In Search of Darkness and Light: Black & White Film Stocks, Part 5 – The Conclusion

By Scott Ferguson

This all started as a friendly conversation about looking for a ‘go to’ black & white film choice, partly because I wanted to stock up before the US tariffs kicked in.  Not being quite convinced about any single stock, I decided to embark on a ‘grand tour’ of the major b&w emulsions and report back here on 35mmc in what has grown into a 5 part magnum opus.  While I’m starting to notice some price increases here and there, so far I haven’t seen a major spike — which is good because I’ve sampled over 30 different b&w film labels in a variety of shooting situations from landscape to art/architecture to portraiture to street shooting.

It’s been a blast!  But what did I learn?

Before I start, I want to emphasize that anything I might write here and any judgments I might make about my personal favorites or anything I didn’t love are purely my subjective taste, and may have as much to do with me having a good or bad day when a certain film was loaded as the intrinsic qualities of any given emulsion.  I hope this leads to a lively discussion as the other posts in this series have, and I’m quite open to a variety of opinions whether you think I’m on or off the mark with a stock you may know better than I do.

I’ll also acknowledge that there are brands and emulsions I may have missed that could be great and I’ll happily hear of personal favorites that are worthy of checking out.  I won’t rule out revisiting different film emulsions in some future post(s), but my near future is more likely to be focused on using up some of the film in my fridge and revisiting the different favorites I’ve discovered here.  Plus I’ll be shooting a bit of color!

Here’s the list of film stocks I’ve shot for this series, sorted by brand.

Kodak -TMax 100, Tri-X, TMax 400, TMax 3200

Ilford – Pan F Plus, Ortho 80 Plus, Delta 100, FP4, SFX 200, HP5, Delta 400, XP2, Delta 3200

Rollei – RPX 25, Ortho 25 Plus, Agfa Copex Rapid 50, Blackbird 64, Retro 80S, RPX 100, Superpan 200, RPX 400, Retro 400S, Infrared

Cinestill – XX

Fomapan – 200 Creative, 400 Action

Kentmere – Pan100, Pan 200, Pan 400

400 ISO films pushed to 1600 – HP5, Tri-X, XP2, Delta 400, RPX 400, TMax 400, Lomo Berlin, Kentmere Pan 400, AgfaPhoto APX 400

Some well-informed readers may point out that a couple of these films are actually the same emulsion sold under two different labels.  Hopefully I haven’t wildly praised and disdained the same exact film in the couple of cases where this has happened!

My approach to photography is pretty instinctive and intuitive.  I try to absorb enough of the technology & scientific aspects to use them creatively, but not to let them dominate.   I can’t offer an in-depth analysis of silver halide chemistry,  tabular vs. non tabular grain structure, or a series of focus charts in controlled lighting on all 30 labels — or for that matter any of them.  I don’t think I would have known what to do with that information…

So for me this series has very much been about ‘feel’ and seeing how all these different films performed in the kinds of shooting situations I was likely to be using them in.  Part 1 consisted of reviewing things I already had in my Lightroom Library.  The other posts were all shot with this series in mind ‘on location.’  I haven’t ventured into studio shooting or lighting set ups yet.   The closest I got to any kind of rigorous methodology are some shoots done for Part 2 & Part 3 where I tried swapping film backs on my Hasselblad 500CM so I could see how different films performed in the same setup and lighting conditions, which was very interesting!  In Part 4 I took a deep dive into street photography while pushing 400 ISO films by 2 stops as well as 3200 films at box speed in wildly variable and sometimes slightly chaotic conditions where once a moment was gone, it was gone forever.

I feel like I’ve learned a huge amount by doing, and have come away from this experience with strong ideas about stocks I love, stocks I like, and stocks I’m not in a hurry to revisit.  And I hope this series will help other photographers who might want to know more about their options in b&w film.

So what are the takeaways?

The top-line lesson from doing this project is that I think my original quest for a single ‘go to’ b&w film stock was a fool’s errand — for me, at least.  I respect anyone who has a very settled style and a defined ‘voice’ as a photographer that can be served by going deep into a favorite emulsion, but I’ve found so many different stocks so distinctive, so interesting, and so right for certain situations and looks & feels that the strategy for me going forward will definitely be ‘Horses for Courses.’

I’ve come a long way since that conversation with Hamish back in March, when I was trying to decide if I was ready to go all in on Ilford XP2 and start buying it in bulk.  XP2’s early lead was based on a magic day in December on the frozen surface of Lake Louise.  I was blown away by the results and really excited to keep shooting with that film.

LAKE LOUISE 12/15/24, Hasselblad 500 CM, Zeiss Planar 80mm f2.8, with red filter,  Ilford XP2

Subsequently, I shot a handful of rolls of XP2 and it performed well, but I wasn’t consistently able to repeat the spectacular results I got that first day at Lake Louise.  When I started to drill down into my Lightroom Library for Part 1, I realized that EVERYTHING I shot that day looked amazing, including the XP2, but also Tri-X, Ektar, Kodak 200 Gold, Cinestill 400D, and Portra 400.  So maybe it was down to the ‘Lake Louise Light’!

This shot on 35mm Tri-X has a completely different look and feel — it’s later in the day and the clouds were starting to move in, but the contrast, detail and grain structure are completely different, as is the ‘feel’ — the image on XP2 feels very crisp and contemporary, while the Tri-X feels kind of timeless, despite having more contemporary details in the frame like iPhones and 21st Century winter wear.

LAKE LOUISE 12/15/24, Leica M3, Leitz Canada Elmarit 90mm, f2.8, Tri-X

That I love both of these shots is at the core of my emerging theory about b&w and still film shooting in general.  There’s no right or perfect choice, but a large array of options that will give you a vast range of different subtle or not-so-subtle looks and feels.

The next major ‘learning’ was to try to make some kind of sense of where different film stocks resemble each other and where they diverge and how I might ultimately use them creatively.   I started to think of them falling in certain ‘lanes’ across the major brands.    So here’s a completely subjective and non-scientific attempt to group my favorite b&w stocks into different types, think about what shooting situations they might be good for, and when possible, rate my favorites.

THE FINE GRAIN 400’S

Being able to deliver a fine grain result while shooting at 400 ISO offers incredible versatility in all kinds of weather conditions and all kinds of different shooting situations.  So it’s not surprising that this is one of the most crowded and competitive sections of the monochrome film marketplace.  All of the major labels have their offerings, and Ilford has more than one, including Delta 400 & XP2, which I shot along with Kodak TMax 400, Rollei RPX 400 and Kentmere Pan 400.  From my non-scientific analysis, Ilford XP2 and Kodak TMax 400 have the finest grain; I think that is what attracted me to XP2 in those early days.   But as I’ve gotten deeper into film photography, my taste has shifted a bit, and for me, Delta 400 might be the ‘Goldilocks Chair’ of the fine grain 400’s — great contrast and detail, super sharp, but perhaps a tiny bit of grain that gives the stock a subtly warmer, more film-like look to my eye.

