separation and you have an image that will look 3D. Of course, in the case of these images, light and shade have definitely helped with defining the three dimensional nature of my subjects too – which I suppose emphasises the fact about “3D pop” being sometimes derived light and shade. Here’s another few example

James

What’s interesting about 3D pop is that I suspect some people would argue over which the main factor in creating it in the portraits I have used as examples. Some might say its the contrast, some the separation from background and some might speculate that it is down to little more than light. But one way or another taking many of the images in this post into account, it’s hard to ignore the fact that the 50mm C Sonnar is very good at aiding in the creation of the look.

Wilces Cider

Leica M-A, 50mm ZM Sonnar, Fuji 400h

Flare and light

Like most lenses the 50mm C Sonnar reacts to being pointed toward the sun or bright sources of light. My personal concerns in this area are usually around flare, or more specifically around the type of flare known as ghosting. My last lens review was on the subject of the 35mm v3 Summicron, a lens that ghosts with sometimes big red blobs central to the frame. Some people like this sort of thing, or at least don’t find it a problem. Unfortunately, it’s not ideal for someone like me who routinely points the camera at the sun and doesn’t like ghosting being too intrusive. Fortunately, with the 50mm C Sonnar, try as I might, I couldn’t get anything similar to happen. In fact, despite shooting into the sun quite regularly since I’ve owned then lens I am yet to see any real sign of ghosting at all. A very impressive feat I think. This next shot with the sun just out of frame is possible the least desirable flare I have ben able to create

Leica M-A and 50mm 1.5 Sonnar

But, where there might be no ghosts, there is still a distinct and identifiable reaction to bright sources of light. Most noticeable at wider apertures there is a strong glow that emanates from bright lights and lowers contrast locally to them.

Wilces Cider

Were this an older, less well coated lens I suspect you would see veiling flare across the whole image, but thanks I suspect to lens coatings the effect is limited to a localised glow. The effect is reduced slightly by stopping down where the glow shrinks and out of it come the points of a star that match in number the amount of aperture blades.

Leica M5 & 50mm 1.5 Sonnar

To me this all adds quite a bit to the character of the photos, a character that is very noticeable in the photo below. Thanks to the way the lens has reacted to the light, the image glows in places and looks almost ethereal.

Leica M-A, 50mm ZM Sonnar, Fuji 400h

Whats interesting to me though is that whilst the above photo really shows off this ethereal look, actually, once you’ve seen the way the 50mm C Sonnar responds to light in this way, you start to recognise the effect in many other photos. The way all light is rendered by this lens – or at very least all higher contrast light – just somehow feels like it has a glow to it. The lack of ghosting, combined with this glow adds a great deal to the character of the 50mm Sonnar that I have so far described.

Leica M-A, 50mm ZM Sonnar, Fuji 400h

Leica M-A, 50mm Sonnar, HP5 pushed 2 stops

Leica M-A, 50mm Sonnar, HP5 pushed 2 stops

Leica M5 & 50mm 1.5 Sonnar

So are there actually any negatives at all?

I’m sure to anyone reading this who doesn’t like the 50mm C Sonnar, or prefers objective perfection in their equipment, much of I’ve said so far must sound like positive spin, or at least a view taken through rose tinted glasses. Well, of course it is, in fact using this lens feels a little like shooting with rose tinted glasses to me. But actually, my comments are only positive because I feel so positive about such a large portion of the photos I’ve taken. I do want to point out though, that however much I like it, I’m not blind to the failings, the biggest one I’ve so far witnessed being its sometimes visible problems with colour aberrations.

Colour aberrations

Shooting the 50mm C Sonnar I’ve noticed both longitudinal and lateral chromatic aberrations. The former you can see on the straw in this shot.

Zeiss Ikon and 50mm Sonnar

And the later in the leaves top left of this shot.

Wilces Cider

The problem of longitudinal aberrations seems to be quite drastically reduced by stopping down. The first photo was taken at f/1.5, if I’d shot it at f/2 it wouldn’t have been a problem I don’t think. The biggest concern for me about these colour aberrations is not how they impact me, but more how they might if someone were to shoot with this lens if they primarily shoot digital. The effects of colour aberrations tend to be a lot less intrusive on film, something to do with the physical depth of the film emulsion. Fortunately for me, I don’t shoot much digital recreationally and don’t have plans to use this lens when I do. Not to mention the fact that I don’t shoot the lens wide open that much. Just beware of you’re a digital shooter or you have a penchant for wide open shooting, you might find some colour aberrations creeping into your photos.

