Editing, manipulating, lying, fake – towards an agreement of the meaning of words

By Peter Schu

Who put the cigarette filters there?

There seems not to be a real consensus about photo editing and photo authenticity. The discussion is lively and appears to be endless. So, why should one care? I think that it is an important discussion, because it is about facts and fake. A discussion, which is important way beyond photography. I will try to keep it short, focused and simple. It is in fact quite simple, I believe. I don’t want to start a discussion here, I only want to try to stipulate a rethinking of the problem.There should be a consensus about what kind of pictures we call a photograph. Languages are based on conventions and communication is only possible, if the majority accepts these conventions. A simple example. If somebody would decide to call a table a chair and a chair a table, misunderstandings would be the consequence and communication impossible.

What is the definition of a photograph?

The name describes the technique: drawing a picture by light (photons). A photograph shows a moment in time and viewers will think that the depicted scene existed at the moment of exposure. It doesn’t matter how the scene was recorded. Focal length, aperture, color or b&w, filters, exposure time, movements during long exposure times, and so on only effect how a scene will appear in the photograph.

Editing, yes or no?

Editing a photograph can be a technical necessity. Analog film, scanned film or digital photographs have a much higher dynamic range than paper, which has a dynamic range of only about eight stops. Therefore, printing a photograph requires an adaptation of the dynamic range and the kind of adaptation depends on the paper type. Glossy papers, matte papers, cotton papers, baryta papers etc., all require different adaptations of a photograph for its transfer onto paper. Cropping is the equivalent of a zoom lens. You change how a scene is depicted, but you don’t change the scene.

Which kind of editing turns a photograph into a pixelgraph or a collage?

Removing or adding elements of a scene is a process which creates a different scene, a scene which never existed. It changes what we see. The result can not be called a photograph anymore. It hasn’t been done very often in analog photography, because it requires technical skills and a lot of time. Now, a software does this in split seconds and therefore nowadays it is done regularly. All the new tools advertised in current photo editing software version adds are to be used to alter the scene recorded as a photograph. It is becoming easier to add or to remove elements or to change a midday scene into a sunset scene or a blue hour scene. Their business has a huge impact on what people consider as being real or fake. We should all keep an eye on these developments. The image created using such tools still looks like a photograph and it will be seen as a moment in time. If such editing processes aren’t pointed out to the viewers, a lie is created. Lying has always been the purpose of such editing processes. Most often for political reasons. Numerous examples of fake analog photos have been published. My favorites are those with some imperfections, like this group photo of soviet leaders, in which one person’s head had been removed, but not his feet.
Editing processes, which do not alter the entire image alter the scene selectively and thus create a new scene which never existed. Increasing the contrast of selected areas for example, thereby darkening a selected shadow so that what is in the shadow can’t be seen anymore, changes what can be seen selectively. It has the same effect as cloning something out. The image doesn’t fulfill the definition of a photograph anymore. If all shadows in an image are darkened in the same way by increasing the contrast, a viewer is able to understand, that what might be hidden in the shadows should not be recognizable. Viewers might wonder, but they are able to understand that this is the way the photographer shows the scene. Viewers are not purposely mislead.

Manipulation in photography

The use and meaning of the term manipulation has been changed in the past centuries. Originally, it had been used to describe activities using a hand; latin ‚manus‘ means hand. However, nowadays, the term is used to describe methods which alter a persons perception for the benefit of another person. Therefore, the term should not be used to describe the editing processes of photographs. Describing photo editing processes which alter a scene as a manipulation, hides what is really the goal of the type of such editing processes. It is the purposeful alteration of messages to alter peoples perception in a specific way. This is a dangerous development for any society.

