A Nagel Triumph camera

5 Frames with a camera from Before He Was Famous – The Triumph of Dr. Nagel.

By Richard Becker

These are from my second attempt to take pictures of snow scenes with this camera. On the first the snow was freshly fallen, and the light better, I had set the aperture to f/22 and used the film, closing the camera afterwards I noticed the aperture was now at f/6.3, aargh when did that happen? After the first frame apparently. I wanted to prove the camera was working so went back out with a roll of Pan F a couple of days later before the snow melted completely, checking the aperture before and after each exposure.

On first glance this 1931 Nagel Triumph is a typical basic 6X9 self-erecting folding camera from the early 1930’s, with a small triplet lens and a simple 3-speed plus Time and Bulb ever-set shutter combined with a freely moving aperture mechanism. And to the user that is what it is, closer inspection shows it to be a bit different, quirky, weird even.

A Nagel Triumph cameraThe camera opens on what appear to be a pair of struts either side, but watching them move during opening shows that there are really multiple struts, some moving in parallel with pivot points tracing complex shapes as they move. I keep watching them and still can’t fully decide how it all works, but the lens and bellows close neatly and evenly with none of the  strain put on the bellows that you see with some cameras.

The back is hinged on the long side and opens flat so it can be laid down for loading. A chamfered end to the spring-loaded film spool pivots allows the spools to just click into place, and releases them on opening the camera. Shutting the door prevents the springs from moving and locks the spools in position, a mechanism quite unlike any I have seen before on a 120 camera.

A Nagel Triumph cameraThe lens is remarkable, it doesn’t look much fitted into the shutter and (smooth-moving) aperture block but stopped down it is as good as one from almost any pre-war camera I have used, including my Tessar equipped Super-Ikonta. The tiny Nagel-made 105mm f/6.3 lens is bright and clear, if you look really closely the images it produces do go a little squidgy in the extreme corners, but nothing that is detrimental to the image. The shutter it’s self was possibly designed and made especially for Nagel by Gauthier.

On this day the snow was disappearing rapidly and I struggled to find compositions that matched those of my previous attempt. On that outing the snow was a complete blanket on the ground and covering the trees as well. In my mind the photos from the first film were going to be of abstract black scratches, shapes of trees and branches on a otherwise blank canvas. And possibly they were, just obscured by 4 stops of over-exposure on top of the deliberate over-exposure I had already factored in.

A photo of a woodland snow scene.

A photo of a woodland snow scene.A photo of a woodland snow scene.A photo of a woodland snow scene.A photo of a woodland snow scene.All these were taken on ‘B’ with exposures from 1 to 4 seconds. On a brighter day with fast film I could try the automatic shutter, but only 2 speeds can be selected at the moment and I’m not sure what they are or if they are even different. I have had the camera apart to repair the aperture diaphragm, there are 9 blades and after an afternoon reassembling them I had had enough and decided to leave the shutter alone. Aperture moves easily though.

Another Otherwise Unwanted Camera, this one is № 11.

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By Richard Becker
Farmer, photographer and naturalist. Living in Wales. Website; www.richardbeckerphotography.co.uk
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Christian on 5 Frames with a camera from Before He Was Famous – The Triumph of Dr. Nagel.

Comment posted: 07/01/2025

What a cool historic camera! I have a "Nagel built" Kodak Retina IIIc. They truely built solid cameras back in the days, though I never had a
pre-war old camera... The pictures look quite ok for that kind of camera/lens/shutter.
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Steve Kotajarvi on 5 Frames with a camera from Before He Was Famous – The Triumph of Dr. Nagel.

Comment posted: 07/01/2025

Lovely photos and I'm glad you mentioned the shutter setup you used. I have a Bessa 6x9 I've been meaning to try and this has been in the back of my mind.
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Jeffery Luhn on 5 Frames with a camera from Before He Was Famous – The Triumph of Dr. Nagel.

Comment posted: 07/01/2025

Richard,
Snow is difficult to capture!!! It can look blank white with no texture or muddy gray, but rarely as clean as it is in your shots. Very nice composition and control. Are you printing these, or scanning them? Do you do your own processing?

I have many folding cameras and have been amazed at the sharpness when they are stopped down to the sweet spot of f/11 or f/16. My Kodak Model #1 is a similar vintage and style as yours. Mine is as close to mint as I've ever seen. Apertures F/6.3 through f/32. Working shutter with T,B, 25, 50,100. Not sure about the accuracy because I too shot only on B. I haven't taken the lens apart, so I don't know the formula, but a triplet seems logical. My results have been reasonably sharp, but not as good as my Zeiss Ikonta 6x9.

There is something exciting about getting decent photos from these very old cameras. My great uncle was a professional photographer in San Francisco from 1905 through 1940. He also owned a couple of big camera stores. The contact prints he left are tack sharp! Sadly, the negatives were lost. Great family history of around 100 photos.