Shooting realistically

Just before I conclude my thoughts on the 50mm C Sonnar, I just want to talk a bit about taking a pragmatic approach to shooting with it. People often seem talk about a necessity to be careful with this lens in a bid to avoid tripping over its shortfalls. For me the reality is less about taking care and more about shooting it in a realistic way with realistic expectations. To me, taking “care” implies that the shortfalls of this lens on a technical level are to be avoided. I don’t think this is the case. Being realistic, and understanding the lens, is just about using it appropriately and understanding what the impact of using it in various circumstances will be.

Leica M5 & 50mm 1.5 Sonnar

For example, If you push your luck and shoot at f/1.5 in the day time, in a wood, with dappled light in the background, you might find yourself with ever so slightly distracting bokeh. But of course, rather than shoot at f1.5, if you just stop down a bit to f/2, that problem all but disappears. Now you might argue that you want ultra shallow depth of field for your portrait? Well, to my mind the finite goal of ultra shallow depth of field is in itself quite shallow – and perhaps not that appropriate when looking at the 50mm focal length anyway. With the steep transition to out-of-focus, the propensity to create a sense of 3D pop and the way it handles light and flare, the 50mm C Sonnar has plenty of other character traits that collectively supersede a necessity to shoot wide open to create an aesthetically appealing portrait.

Because of this, it feels like there there is actually very little need to shoot at f/1.5 with this lens outside of low light circumstances, and this is exactly what I mean about shooting it realistically or appropriately. By taking realistic approach, the rewards it gives are much greater than the sum total of the sacrifices some might attribute to its objective failings. Yes you could buy a Leica Summilux or Voigtlander Nokton, either of which might provide a more objectively “good” outcome were you to shoot wide open all day every day, but would either lens also give the character of the 50mm C Sonnar…?

Of course, when low light situations rear do their head, the 50mm C Sonnar does still have that extra best-part-of-a-stop of light gathering power on hand. And whilst it might be slightly more difficult to shoot with at f/1.5, it’s by no means impossible. In fact, as mentioned, I’ve really not had that much trouble at all. And since shooting in low light with any lens comes with many difficulties, the extra “issues” the Sonnar brings to the table are not exactly insurmountable. Not to mention the fact that once again the lens brings its positive character traits to the table.

Leica M-A, 50mm Sonnar, HP5 pushed 2 stops

Since I’ve owned my 50mm C Sonnar, very rarely have I shot with it in a way that has pushed it to failure. At least not in the way you might expect if you’ve read some of the other reviews about it online. I am perhaps fortunate in that I am now so used to shooting with my Summicron – an f/2 lens – that I’ve not been fussed about shooting at f/1.5 unless absolutely required. It took me a little time to realise it, but really I think it might have been my approach to just shooting “normally” with this lens has helped reap such a positive outcome for me. In short, because I didn’t buy it to shoot wide open at every given opportunity, I’ve just not felt so challenged by the lens in the way I guess you might if you went about shooting with the lens locked at f/1.5.

My Conclusion (Skip to the end)

Whilst some see the 50mm C Sonnar as a challenge to shoot – an untamed beast if you will – it only really causes issues if you challenge it unrealistically. If your goal is to poke the beast with a stick and shoot everything at f/1.5, well then you might find the beast bites back and – perhaps down to the narrow depth of field or indeed due to the focus shift – you miss focus sometimes. You might also find slightly distracting bokeh once in a while, and maybe some chromatic aberrations to boot. But, if you treat the lens with realistic expectations, and just stop down a stop when the wide aperture isn’t really needed, these issues become almost entirely none existent.

Leica M-A, 50mm ZM Sonnar, Fuji 400h

What’s important to realise with this lens is that it’s not objectively perfect and therefore won’t produce clinically perfect results. In fact, if you stringently test the 50mm C Sonnar, you are quite likely to find failure, or at very least objective imperfection that might well put you off shooting with it. Those who look to closely to find flaws will find flaws, but in the process of doing so might also fail to see the bigger picture – both figuratively and literally!

This figurative picture – a picture that I feel is sometimes lost on people – is that actually the requirements so often imposed on a lens for objective perfection are far from being the prerequisites to a great photo. When the literal picture – a photo taken with the 50mm C Sonnar – is viewed as a whole, the objective failings of this lens are in my opinion entirely nullified by the wider character traits that shine through.

