Shooting Leica Rangefinder Cameras with Third-Party Lenses is not a Crime!

By Hamish Gill

There’s an odd misconception about the use of Leica cameras that I often get challenged with – especially on social media. As someone who frequently uses 3rd-party lenses on my Leica cameras, and posts photos of them on my Instagram, I’m often told that what I am doing is somehow wrong. Apparently, the only reason to shoot a Leica camera is to give the photographer the ability to shoot with Leica lenses. Case in point, I recently posted a photo of a Leica M6 with a Voigtlander 35mm f/1.4 lens mounted and I was told: “Putting a Voigtlander lens on a M6 is like driving a Ferrari with retread tires”.

Personally, I really can’t get my head around where this idea comes from, and, to be frank, pretty much think it’s a load of nonsense. As such, I thought I’d pick this perspective apart a bit, as well as hopefully explaining why I think that it’s an entirely illogical conclusion to come to!

My personal preferences

I guess the place to start is to first explain my feelings toward Leica brand cameras and lenses. If you’re new to this website, you might not be aware that I’m a massive fan of Leica rangefinder cameras. They are, to me, the absolute peak of camera design!

Now, just for clarity, let me say that I don’t think they are the best cameras ever made, or that everyone should own and shoot them, or that they take better photos than other cameras. I’m well aware of their flaws; I’ve shot most of them now, so I know what about them works, and indeed what doesn’t.

All I’m saying is that, for me, and the way I use cameras, they do work – in fact, they suit me down to the ground. They’re small, they have a simple interface which I appreciate a great deal, they are rangefinders – which work better for me than SLRs – and I’d even add to those pros by saying I like the way they look. Call me shallow if you like, I don’t care! As a photographer, I think I’m well within my rights to appreciate the things in front of my eyes based on their aesthetic appeal!

As for the lenses though, I’m not so smitten. It’s not that I don’t like them, in fact I’ve had a lot of appreciation for all of the Leica lenses I’ve shot for one reason or another. They just don’t ever give me what I want from a lens that I can’t find elsewhere. In fact, more often than not, what I find elsewhere costs less money, and I like what I find slightly more.

But, before I get to some some of the realities of Leica lenses, I just want to touch on the odd fact that this sort of ideal doesn’t really exist in other brands – at least not to the same extent. What compounds the oddness here is that it would actually make more sense in some other brands.

Camera choice

For example, if someone were to purchase a Nikon SLR film camera, just to access the Nikkor lens range, I don’t think it would seem particularly unusual. This is primarily because to shoot a Nikon lens and retain full functionality, ideally a Nikon camera is required.

Things are different with Leica rangefinder cameras because their lens mounts are so universal. Many brands over the years have made lenses that fit Leica cameras too. In fact, Canon, Nikon, Zeiss, Voigtlander, Minolta, Konica, Fuji, Olympus and many more, have all at some point in their history made lenses that will – without compromise to functionality – work perfectly on the Leica mount camera systems.

Not only this, but many if not most of these brands have also made cameras that take advantage of the Leica lens mounts, meaning it’s just as viable for someone to buy a Leica camera just to shoot a Konica lens as it is valid to buy Konica camera just to shoot a Leica lens.

My M-Mount Konica Hexar with the only Leica lens I currently own – a Leica thread mount 50mm Elmar

With Leica mount kit, it all comes down to subjective preferences for both camera and lens, but since the lens mounts are the same – and there’s no compromise to functionality with either combination – the choices made can be for subjective preferences for either or both camera and lens, and not just for technical compatibility.

Lens choices – by objective measures

So what about the arguments made that Leica lenses have always been objectively better? Well, given the fact that the likes of Voigtlander and Zeiss (all be it largely via Cosina) still make Leica Mount lenses today, and the fact that even very old Leica lenses demand a significant premium on the used market, there’s a good chance there’s a third-party lens that offers objectively more than what an equivalent Leica lens does at the same price point.

For example, if you’ve just bought a Leica M6 for £1200, and you want 50mm lens for it and have a budget of up to £800 to keep your total spend less than £2k, you could buy a brand new Zeiss 50mm f/2 Planar, a Voigtlander 50 f/1.2 or f/1.5 Nokton. Or you could buy a 1970’s version 3 Summicron – a great lens in its own right, but the modern third-party alternatives are – objectively speaking – better lenses (sharper, less flare, etc).

If you want a new, or at least modern Leica lens, you need to push that budget to at least £1000, if not more. A new 50mm Summicron will set you back £2000, and bring you very little, if any, objective advantage over the Zeiss Planar. And if you want something that’s as fast as some of the third-party lenses I’ve just mentioned, well you’re not likely to get much change from at least £2500, and that’s on the used market. In short, if you buy a Leica camera and want the best bang for buck in terms of your image quality, you’re probably better off buying a non-Leica lens.

Of course, for some, money is no problem. But even without the financial boundaries to entry, the third party alternatives from Zeiss, for example, often offer something that’s simply “different” rather than “worse” – and are sometimes in fact “better”. The Zeiss 35mm f/1.4 ZM for example is reputed to be sharper into the corners and have a flatter field than the Leica 35mm f/1.4 Summilux. The compromise being that it’s a bigger lens.

Hereford & Wales day out
Taken with a Zeiss 35mm f/1.4 ZM lens on a Konica Hexar RF

That said, it is fair to say that there are a couple of Leica lenses that are objectively “better” and offer something other lenses for the system don’t, at any price point. Take for example the Leica 50mm f/2 APO-Summicron – a snip at just clear of £6000. As great as I’m sure that lens is though, it seems to be designed for digital cameras, with one of its key selling points being good control over colour-aberrations on digital sensors. In short, you’d have to be looking pretty damned close to see any advantage over the Zeiss Planar if shooting one with a Leica M6 film camera.

Lens choices – by subjective measures

So maybe then the argument isn’t really an objective one, maybe it’s all all about the subjective quality of Leica lenses. It’s hard to argue that Walter Mandlers’ Leica lenses from the 1970’s don’t have a wonderful optical qualities. I loved my version 3 and 4 Summicrons, when I owned them, and got some great results too!

First shots with 50mm v4 Summicron
One of my favourite pictures taken with a Summicron – note the odd bokeh on the wheel in the background…

But, if it comes down to subjective preferences, why is it not just as viable that I’d have a subjective preference for a Zeiss or a Voigtlander lens? I do, in fact, prefer my ZM Sonnar to the 50mm Summicron that I owned prior to it.

