Leica M9 Review – Rediscovering a Joy in Digital Photography

By Hamish Gill

The Leica M9 was the first full frame digital rangefinder. At the time of its release it was also the smallest full frame digital camera on the market. In fact, it wasn’t until Sony released the A7 series cameras some years later that any other manufacturer came close to building a camera as small with a 24x36mm sensor. To this day, the M9 still has a strong user base and even has a bit of a cult following of people who largely seem to appreciate it for the CCD type sensor that sits at its core.

I didn’t buy mine specifically because it’s small (it was the biggest Leica I owned at the time), or because of the CCD, I bought it because it’s the cheapest full frame digital rangefinder on the used market, and after shooting an Leica M8 for a few months it became very clear to me that ‘full frame’, ‘digital’ and ‘rangefinder’ were four words I really wanted to be able to use when describing a single camera in my collection. What I don’t think I entirely expected was just how much I could get out of a digital camera outside of work.

To give a little more context to what I’m about to write, I should probably also point out that the main thing that’s inspired this review is a decision to sell my Leica M9 to buy the later M typ-262. But I couldn’t let it go before I wrote down my thoughts about it – especially as it’s given me so much enjoyment over the last year or so…

Rediscovering digital

When I bought the Leica M9, it’d been around four years since I’d shot digital with any conviction as part of my hobby. I just became bored of it. The constant upgrades, the over complicated cameras(!!), the low hit rate as a percentage of shot count and the inconsistency in approach to post process. You know the story, it’s the same for a lot of people who broadly consider themselves “film photographers”. We revert to film (or find it as a new medium) as it breaks us out of all of that stuff. The odd thing for me is that as time goes on, I’ve found myself more aware of a stronger convergence of the mediums than I would have expected to find.

My hybrid world

What I suppose I’ve come to realise is that my ideal medium and process is far from a purely analogue one. When I shoot film I scan it to digital, often quite flat, then tweak the files in Lightroom. As such, I’ve never fully embraced what I’d describe as a majority analogue process, and most importantly I’ve never really let go of the stage that involves a period of time on the computer.

What film has more recently provided me with – at least in terms of my post process – is bit of direction in terms of the look of image I’m trying to produce. I know what Portra 400 looks like – or at least what I want it to look like – so when I shoot it and scan it, I have a set end goal in mind.

Disused Office Building

A bit of film discipline in digital shooting

Quite often this isn’t, or at least wasn’t the case when shooting digital. One of my biggest issues with shooting digital used to be the trap that I think a lot of people fall into of not thinking about the end photo until they’re sat in front of the computer. The “shoot now, worry about the photo later” approach.

This lack of intent is something that’s always bothered my about shooting digital, but having shot so much more film relative to the amount of digital I’ve shot over the last 5 years, I’ve unintentionally trained my brain to better think about the result before I pick up the camera, regardless of whether I’m shooting film or digital.

My point is, what I’ve come realise is that there’s a joy to be had in shooting digital if I approach it in a similar way to how I approach shooting film. Though of course, for me to do this, I need a camera that doesn’t get in my way.

My impossible tastes

Unfortunately, as my tastes for simple film cameras have evolved to the point that even small superfluous features annoy me, finding a digital camera that I actually like has become increasingly difficult.

Much to the horror of some Fuji fans, I made this quite clear in my recent X100f review. The Fuji X100 is a camera that’s often held up high as an great example of photographers camera. Users often talk about their wonderfully simple user interface and ease of use. I found the X100f to be quite irritating to use.

The uncomplicated Leica M9

What’s probably quite telling about my relationship with the Leica M9 is that much of my perspective toward the Fuji was probably influenced by my feelings toward the Leica. By comparison, the Fuji X100f is so profoundly bloated with features I didn’t need, I hardly knew where to start when I picked it up.

If there’s one thing you can hardly accuse the M9 of, it’s being bloated with superfluous features. Actually funnily enough, there are still features I don’t use, but thanks to the way it’s designed they don’t get in my way at all – as I will come back to in a mo, there’s so little need to use the menu once a few very basic preferences are set, that it’s impossible for it to intrude on the simple nature of the camera as an manual and aperture priority rangefinder.

Manual and Aperture priority exposure

The first thing to know about the Leica M9 is that it provides both full manual metered exposure and aperture priority. Coming from a Leica M7 then M8, how it works is very easy to understand. In manual, you have a very simple 3 led meter, and in aperture priority it gives you a shutter speed read out.

Aperture priority
Manual exposure

Beyond this basic function, controlling the camera is also wonderfully simple to use. this is easy enough to demonstrate, just be showing you the content of the menus and limited set of controls:

The Leica M9 controls

The limited contents and the way the Leica M9 menu is organised says quite a lot about how this camera is intended to be used. The only thing I use in the main menu is the option right at the top for switching between the lens profiles. Being right at the top, it’s easy to find when I need it too.