The sense of realism created by the three dimensional feel this lens renders combined with the way light is dealt with adds up create images that somehow feel to me like they contain the life that they have captured. This might sound a bit hippy-dippy or overtly subjective nonsense, but when I look at the photos I take with this lens, it really does feel like there is something beyond what I have tried to explain objectively throughout this meandering review.

Leica M-A, 50mm ZM Sonnar, Fuji 400h

I suppose in reality it is just a case of the subjective total feeling greater than the sum of the parts, but when the various character traits I’ve described somehow combine to capture a sense of atmosphere, something somehow organic, something entirely un-clinical, and despite the obvious dose of character, still uncontrived and real, its hard not to get slightly irrational and smitten by this lens (smitten being a word I have read a good few times in commentary about this lens).

Ironically of course, despite my deeply doughy eyed response to the 50mm C Sonnar, I wouldn’t be so bold as to go around recommending it to anyone and everyone. Some people do want more clinical rendering, and really I can make no cogent argument against that. For me, the 50mm C Sonnar just opens a wide door to the understanding that I should listen more to the creative side of my brain, and ignore the other side as much as possible when it comes to photography. In short, technically perfect clinical rendering is just not something I personally am looking for in my photos. In fact, what you have seen in my results throughout this post is exactly what I am looking for in a lenses rendering. So much so that I’ve barely touched another lens since I bought it. My 50mm Summicron hasn’t been used at all, I’ve loaned it to someone, haven’t missed it once and now intend to sell it.

In short, the Zeiss ZM 50mm C Sonnar is not only a keeper for me, but it almost also represents a full stop. For the first time in years I feel entirely satisfied and entirely unhindered by my choice of equipment, I also feel quite strongly that I have the 50mm C Sonnar to thank for that!

Thanks for reading,

Hamish

Relevant links
A lot more of my photos on flickr
The Zeiss Website
My thoughts on defining a perfect lens
A forum post on RFF about the focus shift
A review from Ray Larose
Lavida Leica Review
Roger Hicks Review


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66 Comments

  • Reply
    Karl
    November 22, 2015 at 10:49 am

    Again – a great review of a bloody great glass!

    • Reply
      Hamish Gill
      November 22, 2015 at 10:53 am

      Thanks Karl! :)

  • Reply
    Debmalya
    November 22, 2015 at 11:04 am

    Hi Hamish, very well rounded and extremely enlightening review. I however have a off topic question. Your film scans are simply stunning; a feat I cannot achieve with my epson 550 flatbed even with ANR glass insert and all. What is your workflow may I ask?

    • Reply
      Hamish Gill
      November 22, 2015 at 11:12 am

      It’s quite simple, I get someone else to do it…
      I use a lab called AG Photo Lab. They are a fairly old school lab and don’t offer a particularly fancy service like Richard photo lab, UK film lab or the like, but they do a good job!
      They use a Noritsu scanner, compared to the Fuji Frontier that many labs use. The noritsu is known for warmer colours, something I tend to prefer.
      I hope that helps, and I’m glad you appreciated the review :)

      • Reply
        Debmalya
        November 22, 2015 at 11:17 am

        Oh wow. After coming to UK, I developed all my colour photographs from AG photographic. I didn’t try their scans yet. Seems fantastic. Thanks Hamish.

        • Reply
          Hamish Gill
          November 22, 2015 at 11:18 am

          Just make sure you expose well, and these are the sorts of results you will get

  • Reply
    Blinx
    November 22, 2015 at 11:13 am

    I’m glad you’ve found a lens whose rendering you like. Most of my favourites are objectively flawed, though focus shift is something I avoid in lenses. It seems to be a facet of wide aperture standard focal length lenses that don’t have correcting elements, but those extra elements lead to a sterility many modern lenses exhibit. F2 and F2.8 max aperture fifties don’t show shift, and have sufficiently narrow depth of field and softness wide open, that I don’t look wider. As a rule, the fewer glass elements a lens has the more I like the results. I even like 3-element lenses, though four is the minimum for optical correction across a range of apertures.

    Finding a lens you like makes life easier as you can get on with the photography and stop worrying about the demons placed in your head by marketing men! Besides, when was photography ever an objective medium?

    • Reply
      Hamish Gill
      November 22, 2015 at 12:18 pm

      That’s the thing though isn’t it, whilst photography, or at least the outcome is largely subjective. The objectivity comes into play quite heavily in the creation of the tools. And since the tools have to be bought with cash, they also have to be bought into mentally through the rationalisation of their objective merits. Therefore it’s very easy for these merits to seep into the psyche of the photographer and distort these prerequisites for a “good” photo I talk about.
      The thing is, I don’t think there is any escaping it, we are so programmed to work this way as humans now.
      Anyway, this is a tangent…
      I’d be interested to hear more about some of your choice 50’s! Is that something you might consider contributing to this blog in the form of a guest post?