Of course, there are some people out there who wax lyrical about the wonderful character traits of all Leica lenses. More power to them, if that’s what they like, thats fine by me. You won’t find me questioning other people’s subjective preferences when it comes to any lens – even ones that cost a great deal more, and to my eye aren’t as “good” as the ones I like. Because… it’s subjective!

Subjectively speaking, I think Zeiss lenses are better than Leica lenses. And suggesting I am wrong would be no different to suggesting I am wrong to prefer brown bread to white – it’s just personal taste!

50mm ZM Sonnar mounted on a Leica M10-P

It’s the outcome that counts

Of course, when comparing the likes of Zeiss and Leica, what’s subjective and what’s objective in terms of the ideas about what makes a lens “good” can blur. Both of these brands produce lenses that are designed to be optically optimal within the scope of the particular series of compromises they are designed. In photographers seeking to shoot with lenses like these – at least in most cases – there is likely some desire for high quality optics and results without aberrations.

But, not all photographers want high quality optics. Because lens choice is so subjective, it’s entirely viable that some photographers might find the most joy mounting the least expensive, lowest quality lenses to the most expensive Leica camera. The fact is, “good” photography is not simply about “good” optics.

I might think that Zeiss lenses are “better” than Leica lenses, but this doesn’t preclude me from a potential desire to shoot lenses that I know are “worse” once in a while. As I go to great pains to explain in my post about what defines the perfect lens, what counts is the end result – especially when considering that everything prior to the end result is meaningless to the third-party observer of a photo.

I for one, have a great deal of love for the Russian Sonnar-knockoff lens, the Jupiter-8M. A lens, that given the right light, has a wonderful propensity toward gentle rendering and flare:

Family snap
Taken with a Leica Monochrom and Jupiter-8M converted to ltm

Of course, I accept that the way that the image above looks might not to be everyone’s taste. But the point is, I like the way it looks, and it’s a look I achieved using a very inexpensive lens on a fairly expensive Leica. I might have been able to produce a similar look with Leitz lens of some sort – maybe an and 50mm Summarit for example – but would it be any more valid an image? Would my wife appreciate the image of our daughter more had I spent more money on the lens I took it with? Of course not, that’d be ludicrous – my wife doesn’t give a shit about the camera or lens I took the photo with, she just likes photos of her babies.

Affordability

Finally, once again touching on the subject of money, I just want to make a point in favour of those who do have a desire to shoot Leica lenses, for whatever reason, but can’t yet afford to.

A lot of what I’ve talked about in this post comes down to people with elitist attitudes sneering at people based on myopic ideals about how other people should do things. This is bad enough in the context of the arguments above, but it’s worst in the context of the affordability of Leica products.

Leica kit is expensive, but that doesn’t mean people with less resources shouldn’t be allowed to own it. If someone wants to buy a Leica camera, and then shoot it with a Voigtlander lens until they can afford a Leica lens, they are well within their rights to do so without people questioning them for any reason.

The image that resulted in the offending comment

Now, to be fair, I don’t think the chap on Instagram that I highlighted at the top of this post was having a go at people who can’t afford to put Leica lenses on their Leica cameras. But, if you take his his opinion in the context of affordability… Well, to me, that sort of opinion leaves a funny taste in my mouth! In what world do we live it where it’s ok to look upon people with less financial resources and regard them with such disdain?!

In conclusion…

What makes a camera or lens right for the individual is, of course, down to the individual. There are many factors that determine the choices an individual might make about what camera or lens they choose to shoot – from price point, to potential image qualities, and everything in between.

It is therefore perfectly valid to buy a Leica just to gain the ability to shoot Leica lenses. What is not valid, is then claiming that everyone else should do the same! Photography is far too rich with creative options and possibilities to be so blinkered and narrow minded as this!

Ultimately, If you want to shoot a £2 lens on a £6500 Leica, then fill your boots, I say! It’s not a crime, and never will be – despite what some of the elitist morons on the internet might think!

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By Hamish Gill
I started taking photos at the age of 9. Since then I've taken photos for a hobby, sold cameras for a living, and for a little more than decade I've been a professional photographer and, of course, weekly contributor to 35mmc.
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Rob Kent (jazzycamel) on Shooting Leica Rangefinder Cameras with Third-Party Lenses is not a Crime!

Comment posted: 15/04/2019

Couldn't agree more! Currently shooting the 1st roll of film in my very first Leica (IIIc). Due to my relatively impoverished state, I am using an Industar-61 (53mm, f/2.8 version) as I've shot this lens on both a FED4 and a Zorki 4K and it performed very well (the cameras didn't do so well!). Until I can find an affordable alternative (or win the lottery!), I shall happily continue with this heathen pairing!
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Hamish Gill replied:

Comment posted: 15/04/2019

The Industar-61 is a cracking little lens! Good work on your entry into the would of Leica! Don’t forget, you’re now entitled to view all other cameras and photographers as inferior now. If you tilt your head back, you should find you can look down your nose in their direction. It feels odd to start with, but you’ll get used to it once the power of the Leica camera starts entering your blood stream

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Bob Visalia replied:

Comment posted: 15/04/2019

I agree 100% Lenses from a variety of makers can often be the best one for what you desire photographically. I've owned an M3 with a 50mm Summicron, but when I needed a 90mm portrait lens, I would use my Pentax MX with a Vivitar Series One in 90mm that I doubt any Leica lens of the same length could compete with it.

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Jerry Scoby replied:

Comment posted: 15/04/2019

I have owned the Vivitar Series 1 90mm 1:2.5 Macro since it was introduced in the 1970's. I won't part with it. It works for me on film or digital. I especially on my Nikon EL2. Wonderful lens!

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Steve on Shooting Leica Rangefinder Cameras with Third-Party Lenses is not a Crime!

Comment posted: 15/04/2019

Absolutely nailed it. ..exactly how I feel.
I've been lucky and not run into too much lens snobbery...but I like what works for me and an old enough to not really care what others think of my lens choices..
Owning Leica lenses should never be a barrier to owning a Leica....
I've recently after years with NIkons SLRs picked up a Leica M2 which was sub £600.
I did find a Summitar 5cm f2, with bags of character for only £150 ...but have no desire to spend a small fortune on anymore Leica glass.
I've shot and developed ten rolls since I got the M2 a few months ago, using a jupiter 8 (50mm) and a jupiter 12 (35mm) as well as the Summitar taking photos of my two little ones on family holidays etc.. and love photos I'm getting with Trix 400.
I think the reason to get a Leica is because it has such a wide selection of lenses.
All my lenses are screw mount adapted to M and picking up these old russian lenses is all part of the joy of Leica M ownership I reckon.