Delta 400 might be the closest to a ‘when in doubt’ stock for me; the one I’d load if I wasn’t sure of the conditions but wanted to be very sure of coming away with a strong high quality result with broad appeal.  It’s an awesome choice to shoot in a very controlled situation where you want to feel the volume and texture of a Henry Moore sculpture.

SHEEP PIECE, Henry Moore, Hasselblad 500 CM, Zeiss Planar 80mm f2.8, Ilford Delta 400

Delta 400 is also right along with you when the party is getting started, like here at NYC Pride, where I pushed it a couple of stops.

PRIDE DAY, Leica M3, Voigtlander Color Skopar 28mm f3,5, Delta 400 @ 1600

Kentmere Pan 400 is a relatively recent discovery, which I only picked up in the course of doing Part 3 of this survey.  But I have to say, I’m pretty impressed with the early results and feel like it gives its Harman Technologies stable mate a serious run for the money at a fraction of the cost!

DOUBLE OVAL, Henry Moore, Hasselblad 500CM, Zeiss Planar 80mm f2.8 with Red Filter, Kentmere Pan 400

It also looks great when you push it a couple of stops.  Based on an admittedly small sample, I might even prefer it to Delta 400 under those conditions.

FLATIRON MAN Leica M3, Leitz Summarit 50mm f2, with Yellow/Green filter, Kentmere 400 @1600

I think any of the fine grain 400’s are great options to get really strong results.  But for my personal taste, I’m down to Delta 400 as the ‘best in class’, but count myself as officially ‘Kentmere Curious’ and am eager to explore that film more in both 120 and 35mm.

The ‘Classics’

Tri-X and HP5 are among the most popular film stocks on the market and both have been around in some form or other for eighty plus years for very good reasons.  They feel like the entry point for many/most photographers who decide to shoot in monochrome, and some people never feel any reason or need to leave.  I may have been one of those photographers if not for some early ‘hardware’ issues with vintage cameras that made me prematurely blame the film stock.

In a win-win situation, I started to be more adventuresome in my choice of b&w stocks which led to this survey, and after moving away from Tri-X for a while, I re-discovered it when I loaded an old roll I had on hand to test out a new lens (the Voigtlander Color Skopar 28mm f3.5.)  Now both Tri-X and HP5 are in full rotation as great options, especially if I’m looking for something with a bit of a documentary/journalistic feel.

ANTI-ELON PROTEST, Leica M3, Voigtlander Color Skopar 28mm f3.5, Tri-X
CANADIAN HELLS ANGELS, Leica M2, Leitz Summicron 50mm f2, Tri-X

But I think they are also great for all kinds of shooting situations where you like a nice amount of contrast with deep blacks and bright highlights, but aren’t put off by a bit of grain.

FERRY MODEL, Leica M3, Leitz Summitar 50mm f2, with Yellow Filter,  HP5

If you want a classic look, I’m not sure I see a creative reason to move past the O.G.’s of Tri-X and HP5.  I’m sure there are lots of more experienced photographers than me who can champion the virtues of one or the other, but for me it’s a coin toss.

Fair Weather Friends

My early days of shooting with these amazing vintage cameras were mostly about landscape because I happened to find myself in one of the most epic and beautiful landscapes in the world, the Canadian Rockies near Calgary.  Shooting a gorgeous mountain tableau affords you the luxury of looking into the finer grained end of the ISO spectrum; if you are setting up a shot of a mountain that has been in the same spot for 50 plus million years you can afford to put the camera on a tripod and use a longer, or even a much longer exposure.  Some of my best and favorite b&w landscapes are on slower stocks that delivered gorgeous results.

MOUNT LAWRENCE GRASSI, Hasselblad 500 CM, Zeiss Planar 80mm f2.8 with Red Filter, Delta 100
BOW LAKE GLACIER, Hasselblad 500CM, Zeiss Planar 80mm f2.8 with Orange Filter, Ilford Pan F Plus 50

Delta 100 vs. Pan F Plus is a tough call — I think my sample size is probably too small and conditions & time of day might be a bigger factor than the film stock on images like these.  Delta 100 might have a small advantage of being at a friendlier f stop,  but I love the clarity and detail with these slower stocks shot through Zeiss glass on the Hasselblad.   I don’t think I need to say much more!

Superfine

When you’re in the mood to go even deeper into ‘slow photography’ and have the luxury of either enough light or enough time and a steady tripod plus a cable release, Rollei offers a couple of 25 ISO b&w stocks.

THE HIGH FALLS OF JOHNSTON CANYON, Hasselblad 500 CM, Zeiss Planar 80mm f2.8 with Orange Filter, Rollei RPX 25

At ISO 25, these are clearly not your ‘every day’ stocks, especially if you like to shoot with filters.  I had an orange filter on at Johnston Canyon and I think I was shooting something like a 1/2 second exposure in very bright sunlight.

I managed to shoot our dog Nico handheld by going pretty wide open with a very narrow depth of field.

NICO, Hasselblad 500 CM with 645 back, Zeiss Planar f2.8, Rollei Ortho 25 Plus

The level of micro details on the ice formations of the frozen waterfall or the fur on Nico’s ear are stunning.  I think RPX 25 is a little more ‘clinical’ and Ortho 25 is a little ‘warmer’, which might give Ortho a slight ‘taste’ edge for me.   I recently loaded another roll and tried it out for some NYC street shooting.

CHIARA, Hasselblad 500CM, Zeiss 80mm Planar f2.8, Rollei 25 Ortho

Even in fairly strong overhead light, I think the results with this lovely young woman I ran into in my neighborhood in Brooklyn came out looking quite good, with really fine grain and nice contrast.

Timeless/Period

I was struck by the quality of these shots of the ancient trees at the Rockefeller Preserve shot on Ortho Plus 80.  They feel like they could have been taken any time in the last 100 years.

STONE WALL/WOOD FENCE, Hasselblad 500CM, Zeiss Planar f2.8, Ilford Ortho Plus 80

Ortho Plus 80 has a really interesting grain structure that gives a very distinctive look, but at the same time the level of detail is impressive.

