The Leica Mystique: The Brand vs. The Camera

By Hamish Gill

Leica cameras, especially the m-mount rangefinders have a certain amount of mystique attached to them. Their fans often seem to give them a level of attention and admiration as camera designs that over-inflate their desirability given the fact that they are arguably niche products in the landscape of possible photographic equipment. What this mystique hides is many of the realities of owning, maintaining and shooting these cameras – this being something that their often vocal detractors expend a lot of breath trying to highlight.

This post is going to be the first in a short series about Leica cameras. Not – as you will discover – because I want to wax lyrical about how incredible they are, but actually as part of a desire to attempt to dispel some of the myths and aforementioned mystique. Yes this all comes from a fairly fanatical Leica camera user, but as I hope you will discover I’m not blind to the ugliness of elements of the Leica brand, and I certainly don’t think the cameras are perfect!

A bit of history

Possibly the most logical place to start is at the beginning. I shan’t bore you with a comprehensive blow by blow account of Leica’s history – not least because it doesn’t interest me enough to write about it. That said, I do think it’s worth acknowledging where it all started, mainly because Leica played a big part in the popularisation of the 35mm film format for stills photography – a fact that can’t have done their long-term reputation much harm!

Oskar Barnack, working for a manufacturer of microscopes by the name of Leitz, created some of the earliest stills cameras to make use of a perforated 35mm film that at the time was mostly used for moving pictures. By expanding the vertical 18×24 frame used for moving pictures to a horizontal 24×36 frame for stills he created a greater potential for good quality enlargements. By combining this potential with quality Leitz optics, Leitz Camera was born.

Voigtlander 28mm f/3.5 Color-Skopar on leica standard
My oldest Leica – a 1932 ‘Standard’

The likes of Contax and Kodak soon followed, and with Kodak bringing the 135 cartridge to market the path was set for 35mm film to eventually become the most popular film used throughout the 20th century and still today. Of course with that popularity came many more brands making 35mm compact cameras, especially after the Second World War. But from those very early days Leica built a strong reputation for making high quality tools that were aimed at professionals and serious photographers; a reputation that whilst questioned has become the backbone of the niche, high-end and luxury brand they are today.

The Leica M – the choice of the greats (and the aspirational)

The early reputation that Leica had saw their cameras being adopted by many notable photographers in the early days of photojournalism and what we’d now broadly call street photography. The portability and reliability made them a great choice for such usage. What’s relevant about this today is that it’s these two fields of photography that are arguably the most aspired to by photographers looking to make a name for themselves outside of the more day-to-day fields commercial photography. I’d even go as far to say that these are the types of photography that command the most credibility and dare I say “cool”.

The knock-on effect of this is that the credibility associated with these fields of photography and those at the top of their game within them has over the last 90 odd years rubbed off on Leica cameras, especially I’d argue, the m-mount ones that take film. All those great film photographers who took all these great photos with Leica cameras throughout history did wonders for the reputation of the Leica brand. These days it almost seems imprinted into the history of photography that Leica cameras played a part in the creation of countless historically significant photographs – to the point in fact that some very famous photos are often incorrectly attributed as being shot with Leica cameras. This seems to have created some quite significant level of aspiration in budding photographers to own the things – great photos were taken with these great cameras, ergo, to take great photos one must own a Leica…

Now of course anyone with half a brain will pull that apart and tell you that great photography is achievable with any appropriate equipment. No one needs a Leica to be a great photojournalist or street photographer – many more great photographers over the decades have used other brands, and have of course still achieved greatness. But with Leica, at least within certain circles, there just seems to be an extra credibility attached to the use of the gear, credibility that seems to be continually reinforced by further uptake of these types of cameras by photographers who fit (or at least attempt to fit) into these more “cool” fields of photography, even today. I don’t really buy into the “cool” myself – though I’m sure most others would say that too. But, one way or another, to a great or lesser degree, I’d bet many are influenced on some level by this strength of this element of the Leica brand image. This in turn continues to reinforce the notion of some sort of mystique being attached to these cameras.

Snaps from London
I did a street photo in China town in London with a Leica – can I be cool too now?

The positive derision of luxury

Of course, not everyone buys into this mystique in a positive way. Some people even use it as the basis of their distaste toward the brand. The irony is, those who deride the brand unfortunately but quite likely help to maintain its place on the pedestal. It’s an almost perfect example of the phrase “no publicity is bad publicity”. Many of those who go out of their way to discuss how Leica cameras are “just cameras and aren’t worth the money” etc, often do little more than to draw attention to the fact that opposite opinions exists.

