A Journey into Darkness and Light, B&W Film Stocks, Part 2

By Scott Ferguson

First, many thanks to all for the collective wisdom and inspiration from the 35mmc community coming out of part 1 of this informal survey of b&w film.  What started as a a friendly chat with Hamish about which black & white stock to buy in bulk before the tariffs kick in has become a bit of a fun jump down a rabbit hole to try out a wide range of the more readily available b&w stocks to learn the qualities, virtues and shortcomings of the different brands & emulsions.  Far from settling on a single ‘go to’ film stock, I’ve been enjoying almost all of them!  I’m also having fun shooting in a new environment back on the East Coast and being home with my family, including Nico, our Cavalier King Charles.

NICO, Hasselblad 500 CM with 645 back, Zeiss Planar f2.8, Rollei Ortho 25 Plus

I have to say I’ve been really impressed with the Rollei films on this journey through the photography store’s refrigerators.  Rollei Ortho 25 Plus is, to me, a great looking stock with very fine grain and nice contrast and a ‘classic’ feel.  With an ISO of 25, it’s  definitely not an every day choice, but I really like it when there’s enough light, especially when you can shoot handheld, like the portrait of Nico, as well as this one of a magnolia tree blossom in our garden.

MAGNOLIA, Hasselblad 500CM with 645 back, Zeiss Planar 80mm f2.8, Rollei Ortho 25 Plus

Ortho 25 Plus would be like a great option for a bright sunny day, or when you can shoot on sticks, like landscapes or perhaps an outdoor sculpture.  I am finding that my new passion for still photography is taking me to places that I’ve never been to before in an ongoing quest for interesting things to shoot, such as the Donald Kendall Sculpture Garden at the Pepsi headquarters in Purchase, NY.

THREE PEOPLE ON FOUR BENCHES, George Segal, Hasselblad 500 CM with 645 back, Zeiss Planar 80mm f2.8, Rollei Ortho 25

George Segal’s Three People on Four Benches were patient while I swapped out film backs on the Hasselblad to see how different film emulsions performed.  On a side note, with its interchangeable film backs, the Hasselblad is a brilliant camera for testing out how different films perform.  Swapping from the 645 back with Ortho 25 to a 6×6 back loaded with Agfa Copex Rapid 50 creates a dramatically different feel with the same subject in identical lighting.  The green shades of the lawn and trees are going almost full black and it has generally darker shadows and higher contrast.

Hasselblad 500CM, Zeiss Planar 80mm f2.8, Agfa Copex Rapid 50

Agfa Copex Rapid, only available in 120 as far as I can tell, has personality to spare.  For me it feels like it’s more ‘expressionistic’ than many of the more conventional stocks I’ve tried.  I definitely think it could be fun to use Copex Rapid for the right project.

SHEEP PIECE, Henry Moore Hasselblad 500CM, Zeiss Planar 80mm f2.8, Agfa Copex Rapid 50

This Henry Moore installation has a dramatically different look and feel when I switch film backs.  On Agfa Copex Rapid, I’m getting a bit of a David Lynch or ‘Alien’ movie vibe, a sense of pulsating menace, like the larger biomorphic mass might devour or absorb the smaller one.  Whereas on Delta 400, taken moments later in exactly the same conditions, I’m feeling a sense of calm, like a mother nuzzling her child.  When I looked up the title of this installation, “Sheep Piece” I decided the latter was closer to Henry Moore’s intention.

Hasselblad 500CM, Zeiss Planar 80mm f2.8, llford Delta 400

Even the grass feels more relaxed on Delta 400, like I’d have a nice dream if I lay down on the beautiful lawn and fell asleep, in contrast with the darker visions that might come if I fell asleep in an Agfa Copex Rapid world.

KIOSQUE L’EVIDE, Jean Dubuffet, Hasselblad 550CM, Zeiss Planar 80mm f2.8, Ilford Delta 400

I think Delta 400 is very impressive and really like its look for a 400 ISO b&w stock.

DOUBLE OVAL, Henry Moore Hasselblad 500 CM, Zeiss Planar 80mm f2.8, Ilford Delta 400

I also tried out Rollei RPX 400 at the Kendall Sculpture Garden.  I think it’s a good option and is currently a little less $ than Delta 400 so might be worth a look for a good balance of quality and budget.