Short of setting how the exposure compensation and auto-iso works, I’ve never used the rest of the menu. It’s all superfluous to me, or at very least it’s set-once-and-ignore type stuff.

The set button

The simplicity of the main menu is built upon by the separate “set” button menu. This additional single screen menu means I never have to go digging around in the main menu. Funnily enough, I hardly use any of the functions in the set menu either, but they are the functions the majority of people might need more regularly whilst out shooting.

The buttons

The simple menu is one thing that helps keep functioning the camera simple, but actually in use, it’s the sparse set of controls that helps prevent the Leica M9 from getting in the way for me. The top plate has nothing more than the on/off switch that allows setting single, continuous and self-timer, the shutter button and shutter speed control.

The rest of the primary functions have labelled buttons. No confusion around button customisation here – these buttons have sole and fairly obvious functions.

ISO controls

The most complicated thing about setting the ISO on this camera is having to go into the menu to set your auto-ISO preferences. This is just a case of setting the maximum high ISO and low shutter speed you are happy for it to use. Once set up, the ISO button opens a screen of ISO settings (including Auto) – it does take a moment to work out that you have to hold the ISO button to change the setting, but beyond that, it’s very easy to use.

The info button

The info button amounts to a small but perfectly formed feature for me – press it and it tells you the battery and amount of frames you have left on the memory card. I have pressed that button each and every time I’ve picked up the camera to leave the house with it.

Fiddly exposure compensation

Unfortunately, all is not quite perfect with the interface, though thankfully, the issues I’ve found are far from insurmountable. The single major usability issue I’ve found with the controls themselves is with the way the exposure compensation works. There are a couple of options in the menu, but none of them feel quite perfect. If you want to be able to adjust the exposure compensation with the camera to eye, the best option is to set it so rotating the jog dial changes it. The issue with this is that it’s not that comfortable to do with one hand.

Fortunately, thanks to the easy to understand centre weighted meter, and the ability to lock exposure with a half press, I don’t use exposure compensation that much, but when I want to, I have found the jog dial annoying.

The shit screen

Additionally to the poor control over exposure compensation, the screen on the Leica M9 is basically shit too. Really shit in fact. It’s overly contrasty, and need to be looked at from an angle to get the best idea of how the image will look when you put it on to the computer. It’s also really low resolution, so is piss poor for determining sharpness in taken photos.

But actually, as I will get to when I review my Monochrom, neither of these issues are really that prohibitive for normal use for me. I quickly got used to not relying on the screen for knowing what the photo would actually look like and just used it as an occasional reference for checking composition – though, being a regular film rangefinder shooter, even that isn’t something I bother with too often.

As for screen sharpness, that’s not an issue for normal photography for me either. Rangefinder photography comes with a whole chunk of trust in ones instincts when it comes to focusing. Whilst you do of course have an aid in the viewfinder, unlike an SLR you can’t actually “see” focus. As such using the screen to check just doesn’t really feature in day to day use…

Testing lenses

…that is, of course, apart from the times when you wish to check if a lens is focusing properly. Unfortunately for my relationship with the M9, this has been something I’ve found myself doing with increasing regularity.

A shot from a post about testing and modifying a Jupiter-8 with the M9

If you read this blog often, you will have seen a dramatic increase in me testing and playing with lenses. Processes like determining how well a Jupiter-8 lens is focusing, or indeed testing the reliability/accuracy of the 7Artisans 50mm f/1.1 lens are examples where I found it a right faff when the screen on the back of the camera isn’t good enough. It should be easier to be able inspect focus on a camera rather than having to put the photo onto a computer after each shot is taken – with the M9, it really isn’t.

The gist here is, if you use the screen on the back of your camera a lot – you’re not going to like the Leica M9!

Nonspecific enjoyment

What the above amounts to pretty much the the sum total of functionality the Leica M9 provides. As you can see, if anything, especially compared to most modern digital cameras, the M9 could probably be considered to lacking in functionality. But whilst that might sound like a bad thing, I personally find cameras that are lacking features so much easier to get on with than cameras that offer me too much. As I have mentioned a fair few times on this website now – not least in my post about the Lure of the Uncomplicated Camera – I find limitations appealing, and not a hindrance.

Beers & Cameras at Hanbao

Image quality

Working with the Leica M9, it’s functionality isn’t the only limitation. The fact that it has a now quite elderly CCD sensor at its core also provides limitations, and possibly(?!) advantages too.

Despite a feeling of reluctance to go here, I don’t think a Leica M9 review would be complete without mentioning the CCD. As I alluded to at the beginning of this post, it still seems to be one of the primary reasons Leica M9 users state as a reason to own and shoot with this camera. I actually had a bit of a rant about this in relation to the M8 – you can read that post here.