These sorts of negative opinions toward luxury and high end brands exists across the board. The ugly side of the existence of luxury brands is that they no doubt thrive on this derision and even likely adopt it as part of their brand management strategy. Let me put it this way, Leica wouldn’t release rebranded Panasonic cameras at twice the price if they thought it was going to be PR suicide! They do it because they know they’ll sell the things to people with a few quid in their back pockets which in turn will add weight to the brand, and not detract from it.

This is just what Hasselblad tried to do with the Lunar et al – unfortunately the then owners misjudged the perception of the brand and it backfired. Yet whilst it was happening, Leica continued to sell rebranded Panasonic cameras unphased and unharmed by the controversy. Leica have such a strong brand that it overpowers the thin veil of vaguely specified technical differences and validates the doubled price tag. People who can afford it buy into it do so because of the shear weight of the brand. Their cash allows them both the luxury of a camera that only might be better, as well as buying them the luxury of basking in the glory of owning such a thing. The even more ugly part of this is that quite often it comes with the idea that those who can’t afford such things are simply jealous.

Of course these extremes are far from the reality for everyone who can afford a Leica, nor is jealousy a reality for everyone who can’t – not by a long stretch. Not all Leica cameras are rebranded Panasonics for a start, and equally many people simply don’t see Leica’s own cameras as being the right choice for them… But the fact that this divide exists in broad landscape of opinion and emotion toward Leica, once again adds to the mystique.

The Leica mini – most likely some sort of Minolta with a red dot on it.

The Leica fanfare

The result of everything written above is that I think people often buy Leica cameras, or at least their first Leica, with a level of expectation. Of course expectation varies from one person to the next but the impact of it can be quite significant when it comes to the initial desire to purchase a Leica camera, and indeed the long term outcome of that purchase decision. The expectation ranges from simply looking to find and use a quality tool at one end of the spectrum, to the use of a Leica having some profound impact on the photographic outcome, and perhaps even expecting some sort fanfare.

I’ve taken this word “fanfare” directly from a post on Casual Photophile. Josh, the author of this post, speaks quite eloquently about just the sort of expectation I am talking about. All the hype had clearly permeated his psyche, yet when he used the Leica M2 in question and felt so little for it he was compelled to write about a lack of “fanfare”. The Leica-experienced pragmatist in me wants to pull apart this part of his response and label it as almost naive. It’s just a camera after all, what was he expecting?

But then, I remember the day I got my first Leica – a battered M4-2 around a decade ago. I’d already established a joy for the rangefinder camera with a voigtlander R2a, so when I got my Leica I was instantly hit by the difference. Short of the lack of light meter, everything I loved about the Voigtalnder was present in the Leica, but with it came a mechanical feel that the Voigtlander entirely lacked. The camera appeared to work as well as the day it had left the factory, yet was 40 odd years old. It was more solid than the majority of the cameras in my then fairly extensive Nikon collection, and with this solid feel came a quietness that suggested an internal construction that was superior to any of my Nikon cameras, including my F2 (something I know know to be untrue). Combined with this, I was proud to own the thing – I had a Leica, and whilst I’ve never expected this to impact positively on my photography, I did feel as though I had taken my first steps into a world of owning truly special cameras. As such, loading a film and taking my first photos with it, I suppose I came as close I as can imagine coming to the fanfare that Josh felt his experience lacked. Of course, 10 years later I’m well over all that now, and largely just enjoy my Leica cameras for what they are, cameras that work for me (something I will come back to in a future post). But, in those early days, the sum of the whole experience felt greater than the parts, and a Leica fanboy was born.

So who’s right and who’s wrong? Well of course it’s entirely subjective. But unlike with most cameras, the subjective response is heightened by the weight of expectations and everything that comes along with the brand. To Josh, the lack of positive emotional response to the camera, the lack of joy he found in shooting it was likely compounded by a slightly cynical approach to Leica as a whole. It might – though I am casting aspersions about his integrity as a writer here – have even been influenced by a desire to write something negative about the “myth” of the Leica. I don’t know – and actually I’m mostly sure that’s not the case here – but you can bet there’s content out there like this that’s written purely for the sake of deriding the brand and the cameras they make.

The real point here is this: enjoyment or otherwise of a Leica is heightened by the myth and mystique that precedes it. This in turn has a big impact on strength of and weight of opinion held by people. This of course then impacts on what’s subsequently written online about those experiences. Those who find joy wax lyrically about how wonderful their experiences are, those who don’t often spout the polar opposite. All this in turn just continues to reinforce all the mystique around the brand, when ironically all people are actually talking about is liking or not liking a camera (this being the slightly caustically written concluding note of Josh’s post).

