Lux Senior and Junior pictured side by side
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Godox Getting in the Retro Game with the New Lux Junior & Senior Flashes

July 18, 2022

Godox has released two retro-looking on-camera flashes which can be used with both film and digital cameras. The portable vintage silver and black designs are a nod from the lighting equipment company to a time gone past, one that is often looked back at with nostalgic longing.

Of course, we know that this time is not past, but rather being strongly adapted into the present. Film photography popularity has picked up in the mainstream in recent years. There is also the surge forward with mirrorless digital in the new camera market. Godox has created something that fits well with these directions consumers are looking towards.

Godox Lux Junior flash pictured over letter graphics saying keep it simple

Image courtesy of Godox.

Lux Senior flash pictured on an overlay of an image of a woman using the camera

Image courtesy of TTArtisan

Easy Mode and Hard Mode

The flashes are very simple and only have two modes of operation, A and M. A is easy mode and M is hard mode as Godox describes it on their product page. It is similar to auto mode for your camera. The Godox flashes can be put in A mode leaving photographers to focus on taking pictures rather than adjusting settings manually. On the flip side, M mode allows users to be in total control and adjust the settings to what they prefer.

Both the Lux Junior and Lux Senior have 7 levels of flash power, going from 1/1 to 1/64. They also have optical control settings, a sync port, and fixed value focal length of 28mm.

One difference between the two, aside from size and design, is the battery. The Lux Junior is powered by an AAA alkaline battery and the Lux Senior features a rechargeable lithium battery.

woman taking a photo of the camera with the godox lux junior wearing jeans and blouse

Using the Lux Junior. Image courtesy of Godox.

Woman leaning on tree outside holding rolliflex tlr camera with Lux Senior attached about to press the shutter button

Using the Lux Senior. Image courtesy of TTArtisan

Hybrid Compatability

Both flashes are compatible with Fujifilm, Canon, Nikon, Olympus, and Sony digital cameras. Much of their campaign imagery shows the flash being used with these brands, especially with their mirrorless models. The flash can also be used with film cameras and was styled to match with the classic silver and black look which never seemed to go out of trend.

Godox says, ‘As a tribute to the timeless aesthetics that transcends time, Lux Junior presents the pure classic design and function to explore the essence of photography along with you and turn your nostalgia into tangible beauty.’ (source: Godox)

On the Lux Senior, Godox adds, ‘Folded, it’s like another phone you take with. Unfolded, it will be the time machine taking you to travel along the history of photography and to meet the great photographers in the glorious age.’ (source: Godox)

Image of woman wearing white outfit with pink shoes in studio surrounded by disco balls and glittery backdrop

Image courtesy of Godox. Studio photograph taken using the Lux Junior.

Small & Simple

Weighing in at 130 grams, the Lux Junior won’t add much to a photographer’s on-the-go setup. Godox markets this as a product that will keep things simple, ‘Lux Junior is all about the pure enjoyment and excitement of taking every shot. Let’s keep things simple and go rogue. Forget about the rule or the standard, just click the shutter and enjoy the moment.’ (source: Godox)

The marketing campaign doesn’t include street photographers in the imagery, but I instantly see the well matched pairing. A small portable flash that looks retro would pair extremely well with the small, often retro-looking, cameras that many street photographers favor, film and digital alike.

Not much heavier, the Lux Senior weighs in at 227 grams. This flash features a folding design so when not in use, it packs down quite well.

I enjoy using Godox products, like the AD200, as they make it very easy to set up and understand straight away. It doesn’t take long to charge up, turn on, and sync before the flashes are ready to go. They also simply work without fussing about. It is exciting to see them creating products that involve analogue photography and cameras as well as digital and can be used by anyone wanting a small setup. The powerful portable cross-functional hybrids that pack a punch are anything but cute.

To find more information about the Lux Junior, head over to Godox’s dedicated page here. For Lux Senior info, visit this page here.

Images provided by Godox and used with permission.

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12 Comments

  • Reply
    Don Goodman-Wilson
    July 19, 2022 at 10:21 am

    I can’t be the only one excited about these. I love the idea of pairing the Senior with my Contax IIa, it just feels right.