Steve
https://www.instagram.com/stevenamyah/
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Adrian Rose on Shooting Leica Rangefinder Cameras with Third-Party Lenses is not a Crime!

Comment posted: 15/04/2019

Hi Hamish, I totally agree with you, and it's similar to your recent topic regarding software adjustments of analogue film images (and your choice for what kind of packaging to procure for pixl-latr:-)). It's your money, and up to you how you have fun with the photographic equipment and tools that you have. I think it's reasonable to state "personally I wouldn't do that because...", but definitely not acceptable to criticise others for having a different view or different financial capability. For most of us this is a hobby and should be fun. Criticism is good if offered with respect and constructively. Sadly the internet is full of bullies writing things they probably would not say in person.
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Steve Ember on Shooting Leica Rangefinder Cameras with Third-Party Lenses is not a Crime!

Comment posted: 15/04/2019

Very eloquently expressed, Hamish. And thanks - especially - for that last sentence. Pithy - and dead-on accurate.
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Ian Dean on Shooting Leica Rangefinder Cameras with Third-Party Lenses is not a Crime!

Comment posted: 15/04/2019

The Ferrari analogy says it all - the camera world is dominated by people who think, as you say, 'it’s ok to look upon people with less financial resources and regard them with such disdain?!' Thank you for an always stimulating array of images and equipment commentary. Leica is the setup I know best, because it suits the way I make photographs, with a range of great lenses from various makers, including varieties of pinhole!
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Mr. Nigel Vernon on Shooting Leica Rangefinder Cameras with Third-Party Lenses is not a Crime!

Comment posted: 15/04/2019

Anyone put a Fuji X lens on Leica M, or is it not possible?
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Alan S Chin replied:

Comment posted: 15/04/2019

Not possible in real world use for following reasons : 1) flange distance. Fuji x being mirrorless design is less than Leica,by about 7 mm. No Fuji less will reach infinity or even 10 feet. Super macro only, if that. ( Not that I've tried) 2) sensor size / coverage : Fuji lenses designed for aps-c sensor size, not full frame. Images would vignette severely. 3) electronic controls for aperture and focus -- although most fuji lenses have analog looking aperture ring and focusing ring, these do not physically control lens, they only transmit electronic commands for the relevant things to happen. A Fuji lens mounted on no Fuji camera becomes a dead optic with focus stuck at one point and aperture also. The other way around, mounting Leica lenses on Fuji x , is easy.

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Terry B replied:

Comment posted: 15/04/2019

Nigel, not possible. The flange distance of the M mount is too great, there's about 10mm difference. But, a Leica lens on a Fuji X works wonderfully well. The Fuji, not having an AA filter, will draw the utmost from the lens. At the risk of receiving a broadside, I love the X-trans.

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Sroyon on Shooting Leica Rangefinder Cameras with Third-Party Lenses is not a Crime!

Comment posted: 15/04/2019

As someone who uses a Leica camera with one Voigtländer (28) and two Leica lenses (50 and 135, which for various reasons were in fact cheaper than the Voigtländer), I couldn't agree more. I suspect there's an element of validation-seeking in some of the comments you referred to. People spend a lot of money on Leica glass, and when they see others happily using third-party lenses, perhaps they feel it undermines their choices.

Having said that, on photography forums I also see an element of anti-Leica reverse snobbery, which I find as questionable as blind-faith Leica cultism.

A related dogma which I sometimes encounter on forums is that a camera is just a light-tight box, and it's all about the lens. I get the logic, and strictly speaking, as long as the camera is otherwise functional, it is the lens which forms the image and determines how it looks. But at least for me, photography (and by extension, camera and lens choices) is not all about the final image. The pleasure of using a beautifully-crafted piece of machinery is also a big part of it. It's easy to underestimate the importance of the camera body.
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Nick Lyle replied:

Comment posted: 15/04/2019

It is not possible. Fuji X lenses do not function without electronic linkage to a Fuji X camera, and in addition the flange-back distance of the Fuji system is shorter than that of Leica. You can use LM lenses on a FujiX camera though.

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Charles Morgan on Shooting Leica Rangefinder Cameras with Third-Party Lenses is not a Crime!

Comment posted: 15/04/2019

I shoot Leica (both M and LTM), Voigtlander and Zeiss lenses on my Leicas. I shoot exclusively Leica glass on my Leica R7 solely for the reason in the focal lengths I want there are no alternatives. I am quite certain that soon I'll also shoot Jupiter and other lenses on my Leica III to see what they offer too. Whatever suits you best as a photographer is the best lens to use. I slightly prefer Leica to Zeiss but ultimately it's pointless to worry about what other people think, they aren't the ones taking your photographs for you!
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BONNIN (Jean-François) on Shooting Leica Rangefinder Cameras with Third-Party Lenses is not a Crime!

Comment posted: 15/04/2019

My Leica M4P (Canada) is still going on with a 35 mm Summicron (Canada), and my remaining 50 mm is....an Industar (excellent; cost me about 35 euros); I also purchased 5 years ago a 90 mm Rokkor-M (not very fast but as good as a former Leitz 90 mm).
Due to another G.A.S secondary tremor, my next purchase is likely to be a Voigtlander 75 mm.
I am not intending to be judged by any Photographic Police for treason.
Best regards, make great photos, enjoy !
JF Bonnin
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John Falloon replied:

Comment posted: 15/04/2019

I have the 75 mm CV Classic Heliar 1.8 - superb lens

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JamesW on Shooting Leica Rangefinder Cameras with Third-Party Lenses is not a Crime!

Comment posted: 15/04/2019

We'll find anything to argue about, won't we? I ride motorbikes, and acknowledge other riders on the road. Don't ever expect a Harley rider to nod to you - unless you're on another Harley. Canon/Nikon, film/digital, Leica/non-Leica glass. I've seen some awful images taken on screamingly expensive kit (you paid HOW MUCH for a camera?) and images that have made me weep that were taken on the cheapest naffest budget quality box.
I enjoy playing with cameras, from 35mm to ULF cameras. It's part of the fun, and I use them to enjoy MYself. I could never decide for anyone else how they should enjoy themselves......
I bought/made them, I play how I want to, and if you don't like it, you don't have to play the way I do. They're my toys, not yours. Now off you go and have your fun. It's better to spend time enjoying yourself than it is to spend time looking an idiot by telling me how to enjoy myself.
Right. I'm off to stick my head under a blanket to expose a sheet of 10X8 FP4 using a 60 year old lens with a pneumatic shutter.
You have your fun, I have mine.
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Flavio Colker on Shooting Leica Rangefinder Cameras with Third-Party Lenses is not a Crime!