Both sides of the argument – and I include myself in this statement – sometimes forget we are talking about something that is ultimately just a thing for taking photos with various pros and cons, and shouldn’t really be considered anything more. My personal Leica history, including much that can be illustrated by looking back at past reviews evidences all this quite nicely.

leica M7 with Summarit 50mm 1.5 ltm
An iphone-taken photo of a Leica M7 – depressingly, this is the most viewed photo on my flickr!!

Finding the camera behind the mystique

For a start, the aforementioned lack of meter in the M4-2 meant that it was soon upgraded to a Leica M6. It didn’t work for me as at the time I felt I needed a metered camera. But that wasn’t the end of it either, after I bought the M6 and had a short honeymoon with it I found I missed the autoexposure I had in the Voigtlander, so sold the M6 and just stuck with what I’d started with. It was then quite some time before I felt I could afford a Leica M7, and look how the break from spending time with the brand influenced how I wrote about it here.

I talk about the joy of owning it, the feel of luxury etc. I’d rediscovered that fanfare. Of course that appreciation hasn’t completely gone away, it still factors in some way in my overall emotion toward the ownership of the cameras but it doesn’t factor in my day-to-day use of them. Having spent some time shooting the M7, just look at how much more pragmatic I’d become when I bought my M3. My entire M3 “review” is focused on the practical realities and needs for that camera to be right for me as a photographer.

Owning and shooting the M7 washed away much of the desire for the brand and left just a camera. This wasn’t a fault or through any flaw in the Leica M7, if anything it was testament to how well it worked for me as a tool. But, what also happened around that time was an increase in my understanding about how to shoot film, and indeed how I wanted to shoot film. Contrary to my earlier experiences, I found I didn’t need a built in meter. But, unlike with my previous experiences where I found there wasn’t a Leica I could afford that was suitable for my needs, this time there were other Leicas that were suitable, and fitted exactly the requirements and the budget I had. That is to say, on both occasions the practical realities of owning Leica m-mount cameras entirely overrode what the brand meant to me. In the first instance this meant I sold them, but latterly it’s meant I’ve kept them.

Now of course, I can’t speak for everyone who owns a Leica – I’m sure as Josh talks about there are many photographers who own them just because of the credibility attached to them. But the reality for most people who actually shoot them, and more importantly continue to shoot them long after they buy them, is that they’re simply the right cameras for them. Unfortunately, I think there’s probably a lot of people who buy them not understanding the pros and cons and end up selling them with a heightened sense of disillusionment brought about by the expectation and hype. As such, in my next post in this series, I shall attempt to highlight some of the realities of Leica M mount film cameras – and indeed some of the modern digital wallet-emptiers. As someone who’s shot them for a fair while now, I’m quite comfortable in my knowledge of what they’re great at, as well as being fairly well versed in the ways they really are quite crap!

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By Hamish Gill
I started taking photos at the age of 9. Since then I've taken photos for a hobby, sold cameras for a living, and for a little more than decade I've been a professional photographer and, of course, weekly contributor to 35mmc.
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Alex Yates on The Leica Mystique: The Brand vs. The Camera

Comment posted: 25/02/2018

I'm an avid Leica shooter, partly due to an M2 being passed down to me by my father. The most important thing for me is I don't need to think about the camera...that's it. It works, and I can concentrate on focus, composition and light.
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Daniel replied:

Comment posted: 25/02/2018

Always wonder what is that camera that one has to think about? Do you have to think about camera when shooting Minolta? Or Nikon? What kind of thought other cameras can provoke that Leica lacks? If someone thinks only about focus, composition and light when shooting on their phone, does it mean that there's something wrong with that person?

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Blinx on The Leica Mystique: The Brand vs. The Camera

Comment posted: 25/02/2018

In their day Leica film cameras were the best designed and made compact 35mm cameras available. They're niche in 2018, being a street photography tool for people who still shoot on film and don't want autofocus, auto-exposure or a truly compact camera. A Mamiya 7 or Plaubel Makina has a Leica beat for image quality, an XA is smaller, a mirrorless digital camera more efficient, an F2 probably as well constructed and a more versatile lens platform.

Owners seem to fall into two categories: those who want "the best" and think a Leica represents that exemplar, and those who acquire one believing their photography will improve and are disappointed. People for whom only a Leica film camera allows them to fulfil their potential as photographers are a small constituency, but that doesn't stop people wanting them.
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Terry B replied:

Comment posted: 25/02/2018

Blinx, depends upon what you mean by in their day. Pre- the 1954 M, screw Leicas fall way behind the pre-war Contax II and III (built in meter). Contax rangefinder and v/f far superior and the bodies more streamlined in design, albeit larger and heavier than the Leica. Quick change bayonet mount and non-rotating shutter speed dial. Looks are a personal matter, so I needn't argue this point one way or the other. Perhaps overall size trumps the larger, more versatile, Contax. Post-war, the big change for Leica was the superb M3; Zeiss only managed smaller versions of the Contax II/III with their IIa and IIIa.