  • Reply
    Jean-Marc SCHWARTZ
    November 22, 2015 at 12:32 pm

    Très bonne revue. Essai remarquable.
    Selon moi, j’aurai du mal à investir dans un tel verre sans certitude d’obtenir le point à sa plus grande ouverture. Mais ce verre m’intrigue quand même. Peut-être un jour, juste l’essayer.

    • Reply
      Hamish Gill
      November 22, 2015 at 12:41 pm

      Merci Jean-Marc. I’m sorry, my French is awful so I had to use google translate, so I hope I understand what you mean…
      For a long time I thought “one day I’ll just try it”, that day came and as I said, I regret not trying it sooner. I’m not saying you should go out and buy it now, but if you have any in long that it might suit you, I’d try it sooner rather than later. You might be surprised!

      • Reply
        Blinx
        November 22, 2015 at 1:45 pm

        Possibly Hamish, I’ll have a think when I get my current workload out the way.

    • Reply
      jeremy north
      November 22, 2015 at 5:56 pm

      What he’s saying Hamish is that from his point of view, he’d worry about dropping all that money on a lens where focus when fully opened up is uncertain. The lens though intrigues him so maybe one day he’ll try it out.

      • Reply
        Hamish Gill
        November 22, 2015 at 6:04 pm

        Thanks Jeremy. That was completely my concern. Though as I say, it turned out fine for me when I bought it.

  • Reply
    Aukje
    November 22, 2015 at 3:02 pm

    Great photos. I am still wondering if it has more to do with your eye for great light than the rendering of the lens…
    About the 3D-pop /ghosting discussion: a bit of ghosting can add to the 3D quality of a photo as well (to add to an endless discussion 😉 )

    • Reply
      Hamish Gill
      November 22, 2015 at 4:10 pm

      Well I suppose what I point a camera at does play a part… But the lens definitely adds it’s bit :)
      It is an endless convo, that’s the thing with subjective subjects like this. An interesting convo though!

  • Reply
    Gábor
    November 22, 2015 at 6:28 pm

    Hi Hamish,

    I have really enjoyed your review about this lens. As you know I also use the C Sonnar as my primary lens and it seems that we approach this piece of glass in a rather similar way. It all boils down to the expectations, and if you are realistic about it, you can enjoy the character and all the goodness it can provide.

    I mainly shoot it at f/2, close to the minimal focusing distance, and I have not experienced any focusing issues there. Your information from Zeiss just confirms my findings about focus shift. But like you when I try to compensate it I always overdue it. So my strategy is to shoot normally and if something feels risky like a portrait wide open, I take a second shoot. It is so easy to miss at large apertures anyways.

    Just one comment to the flare resistance part of your review. To my knowledge it is not only the modern coating which helps this lens in this respect, but the design itself. There is relatively few air/glass boundaries in this lens therefore the reflections are less likely to occur. I have poorly coated Russian copies of the original Sonnar and they are performing reasonably well in this respect. The contrast in general is much lower, but flare is rarely a problem.

    In any ways, thanks for your review, it must have been a lot of work and I always enjoy to read about my favorite lens. Both me and my wife liked the photos very much you used in this post as well.

    Gábor

    • Reply
      Hamish Gill
      November 22, 2015 at 7:28 pm

      Hi Gábor. That’s interesting what you say about the air/glass boundaries, and this being part of the flare resistance. I have no idea about the science there, though it does make sense I suppose. I might as Zeiss next year at the photo show see if they have an answer I can make sense of 😉
      Otherwise, it’s good to hear my observations and experiences being mirrored in someone else’s. Reassuring that I’m not the only one who finds the lens actually quite normal to shoot with.
      Also nice to hear that you and your wife liked my images! :)

  • Reply
    jeremy north
    November 22, 2015 at 6:32 pm

    This is a very thorough review as usual. I agree with you that it is rather meandering. Somewhat complicated by a lot of repetition. I read it more as a stream of consciousness than a straightforward review. Great to hear your thoughts.

    It shows that you are conflicted between the artist and geek. I’m glad you came down on the side that rendering is more important than “sharpness”. After all, rangefinder cameras were not designed to be used for close up work. The parallax is a big problem there.Why do people lose sleep over these technicalities? OK so I know the answer, it is all about numbers. “Yes but this one goes up to eleven” !