Comment posted: 15/04/2019

Who cares about lenses or cameras? It´s about subject, light and composition.
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Tom Sheppard on Shooting Leica Rangefinder Cameras with Third-Party Lenses is not a Crime!

Comment posted: 15/04/2019

Hamish, I could not agree with you more.
Those of us who like to make images in the fashion in which we like to make them, will use whatever we have found to be the tools that allow us to create accordingly.
Too often I see the postings of elitists that contain nothing more than images of the cameras that they own.
It seems that they regard ownership of an expensive camera as an end in itself, rather than as a tool for allowing their image making to soar.
Now, if that ownership opens a door to creative image-making, then more power to them. But if it is simply another "look at me" moment, then all I can feel is pity.
Go make some images people, and be gladdened by the process.
Tom Sheppard
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Crispin on Shooting Leica Rangefinder Cameras with Third-Party Lenses is not a Crime!

Comment posted: 15/04/2019

I think the real fault of your actions, is to post on Instasham. With their new censorship policy for 'questionable' material, I'm unclear as to why anyone would want to continue using it.
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Nick Lyle on Shooting Leica Rangefinder Cameras with Third-Party Lenses is not a Crime!

Comment posted: 15/04/2019

When I heard the Ferrari with retread tires analogy mentioned above I had the same reaction as you did Hamish, and the analogy is a poor one for other reasons as well. I still have not been willing to pony up the dough for my first Leica camera to use with my Cosina-Voigtlander lenses and my Jupiter 8. For now I am quite happy with a couple of Cosina made Leica-mount rangefinder bodies. The Voigtlander bodies are even arguably “better” than some Leica film bodies from a functional perspective, though the Leica options are usually “nicer” to use in other respects, with subjectively more pleasing mechanical qualities. Anyhow, it seems to me that lenses have more to do with outcomes than bodies do, so the analogy ought to be inverted, with the Ferrari representing a lens and the tires standing in for a camera. The Leica bodies are better made, but it is the lens that matters most to the results. Even with retreads on it the Ferrari will beat that VW wearing racing tires. Finally, Ferraris and Cameras with red dots on are used as social signifiers, and in this sense the analogy does hold up. These power symbols only stand up to scrutiny by fellow snobs with the correct accessories attached.
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BC on Shooting Leica Rangefinder Cameras with Third-Party Lenses is not a Crime!

Comment posted: 15/04/2019

I must plead guilty for having bought my first (used if not battered) Leica (M2) in order to have access to Leica lenses. After all Leitz is a lens-maker first. I had also just had a compelling demonstration by a friend of mine that had lent me his M6 lenses and challenged me to take exactly the same photographs with it and my Nikon (and print them with the same enlarger on the same paper). His point was that he could tell the difference. He did and I could not (which does not mean he was wrong, simply that I was less experienced than he was). I never regretted buying my almost new 35 mm summicron from a friend who had bought it new a year before. Since then I have also used Zeisses and Voigtlanders, even 7 Artisans. All these brands produce very decent lenses, Zeiss being the best. However there have been times when I needed the corners of my photographs to be reasonably sharp, not to have to correct vignetting at full aperture (and sometimes funny colors) in the corners, shoot with a light source in the frame without bad flare, distorsion with a 35 or 28 mm reasonably handled. And there without discussion the Leica lenses shone. Now do we need this for every photograph we take, certainly not. Sometimes a little softness even helps (in this hard world). And Hamish your portrait of the small boy is a example. But the day one needs to bring back the right pictures without blaming one's equipment for just adequate results (and if one is a professional it is quite essential although one does not have to be a professional to recognize quality when one sees it), the day when one is in the presence of a unique moment and wants to capture it without regretting it could have been done better with a better lens. Why refuse quality? Cannot anyone that can do the most do the least? Isn't getting quality when one needs it impossible with a mediocre or average lens? The only valid argument, in my mind, is the financial one. Of course the experienced and creative person will do better with any equipment than a clueless one with the best equipment possible. But why not give the good stuff to the good person too to make the comparison fair? The choice of a lens is not that "subjective" it has to be the right tool for the right task and a quality lens is more likely to work in a greater variety of situations (one can always put a bad filter in front of a good lens if one desires softness but there is nothing one can put in front of a mediocre lens to make it work better). AS for the financial aspect of things mentioned earlier, my experience has been that buying an average lens because of my financial situation had several negative consequences: 1-I ended up buying the better one I wanted in the first place, so the first one did not prevent me from spending that money BUT for a few years I photographed with an average lens and in some situation it shows and now I cannot even think of using these negatives so it ended up being a waste of my money, a waste of my time, a waste for my photography. Since that first experience I have either waited until I could afford what I needed/wanted, or simply have stopped thinking I needed that tool if it were not an absolute necessity or simply used my credit card and even if I ended up paying slightly more if I missed a payment, all that time I was working with the right lens without any regret or second thought. That peace of mind, as far as I am concerned, is priceless. The end word is still perfectly captured by quoting Hamish: "The fact is, “good” photography is not simply about “good” optics." Agreed 100%,... but in many ways good optics help guarantee the quality of the results and the versatility of our tools, "bad" (as a counterpoint to "good") lenses do not.
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Hamish Gill replied:

Comment posted: 15/04/2019

There are some Zeiss lenses that are objectively better, and many that are as good a Leica lenses. I rely on my zeiss lenses when I want to not be let down, and never am. In fact, I would be surprised if I found myself let down by the new Voigtlander 50mm 1.2. In fact, I recently shot professionally using it, and know I wouldn’t have had any advantage in shooting a Leica lens instead. None of these lenses are anything short of the quality I need for my work, personal or professional. I’ve shot a good few modern Leica lenses too, and didn’t find they offered any more than my Zeiss lenses. Also, putting a “bad filter” on a good lens doesn’t necessarily create the look I might want to achieve. It just creates the look of a “bad filter” on a good lens. Have a read of my post about defining the perfect lens for more on this - I suspect we simply don’t talk the same language here, but hopefully that post will give you a little more insight into my thinking here

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Kurt Ingham on Shooting Leica Rangefinder Cameras with Third-Party Lenses is not a Crime!