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Blinx replied:

Comment posted: 25/02/2018

Yes I agree with that, and thought of the Contax when I posted. Until the M-series using a rangefinder with anything other than a 50mm lens killed most of the convenience and compactness of the type. Leaving out the war years when neither Leica nor Contax were available, the period when the Contax II was the top technological dog was brief, and Leica subsequently became the byword for quality. Contax became Kiev and survived as a Soviet camera into the 1980s. Leica's "day" was the early Barnack era, and the M period to the point where rangefinders ceased to be the choice of professionals. After the mid-60s they became a street photography mainstay and a toy for the wealthy.

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Terry B on The Leica Mystique: The Brand vs. The Camera

Comment posted: 25/02/2018

Hamish, it seems you've managed to cover all points about what attracts people to Leicas, and what doesn't. There is clearly a very strong mystique attached to the brand, and for reasons that are not exactly related to performance. I believe this mystique is amply demonstrated by Leica-badged Panasonic cameras and the premium that has to be paid for that red dot. So that Leica mystique is very real. Of course, there is also pride of ownership of what is, after all, a photographic iconic brand.

Once past the mystique, it has to prove its keep and, uniquely, with the M mount any camera from 1954 can be significantly upgraded because Leica is still in business and is arguably now producing some of the best lenses for 35mm. My point here, is that the brand never becomes obsolete because of this feature.

So can the reason be that the Leica is/was the best? One telling comparison is with Zeiss. When Zeiss came out with the Contax II in 1936, they arguably had a better photographic tool than the then current Leicas. It had a far superior long base rangefinder with the rangefinder image within the v/f winder, 18 years before Leica caught up with the M3. As a professional tool, it was more advanced in that it had provision for cassette to cassette loading, and with a fully removable back wasn't as awkward to load. And let's not forget that the Zeiss Sonnars of the day were superior to the fast lenses Leitz could offer. Indeed, to try and compete with Zeiss in this area, they had to borrow a Schneider lens design, the f1.5 Xenon, until they could come up with their own in-house designed fast lenses. But as we know, all this changed once Leitz upped the stakes with the M3 and newly computed modern lenses, and we know as well what subsequently happened to Zeiss.

I have a foot in both camps, so I can appreciate the strength's and weaknesses of either, and in comparison. I don't think it should be overlooked that buying into Leica today is a safer bet as more repair/servicing facilities exist than for Contax.

I wonder how would Leica be perceived today if production had ceased around 1960 or so, along with Zeiss?

By the way, "...and end up selling them with a heightened sense of dissolution brought about by the expectation and hype." "disillusionment" is the word here. Looks like your spellchecker has dropped you in it again. :D)
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Hamish Gill replied:

Comment posted: 25/02/2018

disillusionment noun a feeling of disappointment resulting from the discovery that the iphone autocorrect combined with poor proofreading skills is not as good as one believed it to be

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Christos Theofilogiannakos on The Leica Mystique: The Brand vs. The Camera

Comment posted: 25/02/2018

To my mind, the biggest problem of owning a Leica, is what you do with the rest of your cameras, because letting the lubricant of a camera costing thousands if euros dry in the closet while shooting a 50-euro Spotmatic sounds like a bit of a nonsense. In that respect, owning a Leica could turn out be a real killjoy for people who like to shoot with different cameras from time to time.
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Terry B replied:

Comment posted: 25/02/2018

Christos, I don't know how susceptible Leitz lenses are to lubricant problems with grease drying out due to not being used. Apart from one of my IIIf's needing its perished curtains being replaced, all of my Leica lenses, including a pre-war 35mm Elmar and 1951 f1.5 Summarit, neither of which has been re-lubricated since I acquired them in the late 1970's, still have that silky smooth focusing found on these earlier lenses. I suspect that this is due to a large extent to the fact that my cameras are stored in a low humidity environment in a wardrobe in my bedroom that never goes below 18C naturally. The potential problem you allude to is the lubricant itself simply drying out of its own accord and, of course, this factor is entirely independent from use. Apparently, this is of very real concern with the lenses Zeiss introduced for their first truly professional SLR design, the Contarex. By most accounts, these lenses were top notch performers, but it seems that there is an inherent flaw in the lubricant used and when it dries out it can lead to sudden friction welding of the lens helicoids, rendering the lens useless. And there will be no advance warning that it is about to happen. One minute you have a smoothly focusing lens, and the next minute it locks solid. I'd always wanted a Contarex Super, but the budget wouldn't stretch at the time. But later I did get one for my collection and with the Planar. Focusing is silky smooth but as the camera came with no service history I've no way of knowing if the lens has been re-lubricated. So, when I play with it, I'm just waiting for what may be the inevitable! Had I come across the following before I took the plunge I'd probably not have purchased the camera. The following makes for scary reading for Contarex owners. :o( http://www.zeisscamera.com/services_overhaul-contarex.shtml#Lenses

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Tony on The Leica Mystique: The Brand vs. The Camera

Comment posted: 25/02/2018

When it comes to Leica, the best approach is to rent one or borrow one and give it a try. You'll either fall in love or confirm your instincts that there is nothing there for you.