    I suppose you had to put together a technical explanation of the lens to satisfy the pixelpeepers but I bet most of us would be happy with: Hey it’s a Zeiss Sonnar. A true classic design. It renders images beautifully and that front element is lovely on the front of my Leica. Who wants a poxy f2 when you can have a 1.5!
    I was reading another review of this lens on another blog a while ago Mr Leica. It is the first and only time I’d come across the problem of focus shift. Why I wonder has no other lens had so much comment on this one esoteric ‘problem’
    I got the impression that most people who were writing about it were repeating what they’d heard and didn’t actually know anything about it. Like you, I thought I’d better go to the source so contacted Zeiss. Here’s the reply they kindly sent me.

    “Thanks for your feedback.

    Just a few facts about focus shift:
    -all spherical lens types without special corrections suffer from a certain amount of focus shift caused by spherical aberration.
    -lenses with high aperture (high speed, e.g. f/1.5) suffer more from this issue than slower lenses (e.g. f/2).
    -lenses without floating elements design (e.g. Sonnar T* 1,5/50 ZM) show more focus shift at closer distances than at infinity compared to lenses with floating design

    Rangefinder lenses with rangefinder coupling (e.g. M-mount) can only be adjusted to show correct focus with the rangefinder at a certain distance and a certain f-stop. The rangefinder of the camera cannot compensate the effects of focus shift. So every adjustment of the camera´s rangefinder and the lens is a compromize.

    In practical use, this means:
    -when using those lenses on cameras in live view mode (e.g. Leica M240, or adapted to a mirrorless camera) with pre-selected aperture value, the focus shift is no problem at all. The effects of the focus shift can directly be seen on the screen and the lens could be re-focussed before taking the picture.

    -the out-of-factory adjustment of the C-Sonnar (together with a perfectly adjusted camera rangefinder) will show the following results:
    about 1.5 cm front focus at f/1.5 and 1m focusing distance
    perfect focus at f/2 and 1m focusing distance
    about 2-3 cm back focus at f/2.8 and 1m focusing distance

    We found that this out-of-factory adjustment is the best compromize for this lens type for nearly all typical applications.

    Any different adjustment of the C-Sonnar is possible. So if the lens is adjusted for zero focus shift at f/1.5 and 1m, the back focus at f/2.8 (and stopped down further) will increase significantly, making it much harder to focus when stopped down.

    So before considering an individual adjustment of a C-Sonnar lens, individual tests in typical applications with your individual camera body are essential.

    With Best Regards

    Bertram Hönlinger”

    Pretty well as you said. We do agonise over possibilities that rarely if ever occur. As you said so well, it is the real world situations which count.

    Look at Capa’s iconic images of the D Day landings. I believe he used a Contax ii and probably the earlier version of the Sonnar 50. Who cares about perfection.

    I too bought a Sonnar C to put on my Leica M2. On my second roll so haven’t seen the results yet but I’ve been using Zeiss lenses for a very long time so I know I’ll love it.

    Voila, my rambling reply.

    • Reply
      Hamish Gill
      November 22, 2015 at 7:41 pm

      Haha, thanks for the ramble. Do I repeat myself repeat myself do I. I thought I’d worked out most of the repetition. I could write a lot more. I’m not sure how valuable this sort of review is to most people, I just write what is like to read. And my personal preference is definitely for people’s actual thoughts rather than rehashed stuff from elsewhere. Anyway, glad there are at least some people who get something out of it, even if it is repetitious :p

      On sharpness, I just find it odd that it’s so regularly regarded as some sort of ultimate quantifier of quality when there are so many other attributes. I guess it’s just an easy way to judge a lens.

      As for capa and his contax. I actually have a Contax iia with a 50’s Sonnar. It is high on the list of cameras to write about now …

      Keep my posted about your Sonnar experiences, I’ll be interested to hear them!

      • Reply
        jeremy north
        November 22, 2015 at 7:59 pm

        Much appreciated my friend, having to read every paragraph twice kills more time :-)

        I too have the Contax iia and that Sonnar 1.5. I look forward intently to your review. I am as you know a Zeiss junkie.

        The thing I omitted to add to my comment above is that resolution is like CD as opposed to vinyl. The even harmonic distortion of analogue is better to the ear than the digital ‘perfection’ which is unnatural. Uneven harmonics may produce better figures but less easy on the ears.