Comment posted: 15/04/2019

Certainly 'elitist moron' has a nice ring to it, but I still prefer the classic 'running dog imperialist lackey'. Leica stuff is great, but the prices attract a group who couldn't take a good picture to save their lives (soon to be a reality show from a major producer). Thanks for the article!
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George Appletree on Shooting Leica Rangefinder Cameras with Third-Party Lenses is not a Crime!

Comment posted: 15/04/2019

I think the reasoning is like smoking a cigarette without rolling paper. I mean, adoring and at the time ignoring Leica products. The main reason to not buying a Noctilux is really it's 11.000 priced.
That said, yes I sold my perfect Summicron, I refused the idea of a nearly 1 kilogram M10 when having a lightweight Fuji hanging from my neck. And at the end perceiving the arrogance of some Leica sellers and fans. And, to be honest, I finally bought another Leica camera (and lens), after a period of deep disappointment about the brand.
Obviously I happily keep a Voigtlander M mount lens
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Terry B on Shooting Leica Rangefinder Cameras with Third-Party Lenses is not a Crime!

Comment posted: 15/04/2019

It's not a crime? Thank god for that, Hamish. Now no need to keep ducking into side streets whenever I see a patrolling policeman or area car, and then furtively peering around the corner to see if it was safe to come out.
Interesting topic. I feel it was easier to assess a lens' characteristics using a slide film. I could see that my K25/64 and Ektachromes all looked slightly different depending upon which make lens I had used, and up until the point where I saw an expert nature photographer's original K25 shots using his Leica R4 and lenses, I just accepted this. But his K25/Leica slides opened my eyes, literally. They were so clean, it was though a veil had been lifted. As we both used K25, the difference could only be down to the lenses. That was it. My Nikon gear helped, only a little, to finance a demo, but mint, R3 and 3 new lenses, a 50 f2 Summicron and 28 and 90 Elmarits.
I wouldn't argue that the Leica lenses were sharper, but what I saw in how they rendered an image was far more to my liking. I suspect it was the same thing that you look for in a lens.
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Hamish Gill replied:

Comment posted: 15/04/2019

Sounds a bit like how I feel about Zeiss lenses. The results just look right to me. The recent experience with the 35mm 1.4 zm really reminded me of that fact!

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George Feucht on Shooting Leica Rangefinder Cameras with Third-Party Lenses is not a Crime!

Comment posted: 15/04/2019

I fully agree. Initially, I bought some "cheaper" lenses to round out my focal length variety and planned to eventually upgrade. I enjoyed the rendering/sharpness of my (LTM) Voigtländer 35mm f1.7, but the .9M close focus was frequently tripping me up, so I decided to "upgrade" to a 35 Summicron ASPH. Plus, I would be amazed at the so-much-better image quality of the Summicron!

After testing 3 different samples of used 35mm Summicron ASPH (purchase contenders or just borrowed from friends), I found that my old Voigtlander out resolved them all wide open. PLUS, every Summicron had significant focus shift. The Voigtlander had none.

I still wanted .7M focus, so I tested the Zeiss f2 Biogon. It was razor sharp with no focus shift. It had a miniscule edge over my Voigtlander and beat all of the Summicrons in sharpness.

I FULLY planned on buying a nice used 35mm 'cron. But objectively and subjectively I just didn't like it. I now have a stellar 35mm f2 Biogon and a sharp-but-painterly Voigtlander Ultron. I have friends who would never buy an "off-brand" Leica lens (and I have nothing but love for my 50mm Summilux ASPH) but there are so many choices on the pallet for us that it would be a shame to turn a blind eye to some remarkable lenses we might truly love.
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Joe Van Cleave on Shooting Leica Rangefinder Cameras with Third-Party Lenses is not a Crime!

Comment posted: 15/04/2019

The elephant in the room is rangefinder focus cam calibration between various brands. IIRC, Zeiss and Leica weren’t always calibrated to the same standard. Same with FSU lenses. Even between Leica lenses people still report focus issues.
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Hamish Gill replied:

Comment posted: 15/04/2019

Zeiss lenses are fully compatible, FSU lenses less so. But yes, the rangefinder focusing system can fail

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Karl on Shooting Leica Rangefinder Cameras with Third-Party Lenses is not a Crime!

Comment posted: 15/04/2019

Couldn't agree more as someone in his younger days thought a better camera and lens meant better pictures whatever that meant. When I did my various city and guilds modules. The pictures favoured most were take with Kiev rf. Moscow 3. Lubitel and a bx20 praktica.
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Dave on Shooting Leica Rangefinder Cameras with Third-Party Lenses is not a Crime!

Comment posted: 15/04/2019

Recently purchased my first Leica, a M3.
I’m using a Canon 1.8 ltm with it at the moment, & I’m happy as a pig in s**t with the results.
I can’t imagine buying a Leica lens would make any happier than I am now!
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Hamish Gill replied:

Comment posted: 15/04/2019

It's on my list, that lens!

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Daniel Castelli on Shooting Leica Rangefinder Cameras with Third-Party Lenses is not a Crime!

Comment posted: 15/04/2019

Henri Cartier-Bresson was photographed with a Zeiss lens on his Leica. David Douglas Duncan photographed Marines in both Korea and Vietnam AND Picasso in France using Nikon lenses on his Leica's. Deal with that lens snobs.

Brits are faced with Brexit, we've got Trump and the French (and the world) are dealing with a horrific tragedy with the near destruction of Notre Dame Cathedral. And some people are upset because you or I may not get perfect out of focus highlights?

The Leica M4-2 helped revive Leica. Voigtlander helped fuel an interest in film/rangefinder photography when it was lagging in the late 1990's. And now, people bash both camera & lenses?

When I see someone with a (film) Leica, what goes through my head is that 'here's someone with more than just a passing interest' in shooting film. Then, if they have fitted to the camera a non-Leica lens, I'm thinking 'this person has done some research' and found something out of the ordinary that meets their way of looking at the world. Now, just for the record, I really don't run those exact words through my noggin, but you get the idea.
To quote Steve: "...but I like what works for me and an old enough to not really care what others think of my lens choices..." well, that's me. I've mounted on my m2 & m4p the tiny, 40mm M-Rokkor. It's not everyone's cup of tea, but it works for me. I've tested it against the viewfinder lines, and I know where the limits of the angle of view of the lens as it relates to the camera. I like the weight, the size and I can get filters that fit (the Summicron-C has the weird thread pitch which makes it almost impossible to get filters & shades.) . With it on my CL, I can see the 40mm viewfinder lines.