The points I am discussing don’t cover everything the technology of photography can be used for, especially by artists. Several artists used and still use the power of photography for their art. The work of A. Gursky, a photo painter, is a perfect example. His images appear to be photographs, but are in fact pixelgraphs. He exaggerates and he creates scenes and views no human eye has ever seen, but what if…

Chicago Borad of Trade II - Andreas Gursky 1999
Chicago Board of Trade II, Andreas Gursky, Date: 1999 Source: https://www.wikiart.org/de/andreas-gursky/chicago-board-of-trade-ii-1999

 

 

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By Peter Schu
I started photography about 45 years ago after moving to my university town. I photographed everything which caught my attention. Only now, since I am retired, I consider to work on projects. I have a large library of b&w and colour photographs and I am browsing my libraries to see whether I can make a photo book or two. The goal is not a book, but working with my photos. I use digital cameras, when the technology offers advantages over analog photography. However, analog photography is so much more rewarding for me.
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Bob Janes on Editing, manipulating, lying, fake – towards an agreement of the meaning of words

Comment posted: 13/11/2025

It is an interesting topic, but I disagree with your level of dogma.
A photograph is a two-dimensional, static depiction, often in monochrome of a three dimensional scene which exists in time and has colour and depth. Simply by positioning the camera and pointing the lens in a particular direction, photographers ‘edit’ what appears in the final photograph. Reality has already been left at the door.
Manipulation is an essential part of photography and has been since the beginning – we need to manipulate the latent image to make it visible and we need to fix it to make it permanent. Manipulation of an image to affect what is seen has long been a part of analogue photography – some of it did take great technical skills and time, but some if it was quite heavy handed (the same can be said of modern ‘photoshopped’ pictures).
We accept that the model in Man Ray’s ‘Le Violon d’Ingres’ did not really have sound holes in her back, and it doesn’t really matter if they were painted onto the model or added to the negative after the fact. It’s not a lie and it is still a photograph, as well as a work of art.
While I admire the wish for clarity, I’m afraid none of us can redefine the meaning of a word like photography. I would point out that, in writing this piece, you are attempting to manipulate the attitudes of your readers, just as I, in turn, am attempting to counter to manipulate your view and that of other readers.
Many thanks for the mental stimulation though :-)
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Hamish Gill replied:

Comment posted: 13/11/2025

I had a feeling this post would trigger some interesting discussion - excellent counterpoint, Bob!

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Peter Schu replied:

Comment posted: 13/11/2025

You missed my point, I guess, and in a way I just wanted to prevent. I obviously failed. I didn't express my thoughts about photography. I want to clarify what images or pictures which come out of a photographic process can still be called a photograph. Terms like 'truth' and 'reality' don't have anything to do with that. What is your meaning of truth in the context of photography? What is your meaning of the term reality in the context of photography? The meaning of these terms very much depend on the context in which they are being used. Throwing these terms in the discussion just distract from the real problem. A photograph shows a point of view and a perspective of a scene, which existed in a moment in time. I was looking for a english term which would be a good translation of the german word 'Augenblick'. It contains eye and view. A moment in time describes it's meaning to, but in a very much different way.

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Ibraar Hussain replied:

Comment posted: 13/11/2025

I actually agree with Peter.

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Bob Janes replied:

Comment posted: 13/11/2025

So like the 'Decisive moment'? Personally, I would opt for a very broad definition of 'photograph'. There are photographs I like and others I don't care for; but they are all photographs. Where I see no merit, it is quite possible I'm right, but there is also the possibility I simply don't understand. It would be a boring world where we understood everything, or where we all agreed.

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Ibraar Hussain replied:

Comment posted: 13/11/2025

In some parts I meant

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Peter Schu replied:

Comment posted: 13/11/2025

Again, it is not about what or how you photograph. It is whether you show a scene, which really existed for a moment.

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Roger on Editing, manipulating, lying, fake – towards an agreement of the meaning of words

Comment posted: 13/11/2025

One place where these issues are, in my opinion, sensibly discussed is in the Natural Landscape Photography Awards at https://naturallandscapeawards.com/rules/.