Please keep shooting and posting. Your material is very interesting!
Jeffery
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Richard Becker replied:

Comment posted: 07/01/2025

Hi Jeffery Pan F - I developed in Fomadon R09 (Rodinal) 1+25 for 5 1/2 minutes. None of this stand development nonsense, I want Black and White images, not grey, greyer and even greyer. The negatives look great on their own, then scanned (Epson V600) and minor adjustments with curves. Then as you see them. I have a few other 6X9 from around the same time apart from a couple (Zeiss!) the lenses are nowhere near as good. A Wirgin Presto and an Orion Werk have wide aperture Rodenstock lenses and are frankly quite disappointing compared to the Nagel. These cameras I am sure were really made for use on bulb, with or without flash, when would you be able to use 1/100th or even 1/25th with ISO 10 film? Richard

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Jeffery Luhn replied:

Comment posted: 07/01/2025

Who would need 100th back then? Nobody in 1920. But in 1930 films were improving. I've done some reading on old 626 and 620 films from 1930, mostly in old copies of Kodakery magazine that published exposure suggestions for films. They mention the Weston scale. With Super xx film the Weston scale was 36. Not ASA or ISO, of course. They suggested a shutter speed of 1/25 at F/16 for full bright sun. That could equate to 1/100th at F/6.8 or F/8 at 1/100th in 1930.

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Richard Becker replied:

Comment posted: 07/01/2025

36 on the Weston scale is I think about 50 ISO. So useable with care at f/8 and 1/100th. Though I doubt if it really was 50 ISO but balanced by the 1/100th stated on the shutter being unlikely to be anywhere near that fast either. The words 'creative' and 'optimistic' crop up quite frequently relating to makers claims around film speeds and camera shutters from the time. Mind you 1/100th at f/8 and 50 ISO film equals an EV of 12 or 13, you might get there in California, but I can't remember the last time I managed those settings in Wales. I would consider it quite bright if with 400 ISO film I got to 1/30th at f/8.

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Jeffery Luhn replied:

Comment posted: 07/01/2025

Richard, I forgot to ask you: What's your source/method for film for the old cameras? My recently acquired Kodak #1 uses 616 film. The red window does not line up with the numbers on the paper backing of 120 film. I do have the skinny metal film reel, so I can re-spool 120 film onto it. Any tips? Thanks, Jeffery

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Richard Becker replied:

Comment posted: 07/01/2025

Jeffrey The only one that I am using that is not 120 is the Kodak autographic 3. I use a Camerahack 118 to 120 adapter available in the UK from Analogue Wonderland. Camerhack also does a 616 adapter. To get around the no red window winding issue I put in a dud 120 film and then marked the position of the winder for each frame directly on the camera. Easier to do than explain, I will email you the crib sheet I carry with the camera. Richard

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Ed Currie on 5 Frames with a camera from Before He Was Famous – The Triumph of Dr. Nagel.

Comment posted: 07/01/2025

Hi Richard, Excellent photographs and interesting post. I have a dozen or so of these early vest pocket cameras of many different manufacturers and all produce good results. The earliest I have is a 1914 Rodenstock which has a unique sytem for loading the 120 film, I may do a post about it in the future. As to the f stop resetting itself, I had a similat problem with one of mine. I solved it by placing a small piece of Blu Tack over the setting pointer to the f stop I wanted, ergo the pointer does not move but the Blu Tack is easily removable when you need to reset the f stop and the Blu Tack can then be reused. Hope that helps.
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Richard Becker replied:

Comment posted: 07/01/2025

Thanks for the tip, I had been wondering what I could use to hold the aperture as set. I hadn't considered Blu Tack. Richard

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Dave Powell on 5 Frames with a camera from Before He Was Famous – The Triumph of Dr. Nagel.

Comment posted: 08/01/2025

Lovely and surprising images, Richard! I cherish my Retina IIa... a beautiful machine.
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Zheng Li on 5 Frames with a camera from Before He Was Famous – The Triumph of Dr. Nagel.

Comment posted: 08/01/2025

Dr. Nagel is a design genius, and thanks for paying tribute to him. I have a few of his early Vollenda (127, 620) cameras as well as later Retina's for Kodak. They are elegant, simple, efficient, compact, and reliable. The other more famous German brands sometimes got a bit too clever and veered towards complexity. Not Dr. Nagel's.
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Paul Quellin on 5 Frames with a camera from Before He Was Famous – The Triumph of Dr. Nagel.

Comment posted: 08/01/2025

I am a big fan of Nagel's output with a fleet of Retinette's and 2 Retinas. I found the article encouraging as I have a film in a Kodak No.2 folding Brownie Autographic, of a similar vintage, just now. If it can produce anything approaching your images, I'll be very happy. With the Kodak, some of the text for the speeds is very small and for the aperture settings, so small I would need my loupe to read it. It all makes for a little guess work, as sunny 16 becomes meaningless if you don't really know what the aperture setting is. Enjoying using it though.
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Richard Becker replied:

Comment posted: 08/01/2025

If it is anything like my Autographic Kodak it doesn't make much difference what speed is set on the camera, they (all 3) seem about the same! As you say a guess on exposure, and also a film with wide latitude seems the way to a useable result.

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