MERIDIAN, Barbara Hepworth, Hasselblad 500CM, Zeiss Planar 80mm f2.8, Rollei 400 RPX

There was an intermittent drizzle that day and I learned that a Hasselblad is not the most user-friendly camera in the rain.   Trying to keep everything dry while swapping backs was a chore, but even more problematic was that the waist level finder is prone to taking on water and became more or less unusable as water started to seep into the tiny grooves on the underside of the acute matte focusing screen and making it impossible see through.  So that day ended early, but not without getting a few photos for my trouble.  I ended up disassembling the Hasselblad and the various film backs to let everything dry out overnight.  Next time I want to shoot on a rainy day, I’ll probably either use the prism finder, or more likely the Leica M3 — if they could survive the jungles of Vietnam they should be able to deal with a little rain in NYC.

On that note, I also tried some street shooting on RPX 400 one afternoon walking down Fifth Avenue in NYC with the Leica.

ATLAS, Lee Lawrie & Rene Chamberlain, Leica M3, Leitz Summicron 50mm f2, Dual Range, Rollei RPX 400

On 35mm I notice the grain a little, but feels like it’s in the same general ‘zip code’ as HP5 and Tri-X.

FLAGS ON FIFTH, Leica M3, Leitz Summicron 50mm f2 Dual Range Rollei RPX 400

As I went deeper down the rabbit hole, I began trying out more and more stocks to expand my search.  I tried a roll of Kodak TMax 400 on the Leica.

LOWE LIBRARY, Leica M3, Leitz Summicron 50mm f2, Dual Range, Kodak Tmax 400

I like the level of contrast and to my eye, it has pretty fine grain for a 400 ISO 35mm film.

PARK SLOPE STROLLERS, Leica M3, Leitz Summicron 50mm f2, Dual Range, Kodak Tmax 400

TMax 400 feels super solid and reliable and capable of very nice results.

TULIP, Leica M3, Leitz 50mm Summicron 50mm f2 Dual Range in close focus mode, Kodak TMax 400

Another spot I’ve ‘discovered’ with my cameras is Untermyer Garden, a lovely gem of a public park that was gifted to the City of Yonkers by Samuel Untermyer, an early 20th century lawyer who advocated for corporate reform, regulation of the stock market and other Progressive goals while managing to do very well for himself.  On this evening I wasn’t the only person there taking photos, but probably the only one shooting medium format film, in this case Ilford FP4.

GRECIAN FOLLY WITH CHILDREN, Hasselblad 500CM, Zeiss Planar f2.8, Ilford FP4

With its classical Greek and Persian elements, Untermyer’s Walled Garden feels a bit like a ‘folly’, ornamental faux ruins that wealthy English and French aristocrats built in the 18th and 19th century to give interest to the landscapes of their sprawling estates.

ASWIRL, Hasselblad 500CM, Zeiss Planar f2.8, Ilford FP4
PERSIAN COLUMNS, Hasselblad 500CM, Zeiss Planar f2.8, Ilford FP4

I also tried some Rollei Retro 400S.

Hasselblad 500CM, Zeiss Planar 80mm, f2.8, Rollei Retro 400S

While I was there, I met a very nice professional photographer who was shooting a young woman celebrating her Quincenaera.  He loved that I had a Hasselblad and we compared notes a couple of times and I grabbed a shot or two of them commemorating an important rite of passage with an appropriate amount of fanfare.

PROCESSION, Hasselblad 500CM, Zeiss Planar 80mm, f2.8, Rollei Retro 400S

A very different, but favorite area to photowalk is Red Hook, Brooklyn and its somewhat decayed industrial waterfront including the Grain Terminal (seen in part 1 shot on another day from another angle and in a recent “One Shot” story of David Pauley’s).  Here I’m shooting it on Rollei 200 Superpan.

REDHOOK GRAIN TERMINAL, Hasselblad 500CM, Zeiss Planar 80mm f 2.8, Rollei Superpan 200

A friendly dockworker was interested in the Hasselblad and struck an interesting pose for me.

RED HOOK DOCK WORKER, Hasselblad 500 CM, Zeiss Planar 80mm, F2.8, Rollei Superpan 200

One of our ‘go to’ family outings is the Rockefeller Preserve, and Blue Hill at Stone Barns, a food foundation and high end restaurant on the site of the Rockefeller family’s former dairy farm that supplied their estate nearby.  I’ve been taking photos there for a few years and in many different weather conditions.  It’s always a lovely outing, seen here on Rollei Superpan 200.