    • Reply
      Molly Kate
      July 19, 2022 at 10:38 am

      I am also super excited! That sounds like a match made in film heaven 🙂

  • Reply
    Terry B
    July 19, 2022 at 11:03 am

    Who actually needs these? And which market is Godox tapping here? The gullible? As flash units go, their performance is woeful (it makes a mockery of calling one unit a “Pro”) and with no variable aperture selection in auto mode the prices asked are somewhat taking the mickey. £80 for the Junior and £100 for the Pro. In fact other than a non selectable aperture in auto mode both flashes set to f2.8, which is clearly designed to make the most of their low Guide Numbers of 12 and 14(Pro).

    What surprises me is that flash units presumably intended for those with little to no flash photography knowledge and for whom would likely require more auto features, to get the most from these units they must be used in manual mode which is, frankly, ridiculous.

    As these units are intended to be used with both film and digital cameras this could be an advantage as the trigger voltage will/should be low so as to not fry a digital camera’s electronics and the units will, I assume, also happily work with film cameras. But Godox’s omission of some camera brands from its list, such as Minolta, Pentax, Leica, Yashica, to name just four, does make me wonder how universally compatible the units will be with a swath of film cameras. Or is Godox simply being over cautious?

    • Reply
      Terry B
      July 19, 2022 at 11:35 am

      The heat’s getting to me. Don’t know how “Senior” became “Pro” in my reply.

    • Reply
      Don Goodman-Wilson
      July 20, 2022 at 1:18 pm

      I’m guessing it’s over-cautious. My Godox X2T-F trigger, although designed specifically for Fuji digital cameras, works just fine with all of my analog cameras with hotshoes (all Pentax). (Although my Godox XPro-F trigger does not…). So I’m extremely confident that these units would work just fine as well.

    • Reply
      Sroyon
      July 21, 2022 at 6:09 am

      The power is not as low as it might seem… Guide Number for flashes with zoom capability is generally reported at the longest focal length, so it sounds more impressive. For example GN for the Nikon SB800 is 56, but that’s at 105mm; at 28mm, it drops to 32. The Senior on the other hand has a fixed focal length of 28mm, so a GN of 14 is not bad, especially considering the fact that with the mini beauty dish, the effective size of the light source is bigger than what you’d get with an unmodified SB800. To get an equivalent light source size on the SB800, if you use something like a Magsphere, that cuts about two stops of light.

      Out of interest, what auto features did you have in mind which would be good for beginners? The Manual mode, as far as I can tell from the photo, is quite simple – on the dial you just line up the ISO and subject distance, then read off what flash power to use for a given aperture. I used a similar dial on my dad’s Rollei E15 flash in the 90s when I was just a kid, so I don’t think it will be hard for a beginner 🙂

      • Reply
        Terry B
        July 21, 2022 at 12:56 pm

        Hi, Sroyon.
        Firstly, these Godox units are not zoom flash units as the reflectors are fixed, so is the GN. I own a “proper” zoom unit from Metz, although it has been quite a while since I last used it. I don’t agree with you when you assert that manufacturers generally reported the GN for zoom units as being at the tele setting as this makes it look more impressive. In my experience, there will be a base GN quoted, usually with the 50mm focal length, and then the GN for the zoom range covered by the unit, and with add-on wide angle diffusers if these are available.

        This is the case with my Mecablitz 40MZ 3i. The 40 in its name refers to its GN 100/21 for the 50mm setting, but the user manual then tables its power at various zoom settings which, in this case, range from 20mm to 105mm, with corresponding GN’s of 22 to 50. Note that Metz didn’t follow your contention with giving the model number a 50 rating. In this respect they followed standard practice for fixed reflector units. Out of interest, at the 20mm setting the GN is 22, and at 28mm it is 31. Admittedly, it is unfair putting these very basic Godox units up against a sophisticated Metz unit.

        As for more automation, I was thinking about selectable apertures, but particularly using them with more modern digital cameras which can take advantage of higher ISO settings and still give very good noise figures with the low GN of the Godox units. As for manually setting the flash with these Godox units whilst it is relatively a simple process, in practice and it isn’t ideal, unless the subject is stationary and prepared to wait. I used to do a fair amount of flash photography and my first auto unit, the Vivitar 283 was a revelation. I could select any one of four apertures giving control over DoF, but more importantly the metering took into account the surroundings, such as the reflections off walls and ceilings and which very much depended upon the size of the rooms. I feel this is where beginners could soon well be disappointed when they find images coming out underexposed.