The gist of my rant is that whilst many people seem very quick to attribute the quality of the images the Leica M8 is capable of to the CCD, very few people seem to know enough (if anything) about the technology to state specifically why it’s the use of a CCD that creates nice files above and beyond anything else in the image making chain. I’m yet to see a convincing answer to the questions I asked in that post, though I have learned one interesting nugget about the CCD in the M9 which I’ll get to in a mo. If you know more about CCD technology, or have any links to interesting resources, please feel free to comment below!

To me, the use of a CCD in the Leica M9 is not something I would specifically seek one out for – I don’t really care about the tech in the camera as long as I like the images it produces. The fact is, one way or another, I’ve really enjoyed working with the Leica M9 images I’ve shot – the colours and tonality of the DNG RAW files definitely have a charm.

Devon with the M9

Out of camera they are quite flat by my tastes, and sometimes fairly murky in lower light. The benefit of this is that they feel easy to work with and somehow seem to come to life with ease in lightroom. They are also undoubtedly of a high quality, even by today’s standards – I’ve found them to have room for manoeuvre where I need it, without just being almost infinitely malleable like the files out of my Sony A7rii (for eg). That being said, it’s definitely worth acknowledging that the Leica M9 is not without its image quality foibles.

Corner/edge performance

All digital Leica rangefinder cameras are unfortunately susceptible to colour shift toward the edges of the frame. This is most often when shooting with wide angle lenses since the angle of light exiting the the rear of the lens is at such a steep angle it’s not compatible with the nature of the digital sensor. Modern Leica lenses come coded in a way that tells the camera how to compensate for this issue. Older and non-Leica lenses don’t. The answer is to either set the camera manually to a lens profile that best compensates, or to use post-process profiles. I quickly learned about this issue when I got back from a holiday just after I bought the camera…

Devon with the M9

Though my very brief tests proved fairly inconclusive, the colour shifting effects of using some wide angle lenses on digital rangefinders is apparently less of an issue when shooting with a Leica M9. I’ve been told that this is specifically because of the design of the CCD sensor.

Slight occasional magenta shift

Colour shift into the corners isn’t the only type of shift that is exhibited by the Leica M9. Given the right (wrong) type of light, I’ve found myself faced with overly magenta shifted skin tones, specifically in people’s lips. This hasn’t been a regular occurrence, but there’s definitely something a little out of whack with the files, especially in low and mixed light.

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Low light

That being said, I have had some really nice results shooting in low light. As I demonstrated here, the low light performance has proved more than adequate. With some tweaking using Lightroom’s camera profile adjustment tool, I managed to get some images I really liked.

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Yes, it’s fair to say that higher ISO images have a fair amount more noise than modern cameras. But for my tastes, and indeed my approach to shooting in lower light, the noise hasn’t really been an issue apart from In especially difficult lighting. For me, it comes back to the limitations the camera and it’s elderly CCD imposes. If you’re looking to shoot in low light, using high ISOs to boost the available light to look almost like daylight, this camera is not going to suit you – you’re much better off with a modern CMOS sensor based camera. On the other hand, if you’re happy with a lower key image that’s more authentic to the lighting in the scene, you might find the M9 to be perfectly adequate.

Short of me repeating myself, you can read more about my thoughts using the even more limited Leica M8 here. In short, working with these older cameras is all about approach and expectations. After all, if you shoot film, your expectations for low light shooting are going to be completely different to those from a modern digital camera – but that doesn’t necessarily mean film can’t be shot in low light. The same rules apply when using the Leica M9 – accept the limitations, embrace them in fact, and good results can be achieved!

Leica sensor replacement

Whilst on the subject of the sensor, it would be remiss not to mention the dreaded sensor corrosion issue the Leica M9 has suffered given age. There’s stack about this online, so I won’t bore you here – search google if you’re interested. The gist, if you fancy buying one of these cameras, look for one that’s had its sensor replaced by Leica. Leica ran a free sensor replacement scheme for a while, but if you want the work done now, it’s about £800(!). If the previous owner doesn’t have a receipt for the work being completed, email Leica – they have record of all the cameras that have had the work done.

Why am I upgrading to the typ 262?

Finally, since I’ve just “upgraded” to the typ 262, it seems I should touch on my thought process behind taking that step. Let me first say, shooting the Leica M9 has been an absolute joy over the last year or so. There really is something quite profoundly enjoyable about shooting a digital camera with so few features. This has actually been one of the main reasons I’ve decided to give the typ 262 a go. Without going into too many details, despite be a generation newer, it has less features than the Leica m typ 240 that superseded the M9. The 240 really has never appealed to me – it’s fat and it’s overweight proportions are telling of its bloated functionality. If there’s one thing I don’t need in a rangefinder camera, it’s video…

The M9 top, typ-262 bottom

The typ 262 harked back to the simplicity of the Leica M9. It too has a very simple menu – in fact it has less pages of options than the M9. It also has a little thumb wheel for changing exposure compensation. I have yet to discover if this completely fixes the minor interface issue for me, though it will undoubtedly be something I come back to when I share my thoughts about the 262. Finally, the 262 also has a stunningly better screen. On the first day I had the camera I used it to tweak the focusing on one of my 7Artisans lenses.