FOUR TREES, Hasselblad 500CM, Zeiss Planar f2.8, Ilford Ortho Plus 80

I’m keen to try more Ortho Plus 80, and I would definitely want to bring some if I were touring a location that is steeped in history.  But since I’ve only shot one roll so far, I’d probably also bring a healthy supply of Delta 100.  I think Delta 100 makes even shots with contemporary details like 21st Century cars and buildings feel kind of timeless…

LOWER MANHATTAN FROM RED HOOK, Hasselblad 500CM, Zeiss Sonnar 250mm f5.6, Delta 100
PRE-SCHOOL OUTING, DUMBO, BROOKLYN,  Hasselblad 500CM, Zeiss Planar 80mm f2.8, Ilford Delta 100

Modern/Contemporary

If you’re keen on more of a modern, crisp, contemporary feel, I don’t think you can go wrong with either Ilford XP2 or Kodak TMax 400.

BOW RIVER CANMORE, Hasselblad 500CM, Zeiss Planar 80mm f2.8, with Orange Filter, XP2
PARK SLOPE STROLLERS, Leica M3, Leitz Summicron 50mm f2, Dual Range, Kodak TMax 400

I’d probably lean to XP2 for this application, it might have a tiny edge in having a cooler, ‘crisper’ feel that feels a little more contemporary to me, while TMax feels more like a 400 ISO film that delivers results on par with a 100 ISO stock in terms of sharpness and grain, but is possibly a little cooler and more clinical to my eye than the Delta stocks.

Fine Art/Creative

For NFL fans, Blackbird is the ‘Mr. Irrelevant’ of my grand tour, literally the final b&w film stock to make the cut.  I spotted a roll while I was turning in some film at Photodom, a new black-owned boutique lab in NYC.  It sat in my fridge for a couple of weeks until I was about to hit to the deadline for getting it into Part 3.  I loaded in on NYC Pride Day, more because I wanted to get it into the lab the following Monday morning than out of any plan or creative strategy.

Shoot a 64 ISO film at box speed going into one of the more chaotic shooting situations I’ve put myself in was, um, counterintuitive?  Conditions were tricky and I was metering at ISO 15 to compensate for the filter, and to round up at least a stop, as is my habit these days.  (Or is it round down?)   I didn’t have particularly high hopes and it felt more like crossing something of a list when I finished the roll of Blackbird and loaded something I really wanted to shoot that day.

However my attitude changed completely when I saw what came back from the lab!

STRAWBERRY TREV AND FRIEND, Leica M3, Leitz Summitar 50mm f2, with Yellow/Green filter, Rollei Blackbird 64

There may be some recency bias here, but I really love the look of Blackbird!  These shots have a kind of depth and vibrance of tone that I think could be really exciting for situations where I’m looking for more of a ‘fine art’ look and feel.  I wish they made it in 120, as I think it would be a pretty exciting film to shoot with the Hasselblad.

DANCER AT THE BARRICADE Leica M3, Leitz Summitar 50mm f2, with Yellow/Green Filter, Rollei Blackbird 64

Uh oh, I may be falling in love with a film stock that is hard to get!  Which reminds me of my high school dating strategy…  Blackbird doesn’t seem to show up at any of the major NYC outlets or on-line retailers.  Hopefully the people at Rollei will see this and start turning out more Blackbird in both 35mm and 120!

But if that doesn’t happen, my other options for a Fine Art look are not to be sneezed at, including Ilford Pan F Plus 50.

BOW LAKE ICE CRYSTALS, Hasselblad 500CM, Zeiss Distagon 60mm f3.5 with Orange Filter, Ilford Pan F Plus

Or Rollei Retro 80S, which shares some of the distinctive ‘dark glow’ to the blacks which I really like on Blackbird and haven’t seen on stocks from other brands.

RING MODEL, Leica M3, Leitz Summitar 50mm f2, Rollei 80S
MANHATTAN BRIDGE STANCHION, Leica M3, Leitz Summitar 50mm f2, Rollei 80S

One of my takeaways is that the sub 80 ISO Rollei stocks — Ortho 25, Blackbird and Retro 80S — are some of the films I’m most keen to keep shooting coming out of this experience, but they are decidedly in the High Risk/High Reward category.   If you miss exposure they can go from amazing to unviewable without stopping at ‘okay’, and it’s not hard to have focus challenges when shooting handheld at a suitable aperture/shutter speed combo.  But when I hit it right, they are among my favorite ‘portfolio’ shots, if I had a portfolio…

Honorable Mentions

There are a number of really good stocks that aren’t quite fitting neatly into any of the ‘lanes’  that I’ve identified for this post.  This might be because I might just prefer some other stock a little more in a certain category.  But probably the overriding reason is that I’ve only shot a roll or two of a lot of these film stocks, often on the Hasselblad.  12 frames really isn’t enough to get much of a sense of the range or what the most ideal use for any film stock might be.

Rollei RPX 400 feels a little like it’s falling ‘between two stools’ of Fine Grain 400’s and the Classics; it’s a little grainier than Delta or Kentmere 400, but it looks a little finer-grained than Tri-X or HP5.  It has a reasonable price point, but it’s not as cheap at Kentmere Pan 400.  It might be a little like the student who is pretty good at everything, but not quite the best at anything.  But that may be the kind of student I was, so I wouldn’t hesitate to load some RPX 400 and give it a shot.

PROCESSION, Leica M3, Voigtlander Color Skopar 28mm f3.5, Rollei RPX 400 @ 1600

I’ve only shot one roll of Cinestill XX on 120 and liked it.  But I’m not quite sure of the right situation to use it.  250 is an odd ISO slightly off the ‘normal’ options on the dial of a light meter and falling between the finer grained choices at 100 or lower, and the faster stocks of 400 and up.

I’d welcome input from the forum on where and when they like to shoot with XX, but I think I should shoot a roll of 35mm and see what I think.  I like the Cinestill color films a lot, so I have a feeling I’ll like XX after I get to know it better.

RED HOOK GRAIN TERMINAL, Hasselblad 500CM, Zeiss Planar 80mm f2.8 with 645 back, Cinestill XX

I think this shot shows that Rollei RPX 100 is a pretty strong stock, but I shot this around midday and the quality of light and the interest in the sky just weren’t as photogenic as something like the shot of Mount Grassi on Delta 100, which may not be fair to what could be a wonderful stock on a better (time of) day with a better photographer.  I do like the level of detail in the shadows and the sense of depth and dimensionality of this shot of a frozen bend in the Bow River.

BOW RIVER, BANFF, Hasselblad 500 CM, Zeiss Planar 80mm f2.8, Rollei RPX 100

I’m so new to shooting the Kentmere stocks that I don’t think I have a large enough sample size to judge Kentmere Pan 100.  But I definitely think it’s worth continuing to shoot more of it, if only because it costs about 50% of the major brands!