So lets the snobs rant. We'll be out taking pics.
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Neil on Shooting Leica Rangefinder Cameras with Third-Party Lenses is not a Crime!

Comment posted: 15/04/2019

I like the planar 50 f2 ZM, after owning a few summicrons I prefer the Zeiss.

What’s this Leica glow people always refer to? Can anyone explain it? This might be what the snobs are getting at.
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Peter on Shooting Leica Rangefinder Cameras with Third-Party Lenses is not a Crime!

Comment posted: 16/04/2019

Great, and needed, article. My M2 (while in my possession) has yet to meet a Leica lens. It's only met my Voightlander 50 f/1.5 Nokton. When will folks realize the age old truth that it is the photographer behind the equipment that makes the great photo!
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M on Shooting Leica Rangefinder Cameras with Third-Party Lenses is not a Crime!

Comment posted: 16/04/2019

Until the 50 Rigid (1956) and 35 8-element (1958) arrived on the scene, Canon and Nikon bested Wetzlar in these key focal lengths. And unlike the Leicas, these lenses are less-prone to irreparable and fatal hazing.
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Graham Line on Shooting Leica Rangefinder Cameras with Third-Party Lenses is not a Crime!

Comment posted: 16/04/2019

Flavio is right, of course. It's about the image, not the hardware, for me.
I was with you all the way until you mentioned the Mandler lenses. Everyone should experience shooting with that lens series if they can possibly arrange to do so.
In my opinion (which doesn't amount to anything in most circles, the best M-mount lenses are the Minolta M-Rokkors and the slower Voigtlander products of 50mm or less.
Putting other-brand lenses on Leica bodies hasn't been a crime since DDD and other war shooters discovered L39-mount Nikkors during the Korean War, and there were creditable English (Reid) and various German lenses earlier. Probably French, too, and maybe Italian.
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eric on Shooting Leica Rangefinder Cameras with Third-Party Lenses is not a Crime!

Comment posted: 16/04/2019

Of course "no crime" ;-)
This is a question of rendering and personal test.
Actually, my favorite lens with the M3 is the Canon Ltm 50/1'4 ! The rendering is superb, sharpness is here, not top, but really enough, and this lens works very well with a lot of digital camera. And, ... this is an inexpensive lens ! The difference of price enter this lens and the Summilux, does not give a very big difference in the images !!!
This lens in one hand is beautiful with her vintage look ! Not maybe as beautiful than the Summilux, ...
I am very happy with it ...This is the most important point. But, if someone wants to offer me the Summilux in a special edition vintage, OK ;-)
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Andrew Pemberton on Shooting Leica Rangefinder Cameras with Third-Party Lenses is not a Crime!

Comment posted: 16/04/2019

Nice blog. Very nice and thought-provoking website. PS: Albeit is a word in itself (‘all be it’ in para 12).
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Greg on Shooting Leica Rangefinder Cameras with Third-Party Lenses is not a Crime!

Comment posted: 16/04/2019

Well put Hamish.

Happier with my M6 and several Voitlander lenses than I would be with my M6 and one 50mm 'Cron.

Saying that, you'd have to tear my Q from my dying arms as the lens on that is spectacular for what I want it for.
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Martin Smith on Shooting Leica Rangefinder Cameras with Third-Party Lenses is not a Crime!

Comment posted: 16/04/2019

Attaching a 'Voigtlaender' lens on any camera is a crime, sounds to me like a badly made knock off copy from some back of beyond country that no one cares about.
I do love what people publish online without checking their spelling!

Unless your a ardent collector or money is no object, I don't think it really matters what glass you use. After all, we are all about image making, are we not?
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Hamish Gill replied:

Comment posted: 16/04/2019

Hah, that’s actually how it’s spelled if you don’t have access to the accent. So it’s Voigtländer or Voigtlaender ... I think. I suspect he was just trying to be clever... strikes me as the type!

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Terry B replied:

Comment posted: 16/04/2019

"I do love what people publish online without checking their spelling! Unless your a ardent collector or money is no object." "Unless your a ardent" I'd suggest you check your English grammar. So you know, it should read "Unless you're an ardent..." Smacks of people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

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martin bruntnell on Shooting Leica Rangefinder Cameras with Third-Party Lenses is not a Crime!

Comment posted: 16/04/2019

My Lada 1200 goes great with Ferrari wheels;-)
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Martin Smith on Shooting Leica Rangefinder Cameras with Third-Party Lenses is not a Crime!

Comment posted: 16/04/2019

In German ä stands for [ɛ] or æ, but not 'ae' which is quite different spelling, for now that's another story!

Clever, I thought him slow-witted myself.
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Hamish Gill replied:

Comment posted: 16/04/2019

Haha, you and I both - maybe it’s because the Voigtlander website url uses the ae spelling... I dunno why I’m trying to find excuses for this guy!

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Adam on Shooting Leica Rangefinder Cameras with Third-Party Lenses is not a Crime!

Comment posted: 16/04/2019

To use non Leica lenses on a Leica is an affront that breaks the Lens Purity laws of 1516 promulgated by Prince Wetzlar of Mandler, that any lens not made from the sand of a virgin beach, lapped by the balmy waters of the Baltic , melted by meistercraftsman apprenticed at the bellows and adept at shaping the philosophers stone, was heresy; punishment for which was to be put in pit and stoned by Contax 1s until you found one with a reliable shutter. Or was that the beer laws; Hamish , you are right. Back in the 1950s there were adapters so you could improve your Leica by using thoses wonderful Zeiss Contax lenses. Likewise my Leica is much enhanced with the addition of 2 inch Taylor Hobson, or in the gloom a 50mm 1.2 Canon. Lens are brushes, use the brush for look you want. ..............P.s having once had a go in 1980s Formula One car , and was overtaken by a better piloted Ford Escort I can tell you it aint the car , it aint the tyres, its the driver. Can't imagine how that would apply to photography (yeah right!)
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Daniel Fjäll on Shooting Leica Rangefinder Cameras with Third-Party Lenses is not a Crime!

Comment posted: 16/04/2019

I care a lot about how my Leica camera looks. Not so much about other brands for some reason. I liked the pictures from the 50mm Summicron V3 I had but the shape of the lens looked off. The shape resembled something like a chopped off cone. I sold it for that reason alone. I had the Planar 50mm briefly and it looked out of place with that shiny black finish and blue dot. Very few third party brands looks good on a Leica if any IMO. It's like running Windows on a Mac.
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Laurence Kesterson on Shooting Leica Rangefinder Cameras with Third-Party Lenses is not a Crime!