The black paint finish

I should also mention one possibly shallow but nonetheless quite important deciding factor in my thought process to upgrade my Leica M9. That being, I really hate the satin black paint finish – it’s slight brassing just looks shit to me. Though I suspect that within some circles, that alone could be the single most controversial things I’ve said in this review… each to their own, but I much prefer the black chrome look.

Some more photos

Family snaps with the Jupiter-8 Devon with the M9 Connie & Norah Ducks & Boat Char Devon with the M9 Disused Office Building

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If you’ve spent any time reading online about the Leica M9, you’ll find lots of commentary about it still being a viable camera, even today. To my mind, this goes without saying – especially taking into account the cameras that have had their sensor replaced by Leica. When mine had its sensor replaced it was also given a CLA (I suspect this was Leica’s standard approach to the sensor upgrade scheme) – of course this doesn’t mean it’s a new camera – but I’d bet it helps its lifespan. As such, I’d say buying an M9 in 2018 is a fairly safe bet (provided you confirm the sensor has been replaced).

Of course, being an 8 year old design, it goes almost without saying that it falls short of some modern standards. Then screen on the back being the most obvious sign of its age. It really is very poor, and is definitely only vaguely useful for checking composition. And if you’re looking for all the modern conveniences such as live view, video, 4,007 various modes and 63 customisable buttons to control it all, you should probably buy a Sony camera instead.

Even the lauded CCD at its core – whilst capable of some excellent quality output – isn’t exactly cutting edge. It’s quite eccentric to shoot with for a start, and if you’re a low light junky used high ISOs that are clear of noise, again, you’re probably advised to look elsewhere.

Disused Office Building

But really, none of this feels especially relevant when judging the Leica M9. Its beauty is entirety in its simplicity and embracing the limitations it imposes. I don’t suppose for one minute there is a single rangefinder shooter out there that labours an opinion about rangefinder cameras being perfect for every type of photography.

By their nature, rangefinders are limited use cameras, and at least in my world, the best of them provide a simple uncluttered and distraction free approach to photography. In this sense the Leica M9 manages to completely encapsulate what I enjoy about shooting a rangefinder – be that film, or digital. Not once since the day I picked it up for the first time have I felt inhibited by it, if anything I’ve felt empowered by it – it’s even helped me rediscover a genuine joy in digital photography.

I will be sad to see it go. But as someone who doesn’t feel particularly attached to the CCD, I feel like the Leica 262 can just round off the couple of very minor and quite personal issues I have more recently found in using my Leica M9. If it wasn’t for the fact that the 262 was also designed to be a very simple camera, I don’t think I’d have bothered with the “upgrade”.

Ultimately, I can say with some certainty that whilst it’s far from being the best digital camera by the standards of modern dynamic range, high ISO quality and all that guff, the Leica M9 still manages to remain of one of the best digital cameras I’ve shot with!

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By Hamish Gill
I started taking photos at the age of 9. Since then I've taken photos for a hobby, sold cameras for a living, and for a little more than decade I've been a professional photographer and, of course, weekly contributor to 35mmc.
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Josh on Leica M9 Review – Rediscovering a Joy in Digital Photography

Comment posted: 09/07/2022

Everything positive about using a Leica explained in this article can be found on any camera. I see time and time again that Leica users praise the Leica experience... Which is simply removing features until you've whittled down to the "core" photographic experience- undiluted by a myriad of fancy features.

This is a philosophical choice, not a gear requirement. I shoot on my A7c with a Jupiter or Helios lens. Manual everything, save for occasionally auto ISO. I never look at any menus. Any exposure change is at my fingertips. I shoot slow, composing carefully and following the light. Finding the story. I live in the city, story abounds. However, I can swap to my 35/2.8 ZA and flip one dial exactly one tiny turn... And now I have impeccable autofocus, and auto ISO determines my present shutter speed. I can nail any shot any time, even as life races by to the tune of a million people flowing through times square.

Then swap back and slow down. It's my mindset changing, along with my gear. Leica owners need their gear to set their mind. This is very odd to me. Just pick up any camera and choose to be methodical.
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Comment posted: 09/07/2022

I don’t think this comment is unfair, you have a way of shooting that works for you and how you think. But that’s the key here, it’s how you think. My desire for a simplified user experience is a part of how I think and how I react to a camera. This isn’t about right or wrong, it’s just about what works for the individual. I don’t apply this desire for simplicity just to Leica cameras, I also like really simple cheap point and shoot film cameras. It’s just how my brain works.