        • Reply
          Hamish Gill
          November 22, 2015 at 8:01 pm

          … You know I also sell analogue Hifi for a part of my living don’t you … … 😉

          • jeremy north
            November 22, 2015 at 8:24 pm

            Well that is not a surprise. Currently listening to LPs myself. When I say currently, I mean right now as I write.

          • Hamish Gill
            November 22, 2015 at 8:28 pm

            http://thevinyladventure.com/blog/ 😉

          • jeremy north
            November 22, 2015 at 8:34 pm

            A Goldring thing going on there. I loved the 70s for turntables until Linn got the mags on their side, then the bias in reviews went one way only. The whole thing became a mess. Tieffenbrun stole his Linn design from Ariston. As for Naim it was the same story. The whole thing spiralled out of control.

  • Reply
    Sigfrid Lundberg
    November 22, 2015 at 7:37 pm

    I have used this lens almost four years. I’ve had it mounted continously and only changed lens to something else (usually a wide angle one) if it was a necessity. Needless to say I love it møst of the time. Now it spends most of its time in a cupboard replaced by an APO -summicron 50mm f=2.0 Asph (yeah,the expensive one). It wasn’t the focus shift but the chromatic abberation, bluish in colour appearing when I least wanted it. that made me get the new one which is razor sharp but has much less temperament than the Sonnar. My experiences are basically the as yours: It is possible to measure the focus shift, but I never felt that it mattered very much.

    • Reply
      Hamish Gill
      November 22, 2015 at 7:48 pm

      That seems to be the biggest trick of the apo, short of its razor sharpness, it just doesn’t cause CAs – I’ve read that a few times now. Do you shoot more digital then, I guess that is where it comes in really handy…?

      Isn’t it funny how many people are coming out of the woodwork saying the don’t(/didn’t) suffer the focus shift. Every other review I’ve read makes it out to be a real problem. I do think some folks spend to much time testing and not enough actually pointing lenses at actual subject matter…

  • Reply
    Daniel F
    November 22, 2015 at 10:27 pm

    The characteristics of lenses is why my desk is now full of rangefinders. It’s so much nicer to read real reviews of real usage rather than graphs of sharpness and all the new mounts. I thank you for that.
    I got bashed when I went and bought the Summicron 35mm v4, when I for the same amount of money could buy something much sharper. I think, even if completely subjective, I dare to say I have never seen bokeh more pleasing when a little stopped down than from that lens. The lens can be a little soft wide open but it only adds great character. Especially on faces. Pair that with some T-Max 400 and you got fantastic highlights mixed with creamy bokeh.

    I’m on the lookout for a 50mm to be mounted on my M3. This will definitely be on the list.

    • Reply
      Hamish Gill
      November 23, 2015 at 11:21 am

      I really must try the v4 35mm. I had problem with flare with the v3…
      It’s a gem on the M3… It’s a gem on anything… But it’s really nice to use with such an accurate RF!

  • Reply
    Curt
    November 22, 2015 at 10:53 pm

    Thanks so much for for spending time w/ the ZM 50 1.5…a wonderful lens! Your pics define the lens better than any text. I am however confused as to focus shift being an issue on anything other than a range finder. How would focus shift ever be an issue on a Sony a7x? Thanks again…love your style and your blog!

    • Reply
      Hamish Gill
      November 22, 2015 at 11:54 pm

      Thanks very much! Despite the extent of my rambling, it’s good to hear that the images speak for the lens.

      As to your question, it wouldn’t be an issue. You can see the shift if you fix the camera and focus then change aperture, but there is no practical application I can think of where this isn’t solvable just by refocusing.
      Have I implied it is a problem? Sorry for the misunderstanding if I have …?

  • Reply
    Ray
    November 23, 2015 at 11:22 am

    Great thorough review Hamish. You really captured the life of this lens well. And yes, the beast does poke back when you try to keep it at 1.5 – but it is tamable!

    • Reply
      Hamish Gill
      November 23, 2015 at 11:24 am

      Thanks Ray!
      Some of your photos where instrumental in the eventual purchase, so thanks for that! :)

      • Reply
        Ray
        November 23, 2015 at 11:28 am

        Glad those helped – my first go with the lens disappointed me because I didn’t quite understand how to tame it. So glad I went back with it and figured it out. Now it’s responsible for 95% of what I shoot on the M2.

        • Reply
          Hamish Gill
          November 23, 2015 at 11:32 am

          You shot digital with it first did you?

          • Ray
            November 23, 2015 at 11:33 am

            Yes sir, first go was digital. I like it much more on film.