An additional complication is that the human eye may not see scenes in the same way as either film or a digital sensor. Perhaps a manipulated HDR image could be closer to what a human would see looking at the scene, because the eye would adjust when moving from light to dark areas. Also, film and sensors differ in ways that include dynamic range and the rendering of colours. How should we view taking a digital image and darkening shadows (and maybe adding grain) etc to make it look identical to how the image would have been if shot on film?
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Peter Schu replied:

Comment posted: 13/11/2025

You missed my point in a way I actaully wanted to prevent. You discuss photography. I wanted to clarify what kind of images produced by a photographic process can be called photograph. It is actually dead simple. Just one example. Yes our vision is different, mainly in a way we 'see' colors. However, that is completely irrelevant in this discussion. A photograph in black & white still shows a scene, which existed in time, and colors are translated in shades of gray. My point is, that it is irrelevent how a scene is being depicted in the contex of this discussion. What is relevant, is adding or removing objects or elements of a scene and changing the light so the time of day is being changed.

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Roger replied:

Comment posted: 13/11/2025

Sorry if I misinterpreted your comment, though I hope my comment has given you the opportunity to clarify your argument by explaining what you are not doing. However, I am not sure that the distinction between these two is as sharp as you imply,

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Stewart Waller on Editing, manipulating, lying, fake – towards an agreement of the meaning of words

Comment posted: 13/11/2025

In photojournalism at UNC in the early 90s, we discussed the ethics of photography as it applies to journalism a good deal, and what was and wasn't acceptable to still call a photograph, or by contrast a photo-illustration. Now, this is only in terms of journalism in general, and American journalism in particular—at the dawn of digital, and later at continuing ed workshops at UNC, Duke and even a visit to National Geographic and years later a meet-up with Nat Geo YourShot in the the 2014.

The general rule was anything you could easily do in a darkroom, such as burning, dodging, cropping, contrast, to make the image look more like it looked to the photographer at the time, but maybe not exactly how the film recorded it with its limitations (dynamic range, for example). However, something overly wrought, with something added or removed, or a double exposure, even, to achieve the desired dynamic range of say, a lighted building at night, would have to be called a photo illustration. Removing something like a stray bird from the sky in the distance was absolutely unacceptable, but digitally removing a spot where dust had spoiled the image was at least a subject of debate. Many American photographers lost their jobs at papers doing more, like changing the color of the sky for drama, without alerting the editors to this alteration.

I went on to work mostly in marketing, ironically, where no such ethical constraints apply. At 63, I still work in a product studio 40 hours a week, and nothing I photograph could be considered, IMO, a photograph by the end of the editing process. I work in photo illustration, making everything look better than real, and increasingly faker than real because that's what viewers are becoming used to. And everything is also a collaboration, so I can't really even call what I make art.

In my free time, I continue practicing photography as I was trained, producing images in-camera digitally and on film with minimal post processing work outside of sharpening, exposure and contrast and sometimes a little cropping. Not because there's a moral imperative, but because that's what I enjoy most about photography.
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Peter Schu replied:

Comment posted: 13/11/2025

You, like others here, talk about the technology and not so much about what should be called a photograph. A photograph only shows a fraction of a scene, from one point of view. It should show the scene from that point and with that lens. Period. Therefore these philosophic terms 'truth' and 'reality' can't be used in this context. They go way beyond what a single photograph can show. However, a photograph doesn't depict a scene, which never existed. We can lie with words and we can lie with photographs. How do we recognize a lie?

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David Pauley on Editing, manipulating, lying, fake – towards an agreement of the meaning of words

Comment posted: 13/11/2025

I appreciate your thoughtful perspective on authenticity in photography, but I must respectfully disagree with your strict distinction between a “photograph” and what you call a “pixelgraph.” While I share your concern about misleading manipulation, I think photography has always been interpretive rather than purely factual. From the moment a photographer chooses a lens, angle, or film stock, they’re shaping perception — not simply recording reality. Dodging and burning in the darkroom, for example, can profoundly alter mood and meaning without “lying.” Digital tools are an extension of that creative process, not necessarily a betrayal of it.