Comment posted: 16/04/2019

After reading your piece yesterday I mounted a Jupiter 8 on my digital Leica and shot a job with it. The 50mm 1.4 asph Summilux is one of my favorite lenses and I find it hard to beat by any standard. However, the Jupiter produced some beautifully "round" yet sharp images. (I shimmed mine to focus properly with the Leica).

I love my Leica glass, it's one of the reasons I use the system. I also enjoy what I can do with the cheap Russian glass that's so readily available to experiment with. Oh yeah, and the 7Artisans lenses are the bomb! The 50mm f1.1 and the 28 f1.4 are incredible for the money.

Keep up the good work, Hamish. I really enjoy your blog.
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Hamish Gill replied:

Comment posted: 16/04/2019

Cheers, Lawrence! That's how I think of the Jupiter look too

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jeremy north on Shooting Leica Rangefinder Cameras with Third-Party Lenses is not a Crime!

Comment posted: 17/04/2019

Surely you would have to shoot on film made by Leitz and processed in Leitz chemistry and printed on Leitz paper using a Leitz enlarger in a darkroom with a Leitz safelight. In fact the darkroom must be constructed using only Leitz bricks and mortar ...
The reason that most second hand Leica kit is in such good condition is that the people who own them never use them. Much like their Ferrari cars. Fan boys are just collectors with p3n1§ envy
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Hamish Gill replied:

Comment posted: 17/04/2019

Haha, quite right

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Brian Sweeney on Shooting Leica Rangefinder Cameras with Third-Party Lenses is not a Crime!

Comment posted: 17/04/2019

Actually... The J-8M is NOT a Sonnar knock-off. The J-8M is a unique formulation of a lens in the Sonnar family. It's "optical Prescription", type of glass, surface curvature, thickness of glass- etc is much different from the 5cm f2 Sonnar. And I recognize the one of the camera... It is really good.

I have a lot lenses in Leica mount. Many that I adapted in RF-coupled Leica mount. The point of shooting a camera with a "universal mount" such as LTM is to have a lot of choice in lenses. Most real Leica users know this. Those that don't are usually compensating for some photographic inadequacy by hiding behind a brand name as being the magic sauce of making a good photograph.

Since you have an M10, and have "An Electronic Viewfinder"- pick up a Konica 50mm F1.7 AR-Hexanon. It matches the type 2 Rigid Summicron, but costs about $30. I use mine on the M8, made a custom Cam for it. My M8 gets all the cool lenses.
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Hamish Gill replied:

Comment posted: 17/04/2019

Thank's Brian, I was being a little flippant with my wording ... I do love the fact that you've gone as far as to make cams for SLR lenses - very cool

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Eric on Shooting Leica Rangefinder Cameras with Third-Party Lenses is not a Crime!

Comment posted: 17/04/2019

Hiiii Daniel Castelli,

I like too the Summicron-C 40/2, this is an excellent lens. The sharpness is high, bokeh is average, at 5'6/8 f no big difference with other Summicron. Just this special little rendering of this Leica 50/60/1970 history great material.
About the Zeiss ZM 35-1'4, for me it is the same rendering when I had the Contax 2 with all lenses ! I miss a black box with the 4 lenses to exchange with my M7, I have sold later. Just 2 things have stopped me : Contax G2 will not survived and these Zeiss lenses I have used before are too pop for me, this my thought about the ZM 35/1'4. too pop, too sharp, despite it is better than the Summilux.
We have to hunt old lens there are a few gems, and for me, I do not care to mount on my Leica !!! ;-) it is not a crime, this is an honorific for my Leica to wear so great lenses.
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David Wignall on Shooting Leica Rangefinder Cameras with Third-Party Lenses is not a Crime!

Comment posted: 17/04/2019

I couldn't agree more with the sentiments in this article. I think using and enjoying what you have instead of wishing for some type of holy grail lens makes for more satisfying and more successful photography.
I'm currently shooting mostly with a Leica M6 and Voigtlander 35/1.4 and I have to say that I love this combination! In my opinion this is ergonimacally the best MF lens I have ever used and with the exception of a touch of flare (which often looks cool) the IQ is fantastic.
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Rollin Banderob on Shooting Leica Rangefinder Cameras with Third-Party Lenses is not a Crime!

Comment posted: 17/04/2019

Hamish,
Well said. Within color digital photography do you think there is a unique "Leica look" in images with current cameras and software?
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Hamish Gill replied:

Comment posted: 17/04/2019

Yeah, to a point. Leica lenses are cooler and Leica cameras have thier own colour science - of course, much of this can be overwritten, but getting it right in camera gives a better starting point. I'd rather have the slightly more magenta look of a leica photo than the green look of an older sony photo for eg

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Rollin Banderob replied:

Comment posted: 17/04/2019

Hmmm, guess when I have seen the term "Leica look" I thought they were talking about sharpness/microcontrast and "3D pop." And my thinking is with the current software sharpness/microcontrast can be enhanced and was wondering if Leica had lost that exclusivity due to software, and others improving their lenses.

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Hamish Gill replied:

Comment posted: 17/04/2019

Maybe people are. I think the system still has an advantage as most of the lenses, regardless of brand, are of more simple formula which in my experience tend to have more "pop". I think a lot of leica people will try and find a lot of reasons to justify the expense of the lenses/system... most of this is of course subjective anyway...

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Dan on Shooting Leica Rangefinder Cameras with Third-Party Lenses is not a Crime!

Comment posted: 17/04/2019

I keep saying this to everyone who will listen - Leica bodies make a lot of sense $$$ wise. If you're a RF kind of person, all roads really lead to a Leica body imho - especially M2, M4. You can pick up a Metered Contax, sure - but it will eventually break. $800 a pop for what will become a paperweight.. I know a guy on his 4th.

Leica glass is optional - the bodies kick ass.
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Hamish Gill replied:

Comment posted: 17/04/2019

M4-P and M3 for me, but, yeah! :)

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Brandon on Shooting Leica Rangefinder Cameras with Third-Party Lenses is not a Crime!