NEW CROTON DAM SPILLWAY, Hasselblad 500CM, Zeiss Distagon 60mm, f3.5, Kentmere Pan100

I’m also not quite sure where I’d categorize the newest stock I shot for his survey, Kentmere Pan 200, which was released on May 8, 2025.

Leica M3, Voigtlander Color Skopar 28mm f3.5, Kentmere 200

I really like this shot because of the moment if captures — a moment of high glamour but for the benefit of some nice looking every day people (homage to Sly Stone.) This shot tests the limits of the dynamic range of the film but I like the contrast between the strong dark foreground shapes of the woman in the elegant gown and the high end car against an almost blown out Brooklyn Bridge and NYC skyline with a bit of sun flare.

I need to shoot more Kentmere Pan 200 to see where it lands, whether it’s Fine Art/Classic or Timeless, or something else altogether.  But I am liking the Kentmere line so much I think it’s worth putting it through its paces.  And it’s exciting that the market for b&w film is strong enough that they are still introducing new products!

I think all of the Honorable Mentions are very promising stocks, and I’d be curious if anyone in the forum feels particularly strongly about the virtues of any of them that I might think about for times and ways to use them.

I also thought the 3200 speed films from both Kodak and Ilford are very good stocks and great for shooting in lower light situations.  But I’m not 100% sure whether I see a creative, as opposed to logistical, reason to choose one of them and whether the price premium makes them preferable to pushing one of the strong 400 ISO films.  Again, I’d welcome input from more experienced photographers on the forum about those films.

Yes, there are some stocks that I didn’t love as much as these that may not make it into my fridge any time soon, and a few that I’ll definitely be avoiding.  But I think I’ll leave things well enough alone with those unnamed stocks for the purposes of this post and stick with praising the ones that I’m enthusiastic to try again.  Which is still quite a few different options to choose from!

So there we have it!   Coming out of this months long project, those are my leading ideas on what I think my favorite ‘Horses for Courses’ will be going forward. This has been a really fun journey down the rabbit hole of the world of black & white film emulsions.   Not only have I discovered seven or eight film stocks that I really liked and may never have tried otherwise, but I feel like I’ll be making a more informed choice when I pick a lesser known film, as opposed to making a wild ass guess. It’s fantastic that there is such a wide range of options on the market that give so many different and interesting looks and feels!

I’d be interested in an informal survey in the comment section about your #1 favorite b&w film to load if you have one, and if reading this has made you want to try one or more stocks that will be new to you.

Technical Notes:  These were all shot on either a Leica M3 or a Hasselblad 500CM.  The lab work was mostly done at the same lab in Brooklyn (Photo Life), except for the earlier Canadian shots that were done at a home lab by a friend.  I know, I know… For most of these shots, especially the more recent ones, I have been metering one stop below box speed, but processing at box speed.  E.G, if I’m shooting a 400 ISO film, I set the meter at 200 (with additional compensation if I’m using a filter) but then process at 400.  This systematic 1 stop overexposure has helped my results improve greatly since I started using the technique, which I learned from our 35mmc host, Hamish Gill.

On that note, I’d like to thank Hamish for his wisdom and encouragement and endlessly generous advice; I think my photography has improved immensely since I started contributing to 35mmc, especially in b&w!  A good bit of this is down to Hamish, but also to the entire community.

Well,  this has been amazing.  It feels a little bit like I took an immersive course in b&w  photography and learned a lot and ended up with some cool photos that I love!

The cover image, a reflected self-portrait was shot on the Leica M3 with the Summitar 50mm f2 with the Yellow/Green Filter on Delta 400 pushed to 1600.

Note:  I generally try to avoid re-posting images that I’ve already shared on 35mmc, but for this re-cap/overview post, I’ve made an exception to this unwritten rule.

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By Scott Ferguson
Scott Ferguson is an independent film and television producer known for such films as Brokeback Mountain, Only Lovers Left Alive and The People vs. Larry Flynt, and the television shows The Night Of and Succession. While working around cameras and recorded images for his entire career, shooting still photography with vintage all manual cameras is a new and very stimulating passion.
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Bob Janes on In Search of Darkness and Light: Black & White Film Stocks, Part 5 – The Conclusion

Comment posted: 26/08/2025

Lovely informative article and great pictures.
One thing I note though - although you listed it at the beginning, you don't mention FP4 - does it not float your boat?
I wonder what processing these films received - Do some stocks do better in certain soups? Is it possible that the Lake Louise shots were processed in a different developer (presuming that they were processed at a similar time and at the same place..)
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Comment posted: 26/08/2025

Hey Bob, First, thank you for the kind words. Yes, FP4 was one of the many stocks I shot, but for reasons that are hard to define it didn't really stand out for me compared to some of the other stocks I've singled out in this post. Because I'm relatively new to shooting film and for a lot of the stocks in this series I was only able to shoot a single roll, often on 120, I didn't always get a sample for enough depth or breadth to show every stock's true potential. I covered FP4 in Part 2 with some shots I took on an overcast day at a park in NYC with a Grecian/Persian Folly, and I think I might have been getting a little 'snowblind' at that point in the series and nothing really 'popped' for me from that day. The Lake Louise shots were processed at a friends home lab up in Canada, but I do think there was something special about the light that day -- in late December that far north I think you get a very nice angle of sunlight for most if not all of the day, and the bounce from the frozen lake along with a dramatic sky made for some terrific landscapes.

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Christopher Welch on In Search of Darkness and Light: Black & White Film Stocks, Part 5 – The Conclusion

Comment posted: 26/08/2025

Thanks for the series Scott! I started out with Ilford HP5 Plus and was sending it off to a lab for processing and scanning. I didn't like the look of it. It seemed grey and washed out. So I decided to learn to process and scan myself. I switched to Kodak Tri X and develop in Kodak D-76 and that was it for me. It was exactly the right balance of contrast and rich blacks. I tried Kentmere 100 and Fomapan 100. Fomapan curls up so bad it makes it hard to scan so I decided to stick with Tri X. I found something I like that's affordable to do at home and Tri X and D-76 is very forgiving.
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Scott Ferguson replied:

Comment posted: 26/08/2025

Thanks Christopher! Yes, someday I may 'graduate' to doing my own processing. But my theory is that I'm still exploring the rabbit hole of learning to shoot and all involved in getting that side of the process to a place where I'm fluent, and to add a major variable like developer chemicals and techniques would be a rabbit hole inside a rabbit hole, and I can only handle one at a time. But I've gotten tons of great advice from more seasoned photographers on this series that I hope to use one day when I'm ready to make the leap. Cheers, s