The idea that a photograph must represent an untouched moment seems too narrow for a medium that has always balanced documentation and expression. Transparency about editing is crucial, yes — but art and communication thrive on nuance, not rigid definitions. Photography’s strength lies precisely in that gray area between truth and interpretation.

NOTE TO READERS: the above 2 paragraphs were written not by me but by chatGTP in about 2 seconds. I include them here to point out what a strange new world we've entered into. Thanks for your provocative piece, Peter. - David Pauley
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Peter Schu replied:

Comment posted: 13/11/2025

Brilliant comment! Thank you very much. Also chatGTP just throws in terms to create a weird gemisch of words everybody will be lost in. The same industry which programs such software makes it's money by fogging clear and simple thoughts. So, why should one be surprised? Their strategy is dead simple. Destroy the conventions our communication is based on, namely the meaning of words, so that the people will be lost. In the end, there will be only fights, no discussions, agreements won't be possible anymore. We should be able to work on agreements in very confined contexts, like the one I tried to define here. All science starts with reductionism to achive short, simple questions and a clear view of a problem. This is a prerquisite to come to an answer or a solution of a problem.

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Jalan on Editing, manipulating, lying, fake – towards an agreement of the meaning of words

Comment posted: 13/11/2025

Into the Lion's Den with you Peter! Many years ago my roommate was a audiophile. He picked up a "white noise" equalizer. The unit had a microphone and what you did was move the mic around the room while adjusting the equalizer. After hours of effort you ended up with your stereo system perfectly tuned for the acoustics of your room. Now you could listen the the purest sound possible! So he put on a record album and listened to perfect music for 10 minutes. "That sounds like shit!" he exclaimed and cranked the bass up!
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Peter Schu replied:

Comment posted: 13/11/2025

I don't get what you want to say with this example. I can just guess, that you compare your roommate, who was looking for the perfect sound, with me, looking for what....? I want to achive an agreement on the meaning of a word. Not for any technical perfection. He blended out any distrubing reflections of sound and than he wondered why it didn't sound realistic? He used the wrong tool to achieve his goal.

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Jalan replied:

Comment posted: 13/11/2025

Thanks Peter, I think I get what you are getting at after reading other comments. My story makes the point that e3verything is subjective - there is no way to get absolute agreement on what music should sound like or what a photograph is. All words are made up - including the spelling and pronouncements. Who decides what a "photograph" is? Who is this mythical and all knowing pedant who decides, Humpty-Dumpty? "When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean- neither more nor less." "The question is," said Alice, "whether you can make words mean so many different things." "The question is," said Humpty Dumpty, "which is to be master-that's all." Cheers and thanks for the thoughtful discussion.... PS - The only real "photographs" are made using wet plate collodion - film is totally artificial and totally manipulated!

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Neal Wellons on Editing, manipulating, lying, fake – towards an agreement of the meaning of words

Comment posted: 13/11/2025

I would like to mention your first line about cigarette filters and see if I am following you. If I want to take a close-up picture but first remove a cigarette filter from the scene and then shoot, it will still be a photograph. But if you see a photo where you know I removed the filter with an editing program, you would call it a pixelgraph.
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Peter Schu replied:

Comment posted: 13/11/2025

Yes and I agree that this may seem silly, because the end result is the same. However, I would draw this line for the sake of clarity. Please, think about this example the other way around. What if you placed these filters there digitally, or manually or whether a mouse collected them and placed them there for some reason. The latter was actually the case. Therefore, it was worth for me taking that photograph. The whole is next to a bench at a small rewilding area. Now why would you collect these filters, place them there and take the photograph? You would present it without explaining that you did it. One would think, how cool, what a crazy mouse, why does it do something like that? If you would explain that you did collect them and placed them there, what would people think of you? It also wouldn't make a difference for them, if you would have done this manually or digitally. Fact is, it is being done frequently, because the software does it for you. The software is being advertised now a days mainly for such tools, which are getting better and better. That's why many people just use it, without really thinking what they are actually doing. In a way, they lie at themselves.