ROCKEFELLER PRESERVE, Hasselblad 500CM, Zeiss 80mm Planar f.28, Rollei Superpan 200

I also tried out an older roll of Ilford Delta 3200 at the Rockefeller preserve, which had an interesting slightly faded look.  One possible wild card with that particular roll of 3200 is that it went to Canada and back in an airplane, so there might be some light fogging issues due to going through security X-ray machines.

Hasselblad 500CM, Zeiss Planar f2.8, Ilford Delta 3200

But I kind of like the mood and look of it.  These shots feel almost like something you might see in a 1930’s John Ford movie.

Hasselblad 500CM, Zeiss Planar f2.8, Ilford Delta 3200

Another single roll I had in the fridge was Ilford Ortho Plus.  Hamish encouraged me to try out Ortho, so I loaded it one day when I went out to the Rockefeller Preserve.

Hasselblad 500CM, Zeiss Planar f2.8, Ilford Ortho Plus

I was blown away by the results of that roll.  While I still have to learn the technical aspects of Ortho emulsions, I’ve really liked the results on both Rollei and Ilford and definitely want to shoot more.  This roll of Ortho Plus scores high on so many fronts for me — really nice detail and grain structure, great contrast, and enough personality to make things interesting but not overwhelming.

DAIRY COW, Hasselblad 500CM, Zeiss Planar f2.8, Ilford Ortho Plus

I’ll also credit the environment on that day.  The Rockefeller preserve itself has a lot of personality in the winter months, including some very “Tolkien” looking trees.

TREE, Hasselblad 500CM, Zeiss Planar f2.8, Ilford Ortho Plus

These shots feel like they could have been taken any time between 1925 and 2025, but still with terrific detail.

FOUR TREES, Hasselblad 500CM, Zeiss Planar f2.8, Ilford Ortho Plus

That’s it for Part 2.  I look forward to the ongoing conversation with the 35mmc community to see what you think!   And, yes, I hope one day to ‘level up’ to doing my own processing, but in the interim at least I’ve settled on a lab I like (Photo Life, in Brooklyn, which offers very competitive prices and turns around consistent results overnight, if not same day.). Stay tuned for Part 3 next month!

The cover image for this post, a somewhat murky self-portrait reflected on Arnaldo Pomadoro’s GRANDE DISCO 1 at the Donald Kendall Sculpture Garden, was taken on Ilford Delta 400 just as the rain became a little too heavy for the Hasselblad’s viewfinder.

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By Scott Ferguson
Scott Ferguson is an independent film and television producer known for such films as Brokeback Mountain, Only Lovers Left Alive and The People vs. Larry Flynt, and the television shows The Night Of and Succession. While working around cameras and recorded images for his entire career, shooting still photography with vintage all manual cameras is a new and very stimulating passion.
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Ibraar Hussain on A Journey into Darkness and Light, B&W Film Stocks, Part 2

Comment posted: 14/06/2025

What an interesting and surprising comparison with some lovely compositions and use of form and light
It’s amazing how a different stock and speed results in a totally different look and feel -
Knowing this means it’s easier to then decide on a film stock and format for whatever the location, subject, lighting is that day.

I was impressed with Delta 3200, it has a bleak yet moody look

Have you tried Kodak Double X ? That’s very nice indeed
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Scott Ferguson replied:

Comment posted: 14/06/2025

Hi Ibraar! Thanks so much for the kind words! It was really interesting to try out all of these different film stocks, espcially when the differences between them are dramatic, like Agfa Copex vs. Rollei Ortho 25 and Delta 400, or Delta 3200 vs. ilford Ortho Plus. I also felt like my ability to 'think' in b&w while composing and shooting has improved because of embarking on this project, so it's been a win win both in terms of learning about different film choices and improving as a shooter. I've shot Cinestill XX which I like, but haven't a Kodak branded still film option for XX in either 35mm or 120 film. I'm excited to try out what I've been learning in this survey on both 35mm and medium format going forward!