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Geoff Chaplin on In Search of Darkness and Light: Black & White Film Stocks, Part 5 – The Conclusion

Comment posted: 26/08/2025

Thanks for the series, interesting and worthwhile with some lovely and stunning images. Have you had any problems with Rollei Retro 80S in 120? All the films I bought were faulty - printed circles and blotchy patterns with clear well defined areas in cross shapes. RPX25 in 35mm (both films supposedly Aviphot 80 as you know) shot at 100asa and stand developed in Rodinal was wonderful however. RPX100, APX100, RPX400 and APX400 (supposedly Kentmere) should have corresponding grain structures - maybe different development and/or exposure led to perceived differences in the 400 films?
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Scott Ferguson replied:

Comment posted: 26/08/2025

Hey Geoff, Yes, I had similar issues shooting Rollei Retro 80S in 120 in Part 1. I think someone else mentioned a bad batch of Retro 80S and theorized there was a problem with the backing paper. I really liked what I shot on RPX 25, but shooting a 25ISO film isn't an everyday situation for me, but it sounds like it might do very well pushed a couple of stops, which is interesting. Interesting if RPX400, and APX400 and Kentmere Pan 400 are all the same film. I didn't get too granular comparing those stocks, but my shots on Kentmere were definitely among my favorites. I shot the Kentmere quite late in this series, so it's also possible that I was improving enough a photographer that might account for some of the variation in quality. I didn't know they were theoretically the same film, so I might revisit those different films to see what I think with that perspective. Thank you!

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Geoff Chaplin replied:

Comment posted: 26/08/2025

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_photographic_films is a useful source, not guaranteed to be correct. There was a test on YouTube of Kentmere 100 vs RPX100 and APX100m same lighting (indoor), same subject, same development - images appeared to be identical.

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Scott Ferguson replied:

Comment posted: 26/08/2025

Hey Geoff, That wikipedia article is really interesting! My approach to testing emulsions is not nearly as controlled or scientific, so its not all that surprising that I might experience some slightly different levels of results with different rolls of the same emulsion. As I recall, I don't think I had any situation where I gave a rave review of one label while panning the performance of another group marketing the same film -- I gave RPX and APX 400 both solid reviews, but it's interesting that I felt like my results on Kentmere 400 were a little better across multiple rolls. That might be down to a small sample of individual photos where the combination of the subject, the light conditions/time of day, and my execution of exposure and focus hit the mark that just happened to be with Kentmere loaded. But the other good news is that Kentmere is the least expensive, at least here in the US, so if I have to pick one that I like the most, it's nice for me that it also has the friendliest price tag!

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Keith Drysdale on In Search of Darkness and Light: Black & White Film Stocks, Part 5 – The Conclusion

Comment posted: 26/08/2025

I found the series fascinating and entertaining as I had gone through my own journey of discovery when I started processing my own film. I think I am now leaning towards Ilford and Kentmere products as I can get consistent results and they dry flat. I did recently try Rollei Retro 80S and although the results looked good, the handling was a pain - it just wouldn't wind on to the spiral without sticking and it dries so curly that it is difficult to get in the holder for scanning. Thanks for the series.
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Scott Ferguson replied:

Comment posted: 26/08/2025

Hey Keith, While I don't do my own processing yet, I find Ilford and Kentmere very reliably good when shooting with them. I find Rollei kind of exciting, but as noted they can be high risk/high reward. It's interesting that they are also difficult to handle in post... Thanks!

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Art Meripol on In Search of Darkness and Light: Black & White Film Stocks, Part 5 – The Conclusion

Comment posted: 26/08/2025

These have been some of the most fascinating posts on 35mmc. I started shooting in the 70's and it was Tri-X-Tri-X-Tri-X. Everything started and ended with Tri-X. I wonder if the reason it has such a journalistic look was because it was the standard in journalism and what our eyes were trained to. Which came first, the chicken or the egg?
I will always love Tri-X. But after years of shooting digital and now casually returning to film I'm seeing what a huge difference the film stock makes. Your exploration will kept me from wasting time and money. Whatever I shoot these days will seldom be journalism. I'm looking for tonal fine grain and have landed mostly on Delta 100. I am still not shooting much film but expect to increase. I shoot with an M4P and a Mamiya C3 so not too dissimilar from the formats you're using. I've kept every one of your posts for quick referral and really look forward to trying out a few more of those you've checked out for us. Thanks for all your delightful work and lovely images.
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Scott Ferguson replied:

Comment posted: 26/08/2025

Thanks so much, Art! I love hearing this from you. Your journey sounds quite interesting. And I am intrigued by the 'chicken and egg' question about Tri-X. I'm glad I may have saved you some time and money by doing this. It was a great motivator for me to get out and shoot, and concentrating that heavily on monochrome for a fairly extended period has improved my b&w shooting immensely. I was more of a color shooter who occasionally 'tried' b&w 6 months ago, and now I'd say I'm more of a b&w shooter who does color from time to time. I think Delta 100 is a gorgeous film and in that initial conversation, I was weighing between Delta 100 vs. XP2, because of the combination of fine grain but still having a 'film' feel. If you can afford to go down a stop, I'd say PanF Plus is also a pretty great fine grain stock, and if you need a higher ISO, which I often do for NYC street shooting, I'd probably make Delta 400 my staple. You could do a lot worse than sticking to those stocks, unless you're looking for something a little outside the envelope, like some of those Rollei stocks. Cheers, s

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Art Meripol replied:

Comment posted: 26/08/2025

Thanks Scott. When I'm shooting film it's all B&W and for my own pleasure. I have a good friend who is a master large format film photographer and he suggested the Delta 100. But I am interested in some even slower film. Your suggestion of the Pan F Plus sounds just right. I'm more likely to go with higher speed with the M4P but slower with the larger format.

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Scott Ferguson replied:

Comment posted: 26/08/2025

That's exciting! I really like Pan F Plus, and feel like I still haven't unlocked its full potential -- a lot of my shots on Pan F were not in the best conditions or light, but grain and contrast are so gorgeous I know it can do amazing things. I am drawn to the look you get with the 80 and under ISO films, but I mostly shoot in a more 'run and gun' style where it can be tricky unless it's a really sunny day, so I don't load those films as often as I do 100 -400 films. But on those bright days, those slow films have been behind some of my best and favorite shots! If you are shooting something in a very controlled situation, I'd also consider Rollei Ortho 25, which I think is beautiful and has a very rich feel, even with the handheld 'street' shots I have here. With 120 it's not too hard to shoot multiple rolls and see what comes out the best! I'll be intrigued to see what you come up with.