        • Reply
          Sroyon
          July 21, 2022 at 4:47 pm

          Hi Terry, thanks for explaining. Maybe my comment wasn’t very clear, I realise that these Lux flashes have fixed focal length (see my comment: “The Senior on the other hand has a fixed focal length…”). What I’m saying is, if we want to compare basic flash power, we should compare like for like, i.e. at the same focal length. And at 28mm, I would argue that the Lux Senior’s performance (GN 14) is not exactly woeful compared to your Metz (GN 31); the Lux Senior has just under half the reach of the Metz. Though “woeful” is subjective, so we can agree to disagree on this one 🙂

          Props to Metz for reporting GN at 50mm. I’ve used various modern flashes (Nikon, Canon, Godox…) with zoom capability, and generally (I did say “generally” in my earlier comment) found that GN was reported at the longest focal length. But I haven’t done a full survey, and anyway that’s besides the point. We both agree that the Lux Senior is a fixed 28mm flash.

          Secondly, my hunch is that most people will want to use this flash at shorter distances, in darker environments. I mentioned my dad’s old Rollei flash; I still use it with my film cameras at house parties, inside karaoke bars, etc., and as fill flash in daylight outdoors. If I want to “kill the ambient” or “overpower the sun”, I don’t use the Rollei, I use bigger, more modern flashes. Going by the Lux Senior’s GN, at f4, you can illuminate subjects upto 3.5 metres. And that’s for ISO 100. With HP5, for example, you are good till 14 metres at f4, 28 metres at f2.

          Thirdly and relatedly, for the use case I described, i.e. portraits at relatively low ambient light levels, I would actually prefer the Lux Senior to a conventional speedlight like the Metz. In theory, that is, I haven’t used the Lux (hopefully Godox will send us a review copy). Because the mini beauty dish – again, in theory – will make the light look softer than what emerges from an unmodified speedlight.

          The Vivitar 283 used auto thyristor technology. It was a clever innovation for its day, but one of the reasons why it became obsolete is because you can’t use light modifiers or bounce flash; you need a direct line of sight between the flash unit and the subject. We are gaining some automation, but at the cost of all our photos looking like the typical 80s snapshots. This, for me, would be a deal-breaker. Also the Lux units apparently have sync ports which means they are capable of off-camera flash (and can also be used with very old cameras with coldshoes). Personally, instead of thyristor assistance, I’d much rather have ability to fire the flash off-camera, and to bounce and modify the light. Admittedly a beginner may not want to do all that. But one day they might be tempted to try more advanced lighting techniques, and then they can. In fact it looks like the Lux Senior ships with a PC cord. I think that’s cool.

          The technology which replaced thyristors is TTL. Now traditional TTL is not compatible with digital, at least not reliably so. Because it measures light reflected off the film plane, and digital sensors reflect light differently. Modern TTL technologies (e.g. E-TTL and i-TTL) use a pre-flash, but these are brand-specific. Which is why you have a Metz Mecablitz for Nikon, one for Canon, and so forth.

          All of that to say, as far as I know, there’s currently no simple way to allow for flash automation that is cross-compatible with multiple brands of cameras both digital and film, and which also supports bouncing and modifying the light. So I think Godox did the smart thing in keeping this simple. Just like with manual cameras, simple designs may have more of a learning curve, but they are surprisingly versatile 🙂

          • Terry B
            July 23, 2022 at 1:43 pm

            Hi, Sroyon. Thanks for your interesting comments, a lot I have differing views on, mainly becuse I used the gear extensively.
            I was indeed surprised to learn that in your experience with Canon and Nikon presented their unit’s GN for the zoom setting. This is somewhat disingenuous, but as long as they made this clear and somewhere in the spec they made it clear and quoted the standard practice for 100/21, I suppose they could get away with it. But for the unwary, it could come as a shock.

            Using a dish reflector can be advantageous compared to some electronic units that use clear protective plastic in front of the tube, but the advantage is lost with units, such as my Metz, that adopt a diffuser for this very reason. In referring to the Metz as “conventional” I confess I don’t know what you mean, it is far from conventional, as you would have no doubt discovered if you’d experience of one. Its features and capability put it firmly in the advanced category. And its use of the SCA Module system means it isn’t limited to one camera brand.