          • Hamish Gill
            November 23, 2015 at 11:50 am

            You sold your ME didn’t you?
            Been half thinking about trying a digital RF again… Not sure what I would get out of it really, but I can’t help being intrigued sometimes…

          • Ray
            November 23, 2015 at 11:55 am

            Yeah, I sold it as the digital look just wasn’t for me any more. Loved using the camera, it was pretty amazing.

  • Reply
    Rasmus
    November 24, 2015 at 8:06 am

    Hamish, thanks for an excellent site – really inspiring to a budding film photographer.

    Like you I’m not too interested in ‘measured quality’ as opposed to subjective quality and thus could be keen to try the Zeiss. I prefer the 35mm focal length though. Any recommendations for a similar look with a shorter lens?

    Thanks,
    Rasmus

    • Reply
      Hamish Gill
      November 24, 2015 at 11:01 pm

      I’d say the closest you are going to get has to be one of the 3 35mm lenses Zeiss offers. Even the 2.8 Biogon which is the one I’m most tempted by exhibits many of the same traits – not least flare resistance and 3D pop… At least that from what I have so far seen of shots taken with it.
      The voigltlander 35mm 1.4 is another fun lens. Also imperfect, but in different ways.

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    Martin
    November 24, 2015 at 10:45 pm

    I’ve been using this lens for several years. It is better, I think, with B&W than color. That said, “Carters Stream Fair” above is a very nice example. The lens certainly poses a challenge to range finder focus technique. In general, it is best is softer light, as you say.

    FWIW, it’s very nice mounted on a Sony Alpha and focused with focus peaking assistance where it exhibits great detail but preserves a strong “filmic” look.

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      Hamish Gill
      November 24, 2015 at 10:49 pm

      I love it with colour. In fact it’s had me shooting a lot more colour than I was I think. Still the winter months are here now, so I shall no doubt be enjoying it with black and white more.
      I must try it more on the Sony

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    Philippe BREYNE
    January 3, 2016 at 2:52 pm

    Hi Hamish,
    I came across your review a few weeks ago ( I am following your blog…). I have the 50 Sonnar since a few months and had mixed feelings about it due to the intricacies of using it at the widest aperture and close range: it worked most of the time but not every time and that was frustrating…
    After reading your review, I started using the lens at f2 instead of f1.5 when needing a wide aperture and the miracle happened for me, the focus is bang on every time with my M9, the 3D pop is still present and it is now permanently attached to my M9 together with a big smile on my face when I use it…
    Many thanks for understanding this lens so well and sharing your experience so clearly…
    Regards,
    Phil

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      Hamish Gill
      January 3, 2016 at 4:12 pm

      Hi Phil,
      That really is good to read!
      It’s all well and good me wittering on with my opinions on this site, but when someone gets something actually positive out of what I’ve written, it really makes my day!
      It’s especially interesting to read that my thoughts are relevant to digital cameras too!
      I hope you continue to be very happy with the lens! If you’d like to share a link to some of your successful shots, please feel free!
      Thanks for getting in touch,
      Hamish

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    Philippe BREYNE
    January 3, 2016 at 7:07 pm

    Thanks Hamish for the opportunity of sharing some of my pictures…

    Here is the link: https://www.flickr.com/photos/teosworld/albums/72157660801191263

    Some of the pictures were taken with a Sony A7Rii and others with a Leica M9, so it’s all digital stuff…

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      Hamish Gill
      January 3, 2016 at 7:13 pm

      Very nice! I really like ‘The Captain’, that’s a great shot!
      Thanks for sharing!

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    John
    February 15, 2016 at 8:24 pm

    That was a lovely read. Thank you.

    • Reply
      Hamish Gill
      February 16, 2016 at 11:08 pm

      Glad you liked it :)

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    Yannick Khong
    March 6, 2016 at 10:24 pm

    This superbly extensive article reminds me why this lens has GOAT status amongst those who really know how to shoot it. While I highly enjoy using the Voigtlander 58 1.4 Nokton on my Nikon, the success of Zeiss of making such a 3d perfect 6 elements fast aperture 50mm is perhaps an ideal not spoken about enough.