Comment posted: 20/04/2019

I haven’t read all the comments and I’m a few days late to the article, but wouldn’t this argument mandate the use of only the highest resolution/finest grain films? Why use Delta 3200 with your summicron when Ilford Pan F 50 would give you “sharper” results? Sounds like a pretty boring way to shoot honestly. On a somewhat related topic, Hamish, have you used any of the Konica m-mount lenses? Just got the 50 f2 and I’m loving it. Most are relatively inexpensive.
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Hamish Gill replied:

Comment posted: 20/04/2019

Well, quite... I haven't yet - the 50mm is on my list though... the list is long! ;)

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Nick on Shooting Leica Rangefinder Cameras with Third-Party Lenses is not a Crime!

Comment posted: 26/04/2019

Not to mention the Konica 35mm f2 (UC LTM) which looks to be a fine lens. Out of interest, what is your favourite 28mm with a compatible look (eg to 50mm 1.5 sonar or the ZM 35mm 1.4, both of which deliver my favourite look) or is that not a focal length you use?
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Patrick Carosone on Shooting Leica Rangefinder Cameras with Third-Party Lenses is not a Crime!

Comment posted: 14/05/2020

I've been shooting Leicas since 1958 and still use the same lenses. Dont know if they are the best image wise but build wise nothing compares. I started with a IIIf, still have, then an M3, still use, still think one of the best cameras ever made. Then I went digital to an M8, which I love, still use my same lenses I started with, a 36mm, a 50mm, a 75mm, a 90mm and a 135mm, all still working perfectly. With the inclusion of a new digital I decided to try a new Zeiss 28mm Biogon, worked for about a month, now I dont shoot very much, but this lens started falling apart after about a month. I started to notice loss of sharpness, then noticed a wobble, it turned out the whole back of the lense loosened up and started backing off, I had to purchase a special screwdriver to tighten the lense up but no matter what it kept coming loose, gave it back to Zeiss with my compliments and went back to my standards, which are over 50 years old and have never had a problem with any of them, no dust, no dirt, no wobbles just plain perfect as the day purchased. I had also purchased a couple of collectors cameras all of which had fa I'll lead lenses. If you want the best buy the best!!!
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Leica M10-P Review - A Brilliantly Underwhelming Digital Rangefinder on Shooting Leica Rangefinder Cameras with Third-Party Lenses is not a Crime!

Comment posted: 07/07/2020

[…] Leica cameras is the Leica lenses. I have ranted about the stupidity of that latter ideal before here, but I am happy to give some room to the idea that mounting some of these other lenses might seem a […]
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Bill on Shooting Leica Rangefinder Cameras with Third-Party Lenses is not a Crime!

Comment posted: 29/07/2021

Very late to the game on this one, but two things:

First, I think such an argument falls apart when one attempts to inject the concept of affordability into the equation of any conversation involving Leica gear. Note that this has nothing to do with value, quality, etc.. Those that can afford to buy a Leica camera but not Leica lenses aren't likely going to receive much sympathy from the few who can afford Leica-everything, nor from the vast majority of everyone else in the world. This is all the more true ever since Leica reinvented itself as a lifestyle brand. (Which has kept the company alive, seeing their prices far outpacing inflation.)

Second, if you really didn't care what others think you probably wouldn't have gone to the effort to write this entry to begin with. My observation is that most Leica owners could stand to develop thicker skin (myself included). My guess is that the first point made above comes into play here as well, resulting in abnormal levels of self-consciousness. Understand that when it comes to online comments, logic is worthless (yes, I understand the irony of my comments here). Thicker skin is usually the single best solution. Sure, this is offered tongue-in-cheek, but there is a lot of truth in it.

NOTE: The reality is that if you're truly happy with both the experience of using the gear you own along with the resulting images you create with that gear, then you won't be any better off than the average person using their smartphone these days. However, you likely have the majority of people who constantly spend money on photo gear beat. Enjoy the experience and know that I've enjoyed the content you create whenever I've taken the time to read it. Just never forget that the Internet can be brutal. Such behavior isn't reserved just for elitists or morons, and certainly not just elitist morons.
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Hamish Gill replied:

Comment posted: 29/07/2021

1. I don't think it does. I have spoken to a lot of people over the years of running this website and am aware of people who have saved for years just to be able to buy their dream camera. Those people have the right not to be criticised. 2. I write about my experiences. This is a blog, I am always looking for things to write about. Also, I don't care what people think about me - I wouldn't repeatedly put my neck on the line with my opinions if I did. But I do suffer empathy, and when I see people being criticised for choices about cameras, sometimes I feel the need to jump to their defence. And yes, "enjoy the experience" that's pretty much my mantra - that's why I feel sad when some try and diminish the experiences of others

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Bill on Shooting Leica Rangefinder Cameras with Third-Party Lenses is not a Crime!

Comment posted: 01/08/2021

While I admire Leica film cameras and lenses both, I would never try to convince anyone else that they are affordable. In fact, I simply couldn’t do so in good conscience. That someone would have to save for many years just to afford a single camera only furthers my point. I’m simply left to disagree with you on this matter. You’re obviously entitled to your opinion and as it is your blog you are no doubt going to find many like minded individuals enjoying your content. I just happen to feel that anyone who views Leica gear as affordable is representative of a very small minority of people.
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Hamish Gill replied:

Comment posted: 01/08/2021

I’m not saying leica cameras are affordable. I’m saying that just because they aren’t affordable, doesn’t mean that someone with less resources shouldn’t be allowed to own a Leica. I think you have either misunderstood or misread my few paragraphs on this point. I’m simply saying that if someone saves for a long time to buy their dream camera, they should be allowed, without judgement from more affluent people, to use a cheaper lens on said camera.

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karm francois on Shooting Leica Rangefinder Cameras with Third-Party Lenses is not a Crime!

Comment posted: 06/11/2021

love Leica M, use 20 of them, with plenty different mainly 35mm. when I bought my first M-A , I load in the Leica shop in Paris the TriX provide with the camera and put a LOMO LCA 35mm lens on it.
People were looking à me strangely .
I love this lens , it is a Lomo rendering, it is very very small like the japanese MS optics I love too , it is rangefinder couple plus the lomo has 3 detend for short, medium and long distance wich is so usefull for street photography.
Today I am using a 35 Mm 7 artisan on my M7 as it is perfect like a summicron in term of haptic ( did not click with the small zeiss tab) .
Love the summicron IV too, with his plastic hood wich is so usefull!
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Gary Smith on Shooting Leica Rangefinder Cameras with Third-Party Lenses is not a Crime!

Comment posted: 26/02/2024

This certainly seemed to generate replies! I may try to find a Voigtländer 35 with LTM (just to show I'm not a snob).
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Hamish Gill replied:

Comment posted: 26/02/2024

Haha, do it! Great lens for not much cash!

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