            Your reference to the Vivitar 283, also leads me to believe that either you’ve never used one or you are not aware of its full capabilities as a system.

            “but one of the reasons why it became obsolete is because you can’t use light modifiers or bounce flash; you need a direct line of sight between the flash unit and the subject. We are gaining some automation, but at the cost of all our photos looking like the typical 80s snapshots. This, for me, would be a deal-breaker.”

            I would suggest that you check out the accessories Vivitar supplied for it. Not only does it have a bounce capability (how could you not know this, if you’ve used one?) but using the Remote Sensor cord it can be fired off the camera, using bounce if one wishes, or into a brolly. This means one can even use additional units fired from slaves, and with these units fitted with Vari-Power modules in place of the normal sensor, studio lighting effects are just as easy as with bulky strobes. Using my Gossen flash meter, I could get nigh on perfect exposure. Incidentally, I did later acquire a 285 which gained a zoom function. And by using the PC sync cord supplied, the 283/5 can be used with cold shoes as the sync cable deactivates the hot shoe. Although this feature is not unique to Vivitar.

            CAVEAT for modern day usage: I can not wholeheartedly recommend a 283/5 and for most I’d suggest that they steer clear, unless they can be sure of the trigger voltage safe limit for their film camera. What also makes choosing one is that over their production cycle the trigger voltage did change but I know of now way, short of measuring it, to know what it is for a particular unit.

            As for TTL flash, I agree that as a film era unit the Metz is unlikely to work with a modern digital camera, but I say this as I don’t know a) if the trigger voltage is safe, or b) if Metz provide an appropriate SCA adapter. But as for working with range of film cameras, the SCA module system certainly allows for a single unit to be used with different camera brands. The big plus for me is that the Metz could be used with the sophisticated flash capability, including TTL, of my Leica R7, and by simply swapping the SCA module for a plain hotshoe with every other camera I had at that time.

  • Reply
    Matthew Bigwood
    July 19, 2022 at 12:08 pm

    I’d like to see how soft the light is from the larger one with the reflector.

  • Reply
    Johan
    July 19, 2022 at 11:30 pm

    Yeah that senior one looks aamzing

  • Reply
    Sroyon
    August 8, 2022 at 7:03 pm

    Hi Terry, in the interests of full disclosure, Godox kindly sent me the Lux Senior and Junior to test. I’ll review them in the coming weeks. Though I did not yet have the flashes when I wrote my previous comments, and I don’t have any affiliation with Godox. Anyway, I’m not saying that these retro flashes are for you; in fact, all indications point to the contrary. All I’m saying is that they are not – in my opinion – woeful, ridiculous, only for the gullible, etc. But you’re entitled to your opinion, of course.

    I’ve used a Vivitar 285, my father has one including the remote sensor. It is the flash I learned flash photography on. What I meant is that thyristor automation does not work natively when used off-camera or with light-modifiers that block direct line of sight; as you pointed out we need additional accessories. And if we’re talking about additional accessories, Godox has any number of them, many of which (e.g. radio receivers, light modifiers) are compatible with the Lux Senior. More importantly, Godox has many flash models with the capabilities you’re describing, and much more: zoom, adjustable flash power, tilt, swivel, bounce, TTL, optical receiver, radio transceiver, you name it. But the Lux Senior is a different design, with a different user-base in mind. This is the whole point of having a “range”, no? Most brands have it; different strokes for different folks.

    I haven’t used a Metz, but I looked up the manual for your model before I wrote my comment. I accept that it may not have been conventional when it was released, but I meant conventional by current (2022) standards. Features like automated exposure, adjustable power, zoom, built-in diffuser, etc. are all present even on my Godox TT600, which is an entry-level model. In fact the TT600 even has a built in radio transceiver to boot. Unlike the Metz it doesn’t have a modelling light, but the higher-end Godox flashes do.

    A diffuser is not the same thing as the beauty-dish style reflector that the Lux Senior has. The quality and shape of light are different. My Godox and Canon Speedlites have diffusers too. I had a phase when I was very much into light modifiers, so I’ve also compared other types of diffusers including sock-style diffusers and Magsphere-style omnidirectional diffusers. I could go into the physics of why and how they are different, but I think that’s enough for today 🙂

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