I rented an M9 for a weekend a few years back and fell in love. I now have both film and digital bodies. It's not so much the brand, the SL, for example, holds no allure for me. But Leica rangefinders, compared to any of the others I tried from the Canon P to the modern Bessas, are something special.

Great write up. Looking forward to more.
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Janet on The Leica Mystique: The Brand vs. The Camera

Comment posted: 25/02/2018

There is a documentary by Grasshopper films from a few years back called “The Reflecting Eye” I recommend it to anyone interested in the history and mystique of Leica cameras. Right at the end someone calls the Leica a camera with a soul. That just about explains the otherwise inexplicable bond I have with my Leicas.
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Joe Cohen on The Leica Mystique: The Brand vs. The Camera

Comment posted: 25/02/2018

Great review of plus and minus ( yin and yang!) of owning and love hate relationship of the Leica brand. Are their better more modern cameras of course. For me and I think others the rangefinder camera design slows me down and makes me contemplate the individual photo that I am creating. I wouldn’t use a Leica for recording a basketball game but for landscape, portrait or street use it’s in its element. Right now it is pretty unique in the marketplace for new rangefinder cameras with limited automation and still hi quality construction the lenses are also fantastic ( I have just as many Zeiss lenses as Leica!).
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Louis A. Sousa on The Leica Mystique: The Brand vs. The Camera

Comment posted: 25/02/2018

This is a great post. I too own both digital and film Leicas. I also own a Fuji XT2. The XT2's images are on par with the Leica digital images. Do I sell the XT2? That's a hard one. The XT2 has its place giving more flexibility than the Leica. Don't get me wrong, the Fuji lenses are off the charts good and once learned the XT2 is a supremely good camera. To a degree, the same comparison applies between my Leica M3 and Nikon F3, absent the menus of course. Why do I enjoy Leicas? They are quiet and have perfect weight and balance. Leicas lead me to simplicity, release from a host of buttons and dials and menus, the rangefinder's ease of use, creatively adapting to the limitations, high build quality, and the wonderful lenses (both Leica and Zeiss for me). I have read many times photographers being chastised for using non-Leica glass. That misses the point TO ME. Regardless of whether my Zeiss 35 or Summicron 50 is used, I enjoy the same wonderful experience described above.
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John Lockwood on The Leica Mystique: The Brand vs. The Camera

Comment posted: 25/02/2018

A film Leica M is a time-machine for me Hamish. It harkens back to my professional days of shooting medium format on a Hasselblad. Shutter speed, aperture and manual focus. It's the simplicity and purity of the process that appeals to me. That's why I enjoy shooting a Leica rangefinder.

Now, if I had a spare $6900 USD, would I buy a Leica M10? You bet!
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Ashley Carr on The Leica Mystique: The Brand vs. The Camera

Comment posted: 25/02/2018

When I want a fast, easy camera with minimal fuss and when I’m not concerned about perfect framing (or even perfect focus) I reach for my M2. Zone or hyperfocal focusing and a good eye for the light a available means I get a tool that’s incredibly quick to use, it almost ‘gets out of the way’ of shooting. This is the camera I use to document my now 5 and 8 yr old as they grow up.

When I want a camera that allows very precise framing and a more considered approach, one that will mount a shift lens, a macro or anything in between, I’ll reach for my Nikon F or F3 with their 100% viewfinders, usually with a Micro-Nikkor 55/2.8 (arguably one of the best 50(‘ish) lenses made for anyone..even though I don’t use it for macro.

If I want image quality I’ll use my Pentax 67.

Each serves their purpose and although there is some overlap between the two the choice in which I use is simply down to picking the right tool for the job at hand.

Mystique doesn’t make photographs.
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Guy Wheater on The Leica Mystique: The Brand vs. The Camera

Comment posted: 25/02/2018

A good question to ask: "Knowing what you do now, would you buy one again?" The answer for me is "probably", since I've had a great experience with my M6, and I remain fond of it. However, having counted my negative sheets I seem to shoot my OM4Ti twice as often, which is quite revealing. The often-heard argument about capturing a "decisive moment" with a Leica is a little curious - that is largely down to the photographer, not the camera (esp. a fully manual one).