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Gary Smith on Editing, manipulating, lying, fake – towards an agreement of the meaning of words

Comment posted: 13/11/2025

I suppose your point isn't clear. I further suppose that we all have already adequately defined "photograph" prior to reading your article. Each of us likely has an accepted internal spectrum on "fake" or "lying" as it pertains to our own definition of "photograph". I'm perfectly happy with removing things from what the camera captured that could easily be removed (like picking up trash). I don't think that moving a pyramid to allow a photo to fit a predefined space on a magazine page is OK. I'm fine with moving the same pyramid if it is only ever going to hang on my wall.
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Peter Schu replied:

Comment posted: 13/11/2025

I also got the impression from some comments, that the people didn't really digest what I wrote, because it has been discussed so often and they just reactivated previous opinions. I was prepared that some people are tired of this discussion, but I thought that it is nevertheless worthwhile to post my thoughts. In fact, during the time the post was waiting in line, I was thinking whether I should just retract it. I replied to this cigarette filters question, which is close to what you wrote. So, I don't repeat myself and just ask you to refer to what I wrote to Neal. Thanks for your comment.

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Gary Smith replied:

Comment posted: 13/11/2025

Peter, it's good to talk about this otherwise we just all crawl into our own heads. Thanks for your post!

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Gordon Ownby on Editing, manipulating, lying, fake – towards an agreement of the meaning of words

Comment posted: 13/11/2025

In this area, I think that disclosure is important. Here is a section of my website that deals with how I 'manipulate' my photos. It is a mix of traditional darkroom practices and current technology:

"Some Words on Digital Technology:

"After starting photography using film and a traditional darkroom, I now use digital workflow tools to assist in creating impactful photographs. For both film and digital captures, I use photography software to shade, highlight, and tone images, adjust exposure, colors, contrast, and sharpness, adjust digital 'noise" and 'grain,' correct lens distortion, remove dust and scratches, and upscale digital files. No element within my photographs has been added, moved, diminished, or removed (other than incident to cropping or shading) using digital technology."

In practice, I have taken this approach to leave in my photos even a bird's small unwanted speck in the sky.
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Gary Smith replied:

Comment posted: 13/11/2025

I'll often remove tiny bird "specs" in both digital and scanned film images. I will also denoise film scans as well as doing a bit of sharpening. I think in the end that it all depends on who is going to see your photos. In my case it's usually just me.

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Leon Winnert replied:

Comment posted: 13/11/2025

Gordon, I applaud your approach and honesty. The Royal Photographic Society and the Photographic Alliance of Great Britain both have strict rules in respect of manipulation of photographs being entered for accreditation, competition and exhibition purposes. Any form of AI manipulation is prohibited if it involves the creation of software manufactured pixels. An example would be removal of a tree say and then AI then creates new pixels to fill in the gap to match. They have no difficulty with say copy and pasting a sky layer from another of your photos to improve impact or interest for an entry. But all pixels in the final picture must have been created in camera by you. YOUR pixels! And only your pixels are permitted as they hammer home. So with the exception of, upscaling your declared approach is bang on the money where the RPS and PAGB are concerned. As upscaling includes the addition of software generated pixels they prohibit its use, as they are not your pixels. Any transgression of their rules can easily be checked by them requesting the original RAW file for comparison purposes. I believe I am correct in saying that Natural Geographic has had this rule in place for some time. All submissions must be accompanied by the original raw file. Or in the old days, copies of the original transparency or negative.