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      Hamish Gill
      March 6, 2016 at 10:32 pm

      Hi Yannick, so this is the first post I wanted you to read …
      Of course, you know why it’s not spoken about enough… I mean, why shoot this when you could shoot something “sharp”…? 😉

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    Russell
    March 18, 2016 at 11:48 pm

    Hi Hamish
    I’m looking at moving to 35mm from medium format and have been considering the Leica m2 or m5, can I get your thoughts on these two cameras? Apologies this isn’t related to your post but I’ve already decided on getting the 50mm Sonnar (your review confirmed this too). I’ve used Zeiss in medium format before and love it. Thanks

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      Hamish Gill
      March 19, 2016 at 10:41 am

      Hi Russell, have you already read my M5 and M2 reviews – Feel free to ask any questions on either of those…
      Cheers!
      (the sonnar is the right choice ;))

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        Hamish Gill
        March 19, 2016 at 10:42 am

        have you thought about the m3? – Its great with the sonnar!

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        Martin
        March 19, 2016 at 6:02 pm

        Quick note. If you wear glasses, the M2 is the way to go. If you can compare the cameras, pick the one with the brightest viewfinder. M2 vs M3: if you’re considering adding a 35mm lens, the M2 wins again. With an M3 you’d either need an external viewfinder or one of the 35mm’s with goggles. FWIW, I just had my M6 serviced by Sherri Krauter (viewfinder upgrade) and she told me that the M4 is the most reliable of the classic M’s.

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          Hamish Gill
          March 19, 2016 at 11:23 pm

          Good advice, but if the camera is to be kept for a while, a CLA is a reasonable course of action for these older cameras, and a slightly mucky/hazy VF is no issue to clean

          • Russell
            March 20, 2016 at 12:52 am

            Thank you for the advice guys, for the expense of the Leica’s it will prove invaluable. I will check out those reviews too. Thanks Hamish.

          • martin
            March 20, 2016 at 3:16 am

            If I may post a link – Dante Stella has a useful post on the Leica whole Leica CLA business – in essence, that it gets done far too often, frequently to the detriment of the camera in question. Something of a contrarian, but the notion that a Leica film M shouldn’t need servicing more than once every five years makes sense. One of the virtues of film over digital – of analogue over digital in general, I think – is analogue having more latitude for error (and hence for happy accidents). http://www.dantestella.com/technical/cla.html

          • Hamish Gill
            March 20, 2016 at 7:32 am

            Indeed, but if you find a Leica that has been CLA’d within 5 years, there’s a good chance the seller will know and will be mentioning it as part of the value they are selling it for. It should also be pretty self evident.
            My point is, as I mention in the M2 review, a camera bought with a hazy viewfinder for £300 and then CLA’d for £100 can be as good value as one bought for £400. Especially as you know when and who by the work was done etc.
            Otherwise, I’d agree, there’s no point in getting a CLA done if there isn’t something that actually needs fixing

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    Mahesh
    May 1, 2016 at 11:53 am

    What a brilliant review, I think this is the best I have read so far. And yes I have read a lot many before I bought this lens last year. The sonnar almost is the queen to rule all 50s I think. I tried lux, cron, planar, mitakon, loxia, sony 55…so many on my A7 ii. The only one that made me happy was sonnar which I don’t think I will replace anytime soon.

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      Hamish Gill
      May 2, 2016 at 11:22 am

      Thanks Mahesh, this is exactly how I feel!

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    Bruce Gill
    May 12, 2016 at 5:32 pm

    Hi Hamish. Just wanted to say thanks for this review (and the rest of 35mmc!).

    I’ve FINALLY pushed the button on one of these. Like you, I’ve hovered over the “add to basket” button for ages now. I’ve read and re-read your review, and all the others over and over… It’s only been your realistic approach that made finally give in. I KNOW I love the way this lens renders light but always got put off. So, thank you!

    Funny as I bought the V4 35mm Summicron over the modern ASPH versions because of that creative side of my brain… Yet this ones taken way more persuasion!

    Thanks again boss :)

    • Reply
      Hamish Gill
      May 12, 2016 at 9:25 pm

      Hi Bruce,
      If you’re anything like me, you’ll never look back… and you must be a little like me with such an excellent surname!
      Glad be of service! :)

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        Bruce Gill
        May 12, 2016 at 9:51 pm

        haha. It’s odd as its not a common surname. I found 35mmc whilst looking up the M-A! Great taste must run with the “Gill” name 😉 The Sonnar, film, I’m a graphic designer too. Spooky!

        • Reply
          Hamish Gill
          May 12, 2016 at 9:55 pm

          Scottish forenames too …

          • Bruce Gill
            May 12, 2016 at 10:06 pm

            Oh s@it, i’d not Thought of that. I think my lot were from
            Cornwal…

          • Hamish Gill
            May 12, 2016 at 10:10 pm

            Ah, and here the coincidence ends (as far as I know) … My Dad was from Surrey

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