If I lay down two contact sheets (from OM & M6) the obvious "winners" (for enlarging) have nothing to do with the camera (I don't naturally gravitate towards the Leica neg's - it's the overriding impact of the shot that matters). My M6 has been reliable and rewarding but I would say there are great alternative cameras (& systems) that can bring a similar level satisfaction (and equally nice prints on the wall).
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Neil on The Leica Mystique: The Brand vs. The Camera

Comment posted: 25/02/2018

I actually think Leica aren’t given enough credit for bringing daring cameras to the marketplace, such as the Monochrom and M-D, nobody is doing this as well. What digital camera can you buy today which is truly elegant and simple? There aren’t any! Can’t wait to read more of this Hamish thanks.
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Mark on The Leica Mystique: The Brand vs. The Camera

Comment posted: 25/02/2018

I think that if you are shooting 35mm film, and do not need either macro or longer focal lengths, it is very hard to beat a Leica for reliability, size/weight and relative quietness. There are some downsides, such as parallax effects on framing and viewfinder blockage with larger lenses, but on balance I find it a much nicer and easier camera to shoot with than a film SLR.

Digital M cameras are a very different proposition, because there are many good mirrorless digital systems now that offer all the advantages of the film Leica system but without the disadvantages nor insane costs. The only real advantages Leica retains are their small lens size and the rendering of specific lenses. And if your ultra-expensive digital M breaks down, you will need to buy another if you want to keep shooting during the 6 weeks or more of repair time.
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George Appletree on The Leica Mystique: The Brand vs. The Camera

Comment posted: 25/02/2018

I bought my first Leica M6 about twenty years ago. And still own two Leicas. They work fine. They aren't crap.
Some detract them, some love them without conditions.
Trying to be in the middle is a vane exercise of juggling. Either you keep your eyes in them or you don't.
In my case there are lots of reasons I'm looking in a different direction long ago. Usually going deep into them make Leica inconditionals remain deaf. Blind if you prefer.
Obviously I mind just nothing about all that nowadays.
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Olli Thomson on The Leica Mystique: The Brand vs. The Camera

Comment posted: 25/02/2018

I don't own a Leica and short of a lottery win probably never will, but I see the appeal. For me it's a strange mixture of responses - rational and emotional. I would have no interest in a digital Leica, since what I have read suggests that technologically they are middle of the road cameras. While the new CL is quite tempting, there's nothing about it as far as I can see that beats my current Fuji. This is my rational response. Emotionally, though, I would love an M7 (I still need the crutch of a meter). Perhaps in my mind Leica's heritage is so strongly connected with film that the film M's are more appealing. Or perhaps the fact that when it comes to film rangefinders we have so few alternatives and many of those alternatives are fifty years old. I do wonder if my longing for an M7 would disappear if Sony (for example) brought out the Sony Hexar RF (or the Sony CLE) film camera with a few decent lenses at one third of the price and tapping into all that wonderful Konica and Minolta heritage. And I wonder how worried Leica would be.
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Jason S Ganz on The Leica Mystique: The Brand vs. The Camera

Comment posted: 25/02/2018

There's a reason that I swear by my leicaflex standard. It's not an m, but the build quality and the simplicity of it is just unbelievable. It's from a time when Leica built seemingly without regard for cost - or the surging Japanese SLR market and industry for that matter - and it's decades-long derision by many Leica shooters have left it a great secret and underrated. I just love the fact that it does as well as it does considering it's limitations, and then I try to go around them.
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jeremy north on The Leica Mystique: The Brand vs. The Camera

Comment posted: 26/02/2018

My relationship with Leica goes back only about three years. Until then I'd been a skeptic, mainly put off by the fanboy hype along with the price of ownership. All of that melted away when I first handled an M2. Immediately I felt the quality and attention to detail. That's why I bought an M2 and understand why Leica is so revered by purists.
The brand thing is another matter. However, as Leica nearly went to the wall a few years ago but kept going, I praise them for their clever marketing which makes using one albeit nearly 60 years old, a no brainer. They are still being supported by the manufacturer!
My prior feeling had been that it was a luxury trinket for people with more money than sense, akin to owning an 'exotic' Italian sports car. However, while a Ferrari may be lovely to drive on a racing circuit or sweeping empty roads, it can't handle the school run, urban roads with speed bumps or traffic jams, a trip to the dump with one's unwanted stuff etc etc. The Leica camera can handle everything with ease. It is a rock solid, tough as old boots camera. Not the flighty fragile thing one would think of as perhaps some would believe. The worst thing about Leica cameras is that most of them are as pristine as the day they were bought, as their owners feel they are far too precious to be taken out and used. I suppose this is why there are so many beautiful models available second-hand. What a waste!
Try and find a pristine Nikon F series. They are usually battered and bruised from a hard life.
As for Leitz lenses, I can't enter the discussion. I've always been a fan of Zeiss so I've kept the faith and have ZM lenses for mine. I have to agree with Terry (above) who also seems to have a great affection for Zeiss. The Contax iia is a lovely camera though quirky. Not as smooth as the M2 but just as good.
Leica SLRs were another matter. I remember when they first appeared and how they were criticised. They were I believe just Minoltas under the skin. They weren't even up to date with other SLRs of their time.
Great post Hamish, I look forward to the follow ups.
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Terry B replied:

Comment posted: 26/02/2018

Jeremy, you're right about my affection for Zeiss, especially the four models of Contax, although I do own three of the last models of Contaflex, two 16-on Super Ikontas, an Ikoflex 1c, and the Contarex Super, model 2, making up the small collection. To redress the balance, I own two Leica IIIf's, M3 and M6, Leicaflex (first version) SL2, R3 and R7. Responding to you belief that Leica SLR's are all based on Minolta collaboration, this is not so. Models produced prior to the R3, the Leicaflex, SL and SL2 are pure Leica, and feel like it. Big, heavy and exquisitely engineered. Today, I suspect many would find them cumbersome. Minolta collaboration only began with the R3 (Minolta XE series) and R4 (Minolta XD).

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Damir Anic on The Leica Mystique: The Brand vs. The Camera

Comment posted: 26/02/2018

I was always dreaming of a Leica, but they have been longtime out of my budget or I had other ideas in my head.
So I started to shot with Canon point & shoot, then I felt that I need better lens and more control over my pictures so I bought a Panasonic with an integrated Leica lens. After this episode I went for Nikon DSLR D60/D7000/D500. I was very happy with my Nikons but over the years my gear grew, more Nikkor glass and always heavier . Two years ago my father gave me his old Olympus OM40 with nice glass. So I started shooting film , started with developing and so on. My desire for a Leica grew more. Last year I finally bought my first Leica a M2 from 1961 in a wonderful condition. I took the camera with me to our family vacation. I fell even more in love. The smooth action, wow. I decided to sell my D500 since it was collecting dust. Don't get me wrong, I loved it but it was like an machine gun. Very fast , accurate and also very heavy with the lenses and batterie packs. That was my main reason why it was collecting dust. I have the feeling the M2 improved my photography, now I had to use an external meter and I was in command of the whole process. How ever I ended up to sell also my D7000 and many Nikkor lenses. With this money in the bank I made an crazy decision instead of buying an Sony A7 II I bought a Leica M8. I never looked back. Now I am enjoying my Leica M8 and M2 together. The M8 it's by far not perfect. But if you know the limitation (ISO etc.) and you are OK with it, it's a beautiful tool to work with. In my opinion the RAW files are most of the time just fine to use, not much postproduction is needed. The biggest advantage of my Leica is the portability. I have the cameras now every time with me. It's a joy to use .
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Greg May on The Leica Mystique: The Brand vs. The Camera

Comment posted: 26/02/2018

Well written Hamish.

My first Leica was bought with money after the untimely death of my father. He'd always wanted one, but never bought one despite having more than enough spare money to do so. Aspiring to ownership but never committing to it saddens me. Certainly for many they are outside the range of ownership and thus they cast dispersions on those who do. Often the way in our modern world.

Personally, I see it as follows: if a person want to become a Leica shooter, they should do so if they have the opportunity to do so. Maybe they have to work harder and save more. Maybe they just have to wait a lot longer than they'd hope. But hunger is the best sauce, and time only makes it better. Certainly they may purchase it, dislike it and sell it on, or they may not and then they learn how in many ways they are quite compromised, but in others, bring joy with every use. But they will have tried, and that is what matters to many. To hold, and to try, a camera with a little red dot.

In the end of the day though, let us be blunt, they are a tool with which to take photos with. No more.

For some people it will always be about owning the best. For others, about what works for their needs and methods. Figure out which you are, be honest about it, then move along the path. Hopefully, with some memorable images.
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Richard Taylor replied:

Comment posted: 26/02/2018

Great comment Greg. I too decided on a Leica after the death of both mother and maternal grandfather close together. I'd already settled on an x100f as my every day shooter, and couple of useful L series lenses for my partners Canon DSLR. I'd been following 35mmc and (like him or loath him) Eric Kim for a good few months and was interested in keeping a hand in with a film camera. Thus 'opportunity and motive' presented themselves I became the custodian of a Leica MP. I say custodian in so much as in time my x100f, the DLSR and assorted 35mm film curiosities I've picked up will all be reduced to some thing less than they are now. But like a watch or classic car that begs to be taken out and used, eventually my MP will become someone else's, and with care and an occasional tinker, will never be anything less than a Leica MP. Now, I also have a good lead on a Olympus 35 SP in good nick too, one careful owner, always kept cased. Bit more about that another time.