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Curtis Heikkinen on In Search of Darkness and Light: Black & White Film Stocks, Part 5 – The Conclusion

Comment posted: 26/08/2025

Another amazing article in your series! Fantastic work! As I was reading it, I got to wondering: is there a bad film stock? It seems as though most will work under the right circumstances and if properly used. As for me, I really like XP2 not only because I love the results but also because my lab, which generally has to send out black and white film, can process it in house because it is c41. I just tried a roll of Kentmere Pan 200 and loved it. Again, you’ve done some wonderful work in this series and produced a ton of fine images. Thanks for all your efforts!
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Scott Ferguson replied:

Comment posted: 26/08/2025

Thanks Curtis! In Part 5 I chose not to dwell on any stocks that I didn't like, and there were really only two rolls that felt like they were bad rolls, perhaps from some manufacturing/supply chain issue. One was a roll of Rollei Retro 80S on 120, which came out looking all pockmarked like there was some dust or grit that got into the base layer, the other was a roll of Fomapan 400 that just came out looking pretty crappy. I probably won't try those again, although I tried and liked Rollei Retro 80S on 35mm. Everything else I shot seemed pretty good at what they were meant to be pretty good at, so it was a matter of my personal taste in terms of what I came away from wanting to shoot more. It does feel like I consistently get more keepers on certain films, primarily Delta 100 and 400, and maybe the Kentmere films, which feel pretty similar, while I get more interesting highs and lows on the Rollei films. I really like Tri-X, but find the TMax films a little more clinical than the corresponding Ilford films. Happy shooting! s

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David Pauley on In Search of Darkness and Light: Black & White Film Stocks, Part 5 – The Conclusion

Comment posted: 26/08/2025

Scott,

This was a fantastic conclusion to a wonderful series. Before reading the text I looked at each photo and in addition to being blown away by the beauty of your images was quite taken by the different looks the various film stocks impart. As you know I am by dint of habit and perhaps laziness mostly a Tri-X and HP5 shooter, but I think this may change as a result of reading your opus. The framework you've suggested for grouping the various films makes wonderful sense. I'm especially interested in the slower speed films you sampled. Like carrying along different camera bodies or lenses on an outing, your articles make a solid case for having a mix of emulsions at hand. (For me til now this has been mostly restricted to b/w vs C41). Finally when you're ready for new rabbit holes I hope you will sample and write about different developers. I had a year-long infatuation with PMK Pyrocat but after some disappointing rolls have become enamored with Kodak HC-110. Go figure! There are also ecological considerations involved with developer choices as some market themselves as environmentally friendly (and some such as Caffenol, a home made brew, actually are). Thank you again for this wonderfully engaging and generous project! David
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Scott Ferguson replied:

Comment posted: 26/08/2025

Thanks David! Thanks so much for the kind words about the photos! This series has been really interesting for me and has seen a great deal of growth in terms of how I shoot. It's fun to think on what I'm planning to shoot and how that impacts my choice of emulsions. I do feel lucky to have, completely by happenstance, a camera that allows for swapping film from one shot to the next. As I think back, I'm not sure I would have done this series without the sense of freedom to change film on a dime that you get wiht a Hasselblad -- or more likely, I'd only be on Part 3 by now! I'd love to see how you do trying out some different emulsions, but your shots on HP5 and Tri-X are awesome and make me want to get some of those stocks in 120. After finishing this series, with a few exceptions, I've been trying to shoot out some of the film that I have in the fridge, including a fair amount of XP2 in both 35mm and 120, and Ektar & PanF Plus in 35mm before buying too much new, but your MF shots on Tri-X and HP5 look fantastic! Cheers, s

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Gary Smith on In Search of Darkness and Light: Black & White Film Stocks, Part 5 – The Conclusion

Comment posted: 26/08/2025

Lots of great comments! I think that I counted 28 film stocks at the beginning of your Part 3. Like Art, when I started shooting I predominantly shot Tri-X although I probably also shot Plus-X a bit. All was self-developed. Fast forward 50 years and shooting a variety of digital cameras it seems that color is much easier these days (along with software to tweak in post).

My first rolls of b&w were HP5+ after which I reverted to Tri-X. I went with Fomapan 100 for the 4 x 5 and now I have two rolls of Fp4 in 2 different cameras (due to the use of Fp4 in Dave's article of 15 AUG). I re-started developing using Cinestill's Df-96 which didn't do very well on the Fomapan. I'm now back to using Kodak-branded chemistry: D-76.

While you mentioned your friend's lab, you didn't explain his chemistry or if you did all of your roll there.

By the way, I love the shots you took using the Ilford Ortho Plus 80. I may need to give that a shot.

Thanks for your great series, Scott!
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Scott Ferguson replied:

Comment posted: 26/08/2025

Hey Gary, Thanks for the kind words! I think it's interesting how everyone seems to start with Tri-X, including me! It's a great film, for sure and has a nice amount of contrast, and enough grain to make you feel like you're shooting film, not to mention a friendly price point these days. I wouldn't have done this series if I hadn't started looking at other stocks after a couple of rough looking rolls of Tri-X early on when I first started shooting with the vintage cameras, that I later realized were a combination of me and a camera that needed service. Now that I've gotten a little better at shooting and have the cameras in good nick, I'm keen to revisit Tri-X, particularly on 120, where I've seen some amazing shots by people like David Pauley. Sorry, I don't know what chemistry my friend up on Canada was using -- I'll try to ask next time I talk to him. I'd love to see what you shoot with Ortho 80, I'm also keen to revisit that when I have the right project for it (and some room in my film fridge) because I think those shots of the trees look amazing. I'm also curious how you're doing with the Fomapan 4x5 -- hoping it goes well for you! Best, s

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Gary Smith replied:

Comment posted: 26/08/2025

I shot HP5+ with the 6 x 6 Perkeo II but I sent it out to a lab. I'll probably do the next roll of 120 HP5 myself. It seems that having done sheet after sheet of the Fomapan, I got "back into" a rhythm and going into the garage to do some film is no longer the "special event" it was when I re-started doing it myself. There will be some examples of my 4 x 5 adventure coming up on 5 SEPT right here on 35mmc, stay tuned.

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Scott Ferguson replied:

Comment posted: 26/08/2025

Wonderful! Excited to see them in a week or so!