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Ibraar Hussain on Editing, manipulating, lying, fake – towards an agreement of the meaning of words

Comment posted: 13/11/2025

I must say peter I agree with everything you wrote
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Ibraar Hussain replied:

Comment posted: 13/11/2025

Or rather About what’s a photograph But the rest went over my head somewhat

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Peter Schu replied:

Comment posted: 13/11/2025

Thanks Ibraar. It is not wrong to take the time required. I thought quit some time about this problem, before I decided to summarize my thoughts in a short post.

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Jeffery Luhn on Editing, manipulating, lying, fake – towards an agreement of the meaning of words

Comment posted: 13/11/2025

Peter,
This is a very provocative subject. Thanks for your perspective. I do agree that the 'purity' of an image, especially when it's being presented as a real moment in time, is important. The main examples that comes to mind are photojournalistic photos that should be depended upon for realism. The need for honesty in this regard should be obvious, but most viewers either cannot or will not object to altered photojournalistic images. It takes effort. The cure for that, and this will never happen, is to certify unaltered photos in the same way that 'organic' and 'non-GMO' foods are labeled.

I'm a film guy, but I teach two digital classes at the college in addition to the film class. I say right up front, "There is no photograph that cannot be improved by Photoshop. I grant all of you free reign to manipulate your submissions, but if they look overdone or technically awful, your grades will reflect the shortcomings. There are a couple of assignments of a photojournalistic goal where alterations will not be accepted. It's my hope that students will gain a lasting appreciation between the two kinds of assignments."
In the end, Peter, the genie is out of the bottle and people are becoming distrustful of all photos. That's sad, but predictable.
Jeffery
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Peter Schu replied:

Comment posted: 13/11/2025

Thanks for your comment. One shouldn't underestimate the influence one can have as a teacher, especially in the long run. I am just happy that the digital natives start to use analog processes. They do it for sure for different reasons, but it shows that the analog and tactile experiences still make a difference. All serious photo competitions require the submission of RAW image files, when a photo won a prize. That should be pointed out occasionally.

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Scott Ferguson on Editing, manipulating, lying, fake – towards an agreement of the meaning of words

Comment posted: 13/11/2025

Hi Peter,
I enjoyed thinking about the meaning of the word ‘photograph’ and while I don’t think your definition and accompanying restrictions are unreasonable or indefensible, I’m not sure I’m that fussed about it when a manipulation is done for creative reasons in the production of a piece of art or for that matter, commercial illustration. If an artist retouches a photograph in a way that colors outside of the lines that you define here, I’m ok if you don’t want to call it a photograph, but I’ll confess that I’m not bothered and calling it something like a pixel graph feels a bit fussier than useful or interesting. I rarely paint anything out of my photos, partly because I’m not very good at it, but I once removed the logo of a corporate hotel chain from a photo of an ice castle on Lake Louise, and still think of the resultant image as a photograph. I am fussed when a manipulation is done to deceive as propaganda or to hurt someone such as a deepfake or revenge porn and the like. I think the rules you suggest and others have commented on make total sense for anyone who is presents a photograph as photojournalism. I also think there are legit issues where people should retain certain rights to approve of any deceptive retouching of their images — I’ve had actress friends who complain if they see images where they feel their body type has been improved too much because of the pressure that might put on their young fans. I think there are many really interesting issues to dig into in this conversation, but I’m not sure that the definition of the word ‘photograph’ is as important to me as the meaning, impact and intent of the kinds of manipulations you note in the piece. But thanks for making me think, the conversation itself has been quite interesting.
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Peter Schu replied:

Comment posted: 13/11/2025

Thanks for your comment. When a photograph is being used as a starting point to create a piece of art, we talk about a totally different process. This is why I mentioned the photoartist Gursky in my post. There is youtube channel by a team of german professional photographers, called 'krolop & gerst'. There is an episode, in which Martin Krolop talks about feeling guilty