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Timothy Hancock on A Journey into Darkness and Light, B&W Film Stocks, Part 2

Comment posted: 14/06/2025

Great read Scott thanks - do you print all your negatives to do the comparisons or scan and view on screen? There are so many variables in photographic comparisons!
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Scott Ferguson replied:

Comment posted: 14/06/2025

Hey Timothy, Thanks. Most of what I do is from scans that come from a lab (Photo Life in Brooklyn, a very reasonably priced and user-friendly lab) and I look at things and make mostly minor adjustments to fine tune exposure in Lightroom. I mostly share my photos via onscreen formats, like Instagram & FB, or via email, or here on 35mmc. I don't bother getting prints from the lab as they just accumulate in a shoe box; I only print something if I want to give a gift or for the finite amount of things I can fit on the walls of our house. Yes, I realize there are a lot of variables, and I was seeing that in my early days up in Canada when I was struggling with vintage cameras that needed service and trying different labs with different levels of sophistication and quality control. But now that I've settled on a stable workflow (at least until I try home processing) I feel like I'm getting a 'flavor' for how different stocks perform -- XP2 has a certain look that is different from the Delta stocks or HP5 or Tri-X or TMax that feels consistent across multiple rolls and between 35mm and 120. I'm not at the place in my development as a photographer where I have the knowledge, equipment and skills to do a more serious scientific evaluation of things like film stocks or the different lenses and filters I like to use. I've only been shooting film for about a year, and my focus has been on learning to shoot better. But I like learning from people who have those skills! Best, s

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Keith Drysdale on A Journey into Darkness and Light, B&W Film Stocks, Part 2

Comment posted: 14/06/2025

Part 1 and 2 were both great to read and I have had a similar journey trying out different B&W films. I love the different look you get with each stock.
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Scott Ferguson replied:

Comment posted: 14/06/2025

Thanks Keith, This has been really fun! In doing this, I think I may have gone from a color film shooter who likes to try b&w to a b&w shooter who likes to try color. Curious if you have learned anything that is dramatically different or stocks I haven't tried. (Part 3 will cover TMax 100, Rollei Infrared, SFX200, Fomapan and Kentmere, and Part 4 will cover Delta and TMax 3200, and a variety of 400 ISO stocks pushed to 1600 to see what works best under those conditions.)

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Keith Drysdale replied:

Comment posted: 14/06/2025

I am definitely a fan of Ilford films and also the Kentmere 100 and 400. I have yet to try the new Kentmere 200. I once pushed HP5+ to 1600 and loved the result. If you are tempted to look at Lomography films do your research - I just bought a 3-Pack of Lady Grey and found out I had just paid a premium for what is actually Fomapan 400.

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Scott Ferguson replied:

Comment posted: 14/06/2025

I loved Kentmere 400 and thought 100 was totally solid. I'll see if I can grab some 200, maybe in time to squeeze it into Part 3! I've been pretty happy with my experiments pushing 400 ISO to 1600 across most to the films I've tried. Other than Lomo Berlin, which was a bummer because I ran across some cool scenes when it was loading into the Leica and I would have gotten better shots with a better film stock -- part of the danger of shooting these tests out in the world -- but I wouldn't know what to do with the information I got back from shooting focus charts and the like and trying to get micro about grain structure and sharpness. It works for me to do it by what I get back in shooting in the kinds of situations I will end up shooting in when I'm not doing a test. See you on Part 3, but I also have a couple of other quicker posts coming up in the interim. Thanks!

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Art Meripol on A Journey into Darkness and Light, B&W Film Stocks, Part 2

Comment posted: 14/06/2025

thanks for doing the hard work discovering different stocks for me. I'm really interested in trying the Rollei 25 and the Ortho now. You're story is going to be expensive!
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Scott Ferguson replied:

Comment posted: 14/06/2025

Thanks Art! Yes, those Ortho stocks look really nice to me, and very different. The Rollei has such lovely fine grain and deep blacks and feels kind of velvety smooth, while the Ilford Ortho looks so crisp, and detailed, but with a bit more edge -- but both have a very pleasing 'classic film' feel as opposed to feeling modern and digital. I would like to have a bit better understanding of the Ortho chemistry and what it means in various situations, but I am really looking forward to shooting more of both of them!