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Leica M10-P Review - A Brilliantly Underwhelming Digital Rangefinder on Leica M9 Review – Rediscovering a Joy in Digital Photography

Comment posted: 07/07/2020

[…] shutter in Leica digital rangefinders seems to get quieter with each iteration. The M8 and M9 made a bit of a racket, the 240 and 262 were quieter, and though I haven’t used one, the M10 was […]
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Saying goodbye to my Leica M [typ 262] - A Parting Review - 35mmc on Leica M9 Review – Rediscovering a Joy in Digital Photography

Comment posted: 26/03/2019

[…] and then scramble to write about it in the final few days of owning it. It happened with the M8, M9, more recently the M240 and now the M262. Actually, a large part of this is because they don’t […]
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Retiring My Well Worn Leica M240 - By Simon King - 35mmc on Leica M9 Review – Rediscovering a Joy in Digital Photography

Comment posted: 11/03/2019

[…] and was so engaging that I felt I owed it to myself to at least experiment with the M8 and M9 – both legendary cameras as the Leica M240 ought to be. However it was really only the M10 […]
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Bazzer on Leica M9 Review – Rediscovering a Joy in Digital Photography

Comment posted: 02/06/2018

I’ve had my M9 since it was first announced, it gets a lot of use probably more than all my other gear, a lot of brassing but that’s OK with me, my main lens is my 50mm Sonnar, does a fine job, just for the sake of interest I have another old camera I still use that produces great image quality, in fact I have two in case one dies, it has a ccd sensor and a Sonnar zoom, the old but but legendary Sony R1, love it, I had my M9 sensor replacement done for free and it had a good seeing to at the same time, the main one was the rangefinder being recalibrated, they also suggested having a new cover, I had it done.
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jbvoolstra on Leica M9 Review – Rediscovering a Joy in Digital Photography

Comment posted: 31/01/2018

Hi Hamish, Since going digital I never liked the colours, shadows, low light... I tried the Canon 5D Mark II; the Fuji X-E1, X-T1 and X-Pro2. Canon had ugly color rendering. Fuji had paintbrush like results in some situations.
Finally I got myself the Leica ME-220 with a Summicron 35mm ASPH. It is all I have now, and it is all I need. Again and again I fall in love with the photo's it gives me. The colours and blacks are simply awesome perfect. The imperfections are also perfect!
I rented a Leica M10 for a wedding because my ME was being maintanced. It was also impressive, but I missed the unique awesome colors of the CCD sensor. It is the CCD sensor that always will stay superior to CMOS. If someone will give me a M10, I will sell it and buy another M9, or ME as backup.
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Hamish Gill replied:

Comment posted: 31/01/2018

I do miss something about the M9 - but now I've spent some time with the 262, I'm happy with it. Horses for courses I guess... I can see your attraction though

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Alan Logan on Leica M9 Review – Rediscovering a Joy in Digital Photography

Comment posted: 26/01/2018

Hamish, will you be replacing your M9M in the near future for the later CMOS sensor model or holdout for a Monochrom M10 derivative perhaps sometime in the not too distant future?
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Hamish Gill replied:

Comment posted: 26/01/2018

I have a monochrom review coming soon - the short answer is that I am unlikely to replace it

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Malcolm Farrar on Leica M9 Review – Rediscovering a Joy in Digital Photography

Comment posted: 03/01/2018

Great review Hamish.

I loved my M-E for the look of the images, but its simplicity was lovely too. As someone who has shot with an Olympus E1 ( still do occasionally) with its Kodak CCD sensor I recognised the DNA in the images those two cameras produced.

However, I decided to check out the new Leica M10 at my local store and whilst there played with the M262 with screen, the M-D with no screen and the M10 of course. I came out of that store with the M-D minus my M-E.

So those of you who are thinking of the M-D I say you will never be disappointed. As an M2 and MA film shooter too I can add it's as close as you'll get to a film rangefinder experience with all the benefits of digital. The battery life is long.. days on end long... formatting a card is easy on your computer; the exposure meter never over exposes ( unless you're not paying action!) and the colours are rich and beautiful. The sound of the shutter is addictive. No chimping ( my bad habit I could never shake off).

Pay no attention to all the negative 'reviews' out there. The M-D is Leica's best kept secret!

Lovely photos too Hamish... Zeiss 50 sonnar?
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Hamish Gill replied:

Comment posted: 03/01/2018

Yes, mostly - most photos I take are with that Sonnar :) One day, I am certain I'll buy the M-D

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5 Frames with... #70: A Leica M typ 262 - 35mmc on Leica M9 Review – Rediscovering a Joy in Digital Photography

Comment posted: 03/01/2018

[…] did think a 5 Frames post would give me a chance to share a few very early thoughts. If you read my Leica M9 review, you’ll know I was hoping to find that replacing it with the 262 was going to be a […]
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Julian on Leica M9 Review – Rediscovering a Joy in Digital Photography

Comment posted: 02/01/2018

Having only shot film Leicas, I was very tempted to pull the trigger on an M-D 6 months ago... something that combines the simplicity of film/rangefinder shooting but with the image quality of modern digital cameras is very appealing. Watch this space :)
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Hamish Gill replied:

Comment posted: 02/01/2018

GO ON, DOOOOOO IIIIIIIIT! ;)

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Peter on Leica M9 Review – Rediscovering a Joy in Digital Photography

Comment posted: 02/01/2018

I am 100% on board and understanding what you mean by getting bogged down by edits and such with digital. Its what made me sell all my DSLR gear, and head towards the x100s, where I slowly just started shooting all b/w jpgs , to eventually moving to film. While I find with the film stuff is actually getting a bit more attention on the processing side of things, than my straight out of camera jpgs, its the starting point I love. The look the film gives me at the starting point, before edits. ESPECIALLY colour, even some of these photots you posted, to me, just have such a over rendered colour to them I just can't seem to fall in love with...
I often equate it to recording music. If you'll bare with my explanation. Much like film, musicians while recording are often trying to hard to recapture the feel of older recordings, when everything was recorded to tape rather than digitally on computers. There is a vibe and character to tape, that digital just doesnt quite have. There are emulators to make digital files "sound" like tape, in the same way there are things you can do to digital files that make them "look" like film. At the end of the day, to me anyhow, they just kiiiiiind of miss the magic. BUT, much like in the way most peoples film workflow is take film, scan, edit on computer, so too is the way a lot of people record to tape, bring that audio into the computer, and edit digitally. Giving you the starting point with the sound/look you're after, but then the ease and convenience of the digital workflow.
Really, it's all a matter of preference. What method, gets you the end result you want, I don't think matters, persay, as long as you have fun getting there.
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Hamish Gill replied:

Comment posted: 02/01/2018

Broadly, I sort of agree with you - but then what you are seeing here specifically is probably my preference for contrasty colours. To my mind, film and digital both have a look - or indeed sound. I am also into my hifi, and I can tell you for free some of the best sounding music I have listened to on it is digitally produced, mastered, and streamed to my hifi via I system called MQA. Yes it doesnt have the character an analogue system can impose, but does that make it better, worse, or just different? Baring in mind this website is a website largely about film photography - please do know that I am 100% on board with enjoying the look of film, but in this modern world where most of my vinyl is digitally mastered music, my point is really that I can find happiness with either media, provided I enjoy the process and the outcome... which I do with the M9

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Peter replied:

Comment posted: 02/01/2018

I mean it more on the recording side of things than the listening side of things though. The amount of money people I know spend on digital tape-emulator plug ins in Pro Tools or Logic to get analog sounds like Fleetwood Mac's Rumours is insane! Haha. And yea the colour thing is 100% a personal preference. Its why I was only ever shooting b/w in my Fuji.

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Les Murdoch on Leica M9 Review – Rediscovering a Joy in Digital Photography

Comment posted: 02/01/2018

I am now crying salt tears because you have just informed me that I have missed the boat for the free sensor replacement should it be necessary in my Leica M-E, which is just an M9 lite. Having the sensor cleaned and checked for corrosion was one of the many things I was going to get round to and never did. I knew about the replacement programme but not the fact that they had introduced a cut off date. It's a bit pathetic of Leica to admit to a manufacturing fault and then charge £800 for fixing it.
Having said all that, I agree with just about everything you've said about the M9, particularly about how easy the files are to work on. I'm often amazed how easy it is to get a great result with just a few clicks and if you need to fiddle about to get the desired outcome, the files can take it. This is exactly the opposite of my Sigma DP3 Quattro where things rapidly go wrong if too much processing is required.
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Hamish Gill replied:

Comment posted: 02/01/2018

I really must try a Sigma again - I dip my toe once in a while, always enjoy it, but hate the software - I hear they now do massive DNG files that work in LR - that makes me very interested again! Sorry you missed the boat on the sensor deal...

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Dan James on Leica M9 Review – Rediscovering a Joy in Digital Photography

Comment posted: 01/01/2018

Very interesting thoughts Hamish (and I must say good to have a quality in depth post written by you and not a guest post).

I relate to much of your quest for the ideal hybrid(s) between film and digital, and have been on a similar adventure the last year or two.

A Leica M9 is somewhat beyond my budget, but I’ve found a great deal of pleasure from using an old Pentax K10D DSLR (also with CCD sensor!) with vintage M42 and K mount lenses, and more recently Ricoh digital compacts.

Have you tried any of the Ricoh GR Digitals? I have the GRD III and a GX100 (24-72mm zoom equivalent, in effect) and the user interface is fantastic, somehow finding an ideal balance between depth of features and instinctive simplicity in use. Plus they’re very compact and handle very well too.

There’s so much to be said for simplicity in a camera, it seems only Leica these days are really catering for this in the digital market... There must be a huge market the manufacturers are overlooking in packing cameras with ever more features.
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Hamish Gill replied:

Comment posted: 01/01/2018

I have tried one or two of the older Ricohs - I can't remember which, but looking at the spec I think one of them was the Gx100 - I had the accessory viewfinder, I think - but this was in my previous house, so we are . I have been very tempted by the latest versions too - the images out of those things have a really nice look to them. As for the market for simple cameras - this is what I keep saying... did you read my thoughts about the Fuji x100f

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Dan James replied:

Comment posted: 01/01/2018

Yeh I did, I really enjoy these articles where you ponder why a camera does or doesn't work for you, and don't just regurgitate the raw specs like so many blogs do. I've come across a few people in recent months who seem to gaze back with great fondness of the original X100, but have been disappointed with the successors. I guess you can't make a camera to please everyone, but the sales volumes needed to keep the company in business mean they have to try to include as many features as possible to try to please as many people as possible. But sometimes end up pleasing no-one! It's similar in many industries I guess, you do get more individual and pioneering companies but their products end up very niche and very expensive. Like Leica. Kind of ironic that they make some of the simplest cameras, and cost so much. Like that quote, "simplicity, carried to an extreme, becomes elegance" - Jon Franklin. Just thinking about the huge section of people who are maybe a technology resistant anyway, introducing cameras that were highly capable but simple to use would surely be a winner, putting aside professional photographers for a moment. Something as simple as an iPhone (most people basically point it and press a single button) but with a proper camera shape and feel. Re the Ricohs, I have a GR on my wishlist (the later one with the APS-C sensor) but for now I'm very happy with the GRD III and GX100. I can't speak highly enough of the user interface and how it makes it feel like the camera is on your side, working with you. I'm also curious about the GXR range with one camera body then different lens/sensor modules that attach, but haven't tried one yet.

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Hamish Gill replied:

Comment posted: 01/01/2018

I guess it just comes down the the simple need to cater for the biggest audience - you can see why they choose that road. The smaller the market, the higher the unit cost too - the cost of r&d, tooling etc has to be split over the expected unit volume. It just wouldn't be possible to make a more basic camera cheaper... Keep an eye out, there is a GXR review coming soon

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Dan James replied:

Comment posted: 01/01/2018

Oh good, I'll be very interested to hear your impressions of the GXR Hamish. From what I've read from others, and assessing my own needs, the main attraction is having it with the 50mm lens/module to potentially replace my DSLRs. At 24mm and 28mm I'm happy with the GX100 and GRD III.

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Hamish Gill replied:

Comment posted: 01/01/2018

Actually, not my impressions, but the guy who's written them put a lot of time and effort into the review

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Neil Woodman on Leica M9 Review – Rediscovering a Joy in Digital Photography

Comment posted: 01/01/2018

An interesting read. I for one like your film shots most of all with the sonnar (that’s what inspired me) but I get the digital thing with the M9. What’s stopping you from getting the M10? Did you consider getting one?
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Hamish Gill replied:

Comment posted: 01/01/2018

Mostly, cash - well, moreover cash vs. gain - the 262 set me back £2600, I was recently offered a m10 for £5k - double the money for an ISO dial is how I saw it

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Neil replied:

Comment posted: 01/01/2018

Yes...cash rearing it's head again as well it might. I love how thin they've made the M10 but £2600 compared to 5K - one can't argue.

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Adam Bonn on Leica M9 Review – Rediscovering a Joy in Digital Photography

Comment posted: 01/01/2018

That’s a nice ode to the M9 Hamish, thank you (and happy new year)

I recently picked up an M9. Liking it very much, I’m finding that the limits of the sensor work very nicely with the “limits” (sic, I mean compared to my modern digital cameras) of shooting with it.

It’s a bit like a simple car with a lot of mechanical grip and no driver aids - great fun on the right road (please forgive the wonky simile)

I can’t really put my finger on the CCDness... maybe something along the lines of it has clarity slider adjustments built into the native file!! CMOS files sometimes seem soft until you zoom in on them, whereas CCD ones seem to look better at normal viewing distances. (I mean pre-PP)

It’s probably all in my imagination.

I think perhaps the pixel pitch is a good size compared to today’s high mp sensors and that adds to the charm of the images

Anyway, thanks again I enjoyed your article
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Hamish Gill replied:

Comment posted: 01/01/2018

Yeah there are so many CCDness traits that I have read about, but very few quantified. I think youre on to something with your comment about pixel pitch - I've been known to make similar comments comparing the 12mp sony a7s against the 42mp sony a7rii - something looks different, but again, I can't quantify it.

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Evan Bedford on Leica M9 Review – Rediscovering a Joy in Digital Photography

Comment posted: 01/01/2018

Great review, as always. I've never owned an M9, but have had an M8, which put out amazing quality. But for someone with small hands -- like me -- it had all the ergonomic appeal of a wet bar of soap. And no video. So I went to a Sony A7s with m-mount adapter. And the a7s works much better with shift lenses, which I use a fair bit.

But the A7s craps out in cold Canadian weather, so I recently got a Leica M4-P (still keeping the Sony for the warm weather). Much more ergonomically appealing than the M8. In fact, the M4-P has my vote for the best "fondle quotient" when sitting in front of the tv at 6:30 in the morning with a cup of tea. It has an even better FQ than the old Xpan that I used to have, and that's no faint praise!
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Hamish Gill replied:

Comment posted: 01/01/2018

Fondle Quotient - I might steal that! ;) The M4-P is such a great camera - I recently re-bought one after regretting selling mine!

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Colin West on Leica M9 Review – Rediscovering a Joy in Digital Photography

Comment posted: 31/12/2017

Thanks, Hamish, for another interesting post. I thought the issue I have with technology running apparently rampant was just me getting to the "old man shouting at clouds" age. I have similar issues with my Nikon F100; I use it infrequently to the point that I needed to have the manual handy. Now I just leave it on 'autopilot' and shoot.
Other than its expense, have you considered the M-D? I'm really going to try and curtail my GAS, save some money and see if one of those is at all possible in 2018. I just like the thought of a digital that is stripped of all excess.
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Hamish Gill replied:

Comment posted: 31/12/2017

I'm having a little experiment with a Nikon F75, more simple than the F100, but it's still causing me problems I have shot with the Leica M60 - the camera that came before the M-D - I loved it! But for what I used the M9 and now 262 for, having the screen there for that odd time I might want to check my daughter didn't pull a funny face in a photo is nice. That said, pne day, I suspect I will buy an M-D

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Barnaby Nutt on Leica M9 Review – Rediscovering a Joy in Digital Photography

Comment posted: 31/12/2017

Interesting as always, particularly that thoughts about working out how a picture will look once you get home, rather than when standing in front of the scene with your camera.
As you know, I've recently bought the Monochrom version of the M9. This takes this simplicity you describe here a step further both when shooting and in the processing stage. I use it in exactly the same way as my M6. Once out photographing, I have confidence that framing and focus will be exactly as expected and provided that I've dialled in a little (-2/3 stop) of exposure compensation, then the only controls I'll touch all day are the aperture ring and occasionally shutter speed dial. I only ever use the screen for looking at the histogram if the lighting was particularly tricky.
I look forward to more of your thoughts on it.
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Hamish Gill replied:

Comment posted: 31/12/2017

Pretty much my entire Monochrom post is so far based around the idea of intent - it’s why I love it, there’s nothing like shooting it!

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DMR replied:

Comment posted: 31/12/2017

The M9M has a feature (that I wish other cameras did) of showing the RAW histogram, not the JPEG histogram. When you show the histogram of an image on the screen (if you shoot DNG JPEG), it will immediately show the JPEG, and then after a short period, it will ‘update’ and show the histogram for the DNG file.

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Hamish Gill replied:

Comment posted: 31/12/2017

Indeed, I will come to this in my M9M review

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Nigel Roberson on Leica M9 Review – Rediscovering a Joy in Digital Photography

Comment posted: 31/12/2017

I will stick with my M9P and the MM. Both had new second generation sensors fitted by Leica. At that same time I sent my 6 Leica lenses to Leica. They focus matched all lenses to the bodies so I now have perfect focus which as you know is the holy grail of the rangefinder. My M4P went at the same time for a complete overhaul and some new parts. I love my Leicas.
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Hamish Gill replied:

Comment posted: 31/12/2017

Is there supposed to be any advantage/disadvantage of the newer sensors?

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Nigel Roberson replied:

Comment posted: 31/12/2017

As I understand it the early replacements were same for same. There was then a revised sensor that had the defect possibility completely removed.

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DMR replied:

Comment posted: 31/12/2017

The sensor is the same sensor. And the sensor was not the cause of the problem. It is my understanding that the IR filter placed in front of the lens to solve the IR issues from the Leica M8 were the cause of the corrosive spots. The 2nd generation sensor replacements were/are supposed to fix the cause of the issue permantly - time will tell. I just got my M9 and M9M back from Leica in the last week.

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Adam Bonn replied:

Comment posted: 31/12/2017

From what I’ve read in forums (so.....) The very first sensor swaps were like for like The second were new cover glass on the old sensor The final was a whole new sensor, but with thicker cover glass and a different CFA and made by ON Semiconductor (rationale seems to be that the different CFA is because of the supplier change away from Kodak)

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