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theo vervloet on The Leica Mystique: The Brand vs. The Camera

Comment posted: 26/02/2018

Thank Hamish for your text. If some still doubt about Leica, follow the Facebook page "The Leica Portrait Group". Everyday Wonderfull portraits from over the world. Everyone so proud upon their working camera.
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NigelH on The Leica Mystique: The Brand vs. The Camera

Comment posted: 26/02/2018

Thanks for starting this series Hamish. I'm not a Leica owner and have never tried one but I am curious as to what is so special and it's hard to find objective information about them. Opinion as you say is divided online and beyond being quiet the positives seem to be very intangible such as you have to feel one to understand. One day I imagine I will get to try one but it is a big investment and one I can't really justify buying one right now (also need to reduce my ever growing collection). Looking forward to the next installment :)
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Hamish Gill replied:

Comment posted: 26/02/2018

Thanks Nigel, I shall do my best to be as descriptive and as objective as possible :)

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Terry B replied:

Comment posted: 26/02/2018

Nigel, finding objective, unbiased opinions about Leica just via the printed word will be hard. Opinions range from idolaters to downright haters. The truth lies somewhere in between. You can glean aspects of using a Leica from reading user experiences such a those here from Hamish, why shooting with a rangefinder provides a somewhat different shooting experience to an SLR, for example. There are real differences in versatility compared to an slr, for example. Is this important, or not? But no words can substitute for hands-on experience. You wouldn't buy a car without a test drive, would you? This is a problem only exacerbated by the demise of the High Street photographic retailer and the rise in internet shopping. We have far, far fewer opportunities to get our hands on cameras these days.

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Neil replied:

Comment posted: 26/02/2018

Agree with this last paragraph totally Terry. You can only read about these things from afar, actually handling them in the flesh or trying them out remains something of a dream for many. I'm fortunate in that their is a Leica store in Manchester, and also a very good camera shop selling used cameras, so in theory I could go and have a look but I try to stay away from the Leica store, too depressing and frustrating for a pauper like me!

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Benson on The Leica Mystique: The Brand vs. The Camera

Comment posted: 29/12/2018

Film camera bodies, whether made of solid gold or plastic, primarily serve just one main purpose- To open and close the shutter. They have zero impact on picture quality. (Assuming properly calibrated, good working order, no light leaks and the obvious) So any decent quality body will do essentially the same thing. For me, what separated Leica apart, was the look of their glass. And for people after that certain look, prepare to pay the mark-up as a violinist buy a Stradivarius. One will need to pay insane amounts for that 1% or 2% of difference. This is why I never understood people shooting non-Leica lenses on their Leica bodies, does that not defeat the whole damn purpose of shooting a Leica?
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Hamish Gill replied:

Comment posted: 29/12/2018

So as someone who has a preference for rangefinder cameras, has tried almost every m-mount rangefinder camera that’s ever been made and prefers a Leica M4-P to all of them, am I still unjustified in preferring Zeiss and Voigtlander lenses to Leica lenses on my Leica?

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WilliamBanzai7 on The Leica Mystique: The Brand vs. The Camera

Comment posted: 22/04/2019

Anyone else heard rumours of a Gary Winogrand Signature Stratocaster?
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Kris Hooper replied:

Comment posted: 22/04/2019

@WILLIAMBANZAI7 Haha. That was the joke this comment thread needed.

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David on The Leica Mystique: The Brand vs. The Camera

Comment posted: 15/05/2019

From the time I got an M2 and heard that silky shutter "click" I have been hooked. I also have used Canon 7s but the shutter just does not approach a Leica in smoothness. Plus the rangefinder spot is so clear and bright on the M2 you could hardly miss being correctly focused. Leica aficionados are not just a bunch of snobs gloating over their expensive gear. They have at one point or another been bowled over by a finely engineered machine that delivers beauty to those who know how to use it .
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Hamish Gill replied:

Comment posted: 15/05/2019

Indeed, I have a whole load of the things myself - they are the best cameras I own

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patrick j clarke on The Leica Mystique: The Brand vs. The Camera

Comment posted: 20/01/2022

Old post, but as I've been shooting with my digital Leica for over a year now and find it the right tool for what I want to do and how I like to shoot (won't go into detail here), I ask myself why I don't have one for film. I then go to my plethora of rangefinders I have and not a single one of them has as good a rangefinder, or "ease of use" and "modern comforts" as my digital Leica...I then look at the M7 and think, well damn, not even it is quite there for what I want in a film rangefinder to match with the M240. Maybe the Hexar RF?
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