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Jeffery Luhn on In Search of Darkness and Light: Black & White Film Stocks, Part 5 – The Conclusion

Comment posted: 27/08/2025

Scott,
Thanks for the great photos and informative text. When looking at your photos on my big screen Mac, they all look good. Great compositions. The differences in grain and sharpness are only evident when I zoom in, and even then I don't see any examples that are objectionable. I'd really like to know which developers were used.
In my experience, I've found that sticking to one or two quality films is best for consistency. I change developers if I want a particular 'character' for one shooting condition or another. My first choice for medium format is HP5+ in HC-110 for general shooting. When the scenes are high contrast, I'll shoot at ISO 200 and use PYRO CMK to preserve highlights and deliver better shadow details. If I want a bit more speed and grain, Rodinal is my choice. These choices also apply to 4x5 HP5.
For 35mm I keep going back to Ilford XP2. Using C-41 is a bit tricky because of the high temperatures needed, but once that's dialed in, the process is fast, cheap, and consistent. Ilford FP4 in HC-110 also satisfies my needs for finer grain, but I'll be trying slower films in the future. I was a Panatomic X fan for years. It's hard to beat that film when shooting with strobes in the studio.
What I'm getting at is this: I really appreciate your work to present various film stocks. I read each submission a couple of times, but I didn't see a compelling reason to venture away from combinations I have dialed in over the years. Where is my lack of curiosity and adventure? Gone, I guess!
What I really want to know is what developers were used with all your films. Your results were superb with every film, and of course your camera choices alleviated any weirdness. PRAY TELL: WHAT DEVELOPERS WERE USED? Thank you in advance!!! Sincerely, Jeffery Luhn
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Ibraar Hussain replied:

Comment posted: 27/08/2025

Correct me if if wrong Scott - they were developed in a Lab. Whether on a machine or hand developed (as they do in metro imaging in London) I can’t remember reading in the previous articles from this series

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Scott Ferguson replied:

Comment posted: 27/08/2025

Hey Jeffery, First, thanks for the nice thoughts on the photos. My biggest screen is my laptop, and I'd love to see them on a bigger screen like a desktop Mac. Note: to fit onto the blog the images in the posts are downres'ed from the high res TIFF scans I get from the lab to JPG's which are a very small fraction of the digital size, so I'd be really curious to look at the full res scans on a big screen. As I said at the top of the post, I have nothing but respect for someone who really drills down into one stock and can get the creative results they are looking for that way, and you add really good points about doing that with the full workflow, including developer chemicals, etc. I think XP2 is an amazing stock and some of my favorite landscapes were done on that stock. Since getting back to NYC and doing more street and portrait shooting, my tastes have moved a little toward the Delta films -- I think they are a little 'warmer' for lack of a better word, and maybe a little more flattering for shooting people. While at this stage, I really like the range of options I discovered doing this post, so I think I'll be shooting a fair amount of those interesting Rollei stocks along with Tri-X and HP5 for the near future. As for the Developers, all of the NYC shots were done at a lab called Photo Life, which uses TMax developer. I have been impressed with the consistency and quality of their results, as well as the fast turnaround -- always within 24 hours, and frequently same day. Most of the Canadian shots were done at a friend's home lab, with the possible exception of the BOW LAKE GLACIER and BOW RIVER BANFF, which may have been done in NYC, either at Photo Life or Bleecker Digital (a 'pro' lab that costs about triple Photo Life.) Sorry to say, I don't know what developers my friend up in Calgary uses. I can try to ask him next time I talk to him. Cheers, s

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Scott Ferguson replied:

Comment posted: 27/08/2025

Yes Ibraar, I use a lab for everything, Photo Life in Brooklyn. As noted in my comment to Jeffery, they are very quick getting things turned around, getting me as many as 15 rolls (I tend to go to the lab once or twice a month) processed within 24 hours or even same day, so my guess is that they use a machine. But their results are consistently good and they managed to do well with all of these different stocks, so I think they have very skilled operators who are paying attention to what they are doing. I'm a big fan of Photo Life and will happy keep using them, at least until I'm ready to jump down the rabbit hole of doing my own processing.

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Jeffery Luhn replied:

Comment posted: 27/08/2025

Thanks for your reply. I have some Tmax film and developer at school that I've never used. I'll shoot a comparison with that and my normal HP5 and HC-110. I don't have the motivation to do your level of exploration, and that's why I've enjoyed your postings so much. As I mentioned before, your good eye and camera handling skills will make the best out of almost any combination. Please keep shooting and posting!! Jeffery

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Ibraar Hussain on In Search of Darkness and Light: Black & White Film Stocks, Part 5 – The Conclusion

Comment posted: 27/08/2025

What a great finish to what has been a fascinating and very enjoyable journey through your minds eye and insight into film and places I’ve no experience with. I must say your street portraits are brilliant.

I’d like to see you try the same film stocks with your own choice of developer as I presume you’re using a lab. You’ll be surprised at the control and consistency you’ll achieve with that.
I’m also curious to know of your ‘digital darkroom’ methods used after receiving the scans.
I’ve written up the September newsletter and had to feature your in search of darkness and light in it.

Finally I wanted to know whether years in the movie industry, cinema and contact with cinematographers has had a lot of impact on your vision and style ?

Thanks again my friend
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Scott Ferguson replied:

Comment posted: 27/08/2025

Thank you Ibraar! This series has been far more fun and interesting than I ever imagined when I hatched the idea chatting with Hamish. Admittedly, in the beginning I was kind of flying blind when I loaded a roll of film I'd never shot before and was frequently surprised by what came back from the lab, pleasantly more often than not! I don't know if I'd do the same kind of 'grand tour' once I move into doing my own processing, but I'm pretty sure I'll keep shooting a good range of the films I've 'discovered' here, including the Delta films, Tri-X & HP5, some of the Rollei films and Kentmere, so maybe we'll see something similar then. I have a few upcoming smaller projects, including a look at what happens when you push the 400 ISO color films and a comparison of Leica R vs. Leica M glass, but nothing as large and sweeping as this has been. I look forward to seeing the September newsletter! Certainly my background in cinema has had a huge influence on my approach to still photography, but interestingly, I think I might be more conscious of trying to evoke the mood and feel of paintings while I'm shooting than images from films I've seen. Possibly because painters before the 20th Century had access to similar lighting tools to what I have as a solo photographer, either the sun or smaller indoor light sources, compared to cinematographers who can use light in a much more controlled and 'constructed' way. And thank you so much for the kind words about the street portraits. Anyone who has followed this series has seen that aspect of my photography emerging and growing in real time as the series was written. I'm really excited to keep moving and learning in that direction and its a great gift of living in NYC that there is an endless supply of fascinating people! Thanks my friend, s

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Ibraar Hussain replied:

Comment posted: 27/08/2025

Thanks Scott! I’ve learned a lot from watching movies. With black and white I try and get the tones ive seen in old movies from the 50ies and 60ies - especially old Indian ones starring the late Guru Dutt. There are always rich blacks and the skin is always glowing, a sort of Noir ish look. I never get close but it’s a motivation. And with color the ektachrome I like echos the sort of color seen in films from the 90ies and before. And I keep a close eye on cinematographers camera work to grasp not only composition and subject placement but also feel. We used to piss around with old camcorders back in the early 90ies (then iphones ) all the way up to about 2010 making short films, great fun, it gave me opportunities to play with using my compositions in the frames and then mess around with tone and color afterwards when I first got a copy of Final Cut express many moons ago. Haven’t done anything since then as friends and family end up going their own way. Art and paintings I find to be a few levels above in terms of creativity and feel - and quite daunting! Hehe!! Thanks again

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Scott Ferguson replied:

Comment posted: 27/08/2025

Hey Ibraar, I love that you are so inspired by cinema! I would love to be able to shoot still photos that look like frames by people like Vittorio Storraro, Gregg Tolland, Guiseppi Rotunno, Slawomir Idziak, Christopher Doyle, or my friend Robert Elswit, but I think I feel about them the way you feel about art and paintings -- a little beyond reach! Part of what I love about shooting stills is how freeing it is to be doing something I can do solo and not being burdened with tons of gear and a large group of technicians that I am lucky enough to work with when I'm doing a film or tv show. Interestingly, a lot of the painters I find myself thinking about/or aspiring toward with my photography are Dutch, including Pieter Breughel, Vermeer, and Franz Hals. They are equally beyond reach as those great cinematographers, but somehow I don't mind thinking about them when I'm trying to shoot something... I forgot to respond to your question about my "digital darkroom" post workflow. I do my processing in batches, usually a week or two of shooting at a go. When the scans come back, I import everything into Lightroom where I will look through everything a couple of times to start to get a feel for the shots I like enough to try to work with vs the duds or 2nd tier shots that aren't as exciting for whatever reason. For the shots I like, I'll do a couple of 'slider' adjustments in Lightroom, usually I'll make pretty small adjustments usually down a little. I almost always boost the blacks sometimes quite a bit depending on how the scan looks. Depending on what is happening in the background of a photo, I might use the 'dehaze' tool in effects, and that's usually all I do. If I'm really reaching, I might fiddle with the contrast, highlights& shadows, as well as the whites, but more often than not, I can get a photo looking very good to me with a small amount of fiddling with exposure & blacks and hopefully judicious use of dehaze. All best, s

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Ibraar Hussain replied:

Comment posted: 27/08/2025

Thanks again man. With art, visiting galleries or even admiring work from people I know, I stand and admire, but for some reason I've never made the connection with photography - I guess it's a case of mistakenly (ignorantly and foolishly) believing that Photography is a lesser form of art and cannot be mentioned in the same sentence. All I think of is that I'd want to paint like that! I have had a few goes myself, I used to twat around with watercolors decades ago, and lately colour pencils but I'm seriously crap at it. I end up drawing/colouring my own version of what I see and the end result would need a few drops of acid or some shrooms to make sense out of! :)) Thanks for the insight into your post processing. I use an old obsolete version of Lighroom (v. 5) so limited, I tend to slide the 'dark' and the 'light' usually until the 'light' blows out - giving me a full range of values from 0/I to IX/X and pull the shadows if required. Then use the dodge burn method if required. It was easier in Photoshop but my old copy of CS 5 has long ceased to work.

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Leon Winnert on In Search of Darkness and Light: Black & White Film Stocks, Part 5 – The Conclusion

Comment posted: 27/08/2025

Hi Scott,

Great series, very informative and lots of great shots. Your results have given me some ideas for film stock to use. Back in the 80s I used the Tri-X / D76 combo. At that time an earlier everybody, all the names, were using that combo. It was the thing to do.

Not only that D76 had been made for Tri-X and was seen by most at the time as the perfect developer. Correct me if I wrong but I believe both were originally created for the motion picture industry.

Since I have reconnected with film photography I have been using HP5 and XP2. Quite satisfied with the results. HP5 developed in Ilfosol 3. Well that is what my Lab Technician tells me he uses. (BTW Lab Technician = my Son). Have not tried Tri-X since reconnecting. It’s a cost thing. A bit more expensive than HP5.

As I said at the start of this post you have given me some ideas. Namely Delta 400. Shot a couple of rolls pleasing results. Cheapest place I have found for purchasing it is Amazon £100 for 10 rolls. As a bulk buy deal.

The Iford Ortho looks really lovely. Will give that a go in the future. Just now am in the process of running a test roll of SFX200.
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Scott Ferguson replied:

Comment posted: 27/08/2025

Hey Leon, Thank you! I get excited when people tell me that they are planning to try a certain stock because they saw it in this series. I love it. I love Delta 400 -- that would probably be my 'desert island' film choice if I had to make one. I'm excited to try some more Ilford Ortho too, but have been trying to reduce the backlog of films in my fridge before buying too much more fresh film. I bought a bunch of XP2 in March because I was nervous about the tariffs making UK imports more expensive. Interesting that Tri-X is more expensive than HP5, over here they're pretty close -- Tri-X is about $1 cheaper per roll. I don't know about Tri-X or D76 as they may have been used for cinema or not -- unfortunately, for the kinds of projects I do, it's incredibly difficult to shoot black & white. My friends Steve Zaillian and Robert Elswit recently pulled it off with the Ripley series on Netflix and it's one of the best looking streaming shows I've ever seen -- highly recommended on all levels if you haven't seen it. I'm also not that 'tech' oriented that I get into the deep levels of chemistry for either still film or cinema (I might be if I had a Lab Technician.) I'm a little more focused on the creative side and how the results of the science and technology make me think and feel. Anyway, I look forward to seeing what you shoot on Delta 400 and Ortho 80! Best, s

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Leon Winnert replied:

Comment posted: 27/08/2025

In my origional comment, Lab Technician should hve been expressed in quotes " ". Irony. He does both of our films in his kitchen using tanks I donated to him. Science is not his forte. On the other hand art - - -

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Scott Ferguson replied:

Comment posted: 27/08/2025

Hey Leon, I was aware of the irony and perhaps should have used a wink emoticon in my comment - ;) My son doesn't do my labwork, but none of this would have happened with him being a nice guy and taking photo college. Because he is a nice guy, when he took photo in college the family of his best friend in high school gave him the extraordinary collection of cameras that got me into shooting film again. He's currently working at a camera rental house and is really learning how cinema cameras work. We're lucky, it's great having kids who are connected to us enough to be a part of the things we do for fun! Best, s

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