KW Reflex Box Camera History & Review – By Dan Cuny

By Dan Cuny

The KW Reflex-Box camera doesn’t have the rarity or notoriety as Hasselblad or Leica. However, it’s a fun example of a mix between a reflex and a box camera that never caught on. It never reached the sales to justify keeping this type in the line up of the camera company.

Company History.

The KW Reflex Box camera was manufactured by Kamera-Werkstätten Guthe & Thorsch, in Dresden, Germany. KW is what they are mainly known. The company was started by Paul Guthe and Benno Thorsch in 1919, just after WWI, where they focused on making cameras and associated photo products. Germany has always been a top-rated camera and optical manufacturing country, but Dresden seemed to have the majority, with Ihagee, Pentacon, Zeiss Ikon, Altissa, and several others.

The story of Paul Guthe and Benno Thorsch is an exciting tale. Before WWII, Benno Thorsch wanted to immigrate to the United States and placed an advertisement to that effect in Dresden. Charles Nobel, who ran a successful film processing business in Detroit, MI, answered the ad while visiting Dresden. They both agreed to exchange their interest in their respective companies. Benno Thorsch moved to the Detroit Area. Charles Nobel moved to Dresden in 1938, where he rebuilt the factory in southern Dresden and renamed the company Kamera-Werkstätten AG, Dresden-Niedersedlitz.

They were able to keep manufacturing through WWII, but in 1945, Charles Nobel and his son were arrested on unsupported spy charges by the Soviet occupying army. The factory was nationalized and became Pentacon VEB organization. Both men spent time in labor camps until their release in 1952, and his son in 1955. Both returned to the US, but after Germany’s reunification in 1990, the Noble family reclaimed their home and factory in Dresden.

About the KW Reflex Box

The KW Reflex Box gives you 8, 6×9 format exposures on 120 roll film. There is a light-tight chimney that pops up on the top to view the ground glass, which also allows for focusing and composing the photo.

On top of the camera is a spirit level, the film advance knob, and three shutter speeds. The speeds are 1/100, 1/50, & 1/25, along with “B” for time exposure. They are changed when you depress the button and slide the lever to the desired speed. The shutter release is the same lever for adjusting the shutter settings to “B” or “T.” Instead of sliding it to the desired function, you depress it to fire the shutter. There is an opening next to the “T” setting for a cable release, but I don’t see a threaded area. When I depressed it with a pencil, it did fire the shutter.

On the front of the KW Reflex Box is the Steinheil Wunchen Actinar 10.5cm f4.5 lens, which focuses from 5′ to infinity. Above the lens is a sliding bar that sets the aperture from f4.5-16. To focus the image, you look through the chimney on the top of the camera, but since the lens stops down manually, you should keep the lens wide open for the brightest viewing for focus, then stop down to the desired aperture before shooting.

On the right side of the KW Reflex Box is the reflex mirror cocking arm, which also cocks the shutter. You press the lever down, and the mirror comes down for viewing and focusing. The handle is also on the right side of the camera. There is a tripod socket on the bottom and two red windows on the back to see the numbers advance. You’ll need to go two numbers to get to the next frame since you’re shooting 6x9cm.

Photos from the Camera.

When I received the KW Reflex Box, there was a roll of film inside. I always enjoy it when this happens as I get the opportunity to see what the previous owner photographed. When I processed the film, there was one fair image on the roll.

Image found in the camera.

To see how this camera performs, I shot a roll of film through it as well. I’ve included some of the pictures in the post.

A portrait of my daughter with her dog, Duke.
Be sure to wind two frames. I forgot!!!!

In conclusion, the camera is fun to shoot with, but also one you need to slow down and think about a few things before shooting. To me, this is one of the things I like. Is the lens stopped down after focusing?, Is the camera level? Did I wind two numbers? I hope you try and find one and shot with it when you do.

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About The Author

By Dan Cuny
A little background on me, and my interest in anything photographic. I’ll begin to add posts on my collection, my interests, and items in my collection. I can still remember the day that my uncle gave me my first camera when I was 9 years old. It was a Univex twin lens camera and I was mesmerized looking down through the waist level finder. Everything was backward, but my brain quickly figured out left was right, and right was left. I took that camera on a vacation to Alaska shooting 620 film and still have the negatives and photos. Fast forward a few years to when I’m 16. I find myself in the front row at concerts like Traffic, Humble Pie, David Bowie, Led Zeppelin, Queen, and all the classic bands of the ’70s. My 3 friends and I went to see bands at least a couple times a month and where I first was published in Rolling Stone, Musician Magazine, Guitar Player, and other publications. In later years, we published a blog on the shows we saw and also have images on my website. I’m in the process of writing a book on my experiences and images from this time period. My passion for all things cameras and photographic started when I turned 18 and started working at the local camera store. Having worked there for almost 20 years, I sold all the classic cameras of the 1970s and ’80s like Canon AE-1, Nikon F, Minolta SRT, Pentax Spotmatic, Topcon Super D, and many large and medium format cameras. To this day, I can tell these camera cameras even from the outline they have. This is where I started to collect anything photographic, but the true passion is for cameras and lenses. I’ve had a great career in the photo industry which has lead in many different directions, from Professional Photo Lab Manager to PrePress and high-end scanner sales to repping for Sinar and Broncolor, to Leaf Digital back representative, and onto the most recent where I was the Profoto Rep for the US, West Coast for almost 15 years. During these times, I’ve had the opportunity to travel where I always found some time to seek out cameras or photo items in the town I’ve traveled to. I’ve also had the opportunity to meet and work with some fascinating photographers over my career. From Mary Ellen Mark, Jim Marshall, Dan Winters, Annie Leibovitz, and many, many others.
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James T on KW Reflex Box Camera History & Review – By Dan Cuny

Comment posted: 03/10/2020

Interesting piece of kit.
If there are two red windows, there must at some time have been a 6×4.5 mask to allow 16 frames per film. The oldest 645 cameras pre-date the third row of numbers on the backing paper, so you would use the 6×9 numbers in alternate windows.
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Kurt Ingham on KW Reflex Box Camera History & Review – By Dan Cuny

Comment posted: 03/10/2020

Great subject! Thanks especially for including images made with it.
You might have mentioned that when you release the shutter it feels/sounds like a freight train passing by.
I wonder how it fit in the market pricewise-what else could you have bought at the time for the same money?
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Ken Rowin on KW Reflex Box Camera History & Review – By Dan Cuny

Comment posted: 03/10/2020

Interesting story. It certainly seems like Mr. Thorsch got the better deal. In retrospect, one can only wonder what possessed Mr. Nobel to move to Germany in 1938?
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Dan Cuny replied:

Comment posted: 03/10/2020

I wondered the same. Thank you for your comment.

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Sergio Palazzi on KW Reflex Box Camera History & Review – By Dan Cuny

Comment posted: 04/10/2020

Nice camera, a dead end track in evolutionary lines of an innovative company. More or less, the great aunt of Pentacon Six. I'm looking at your Actinar lens, they were probably produced in some quantity for not-so-low level cameras but are quite uncommon to see, now. I have one of them in fairly good conditions on a bellows 9x12 and, the few times I used it, it gives reasonably good pictures: not the best resolution but an acceptable contrast. This one looks foggy, do you think it is possible to clean it to improve quality, to get the best from the reflex focusing and framing?
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Scott Gitlin on KW Reflex Box Camera History & Review – By Dan Cuny

Comment posted: 04/10/2020

I guess you could consider this the Cadillac of "box" cameras. The best part is you can still use it!
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Bernhard on KW Reflex Box Camera History & Review – By Dan Cuny

Comment posted: 07/10/2020

Hi,

i am more interested to adapt the lense of such a camera to modern digital cameras. It is my hobby.

Best regards
Bernhard
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