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Jeffery Luhn on A Journey into Darkness and Light, B&W Film Stocks, Part 2

Comment posted: 14/06/2025

Scott,
You are doing great work in your deep dive into B&W still photography! Maybe you'll do a film in B&W soon? All of the film stocks you're shooting are yielding good results... mostly because of your good eye. I tried Agfa Copex Rapid 50 once and wrote it off as a film with an unpredictable gray scale. Probably because it underexposed greens, which is where I like the best midtones on other stocks. It's good that you're using one dependable lab for processing to get realistic comparisons. I give various film stocks to my college students and they come up with both brilliant and awful results because of processing and printing variations. In that wild context, HP5 in HC-110 1:31 has risen to the top as a combination that performs well even when abused. Please continue your testing, writing, and shooting. I'm really enjoying your posts!
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Scott Ferguson replied:

Comment posted: 14/06/2025

Hey Jeffery, I'd love to shoot a film in b&w, but it's not easy in the current distribution system. Some good friends of mine (Steve Zaillian and Robert Elswit) shot "Ripley" an amazing Netflix limited series in b&w and it's one of the best looking things I've seen in years and I think raised the bar on photography in television/streaming. My early days of shooting up in Canada were pretty tough due to processing at different places and ultimately a friend's home lab along with equipment that needed service. But I think another major factor, possibly the biggest, has been learning to "see" in b&w while compsosing, and I think I've learned more about that in doing this series over the last couple of months than I did in the prior 9-10 months combined.

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Gary Smith on A Journey into Darkness and Light, B&W Film Stocks, Part 2

Comment posted: 14/06/2025

Great set of comparisons Scott!
I was sorry not to see any Fomapan 100 above (as I have 48 sheets of it waiting to go in the soup).
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Scott Ferguson replied:

Comment posted: 14/06/2025

Hey Gary, I will hit Fomapan 400 and 200 in part 3. Being honest, 400 was a bit of a downer, and 200 was a mixed bag -- looked a bit meh on a cloudy day, and pretty great on a bright sunny day. I didn't come across 100, so I'm not sure I'll get to it during this survey, maybe some day down the line....

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Gary Smith replied:

Comment posted: 14/06/2025

Being completely inexperienced with the 4 x 5 field camera, I went with the least expensive per sheet I could find and that turned out to be Fomapan 100. I did learn that it doesn't like the Df-96 monobath that had worked just fine for me on Tri-X and HP5+. I just mixed up a gallon of Kodak Professional Fixer to go with the gallon of D-76 I mixed yesterday. If the stars align properly, I may have my own opinion of Fomapan 100 4 x 5 sheet film before your part 3 arrives. Thanks for your reply!

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David Hume on A Journey into Darkness and Light, B&W Film Stocks, Part 2

Comment posted: 14/06/2025

I think this is a lovely piece thank you Scott. As someone whose B+W methodology is, "if it's 135 - HP5 and be there. 120? same but TriX" it's nice to get this thoughtful perspective, and examples of the same subjects with different stocks.

I liked your thoughts on the moods of each film too. Very nicely done; sharing the experience of discovery without being proscriptive or preachy.

I did not see part one, but I'll go and have a look. As an aside, I think getting all the processing done by a lab is a good benchmark for this sort of comparison. It does seem that people who get in to this can get a bit, "pulled half a stop and stand-developed in Rodinol 1:18 on the night of a full moon," about it all. The article reminded me of my grandfather, a cinematographer, who'd just bulk-load Plus X (I think it was) because that's what he had. End of story. And then when I went to TAFE and did a photography course we were just given a bunch of HP5 and away we went. "Negative is the Score," and all that.

Cheers, David.
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David Pauley on A Journey into Darkness and Light, B&W Film Stocks, Part 2

Comment posted: 15/06/2025

Hi Scott, this is a truly inspiring piece and series -- and your photographs are wonderful! For black and white work I have been mostly an HP5/FP4 and Tri-X shooter; I did try Ortho 80 Pan once but got nothing like your lovely results. Perhaps less than stellar metering was the culprit, or -- just as likely -- some mishap in the darkroom. Your article - and the previous installment which I somehow missed and will now look forward to reading, are encouraging me to step outside of my comfort zone and play with some less familiar emulsions. I liked all of the photos in this piece but for me the two standouts were your featured image/self-portrait and the Grecian Folly with Children. Thanks for this outstanding article; looking forward to reading part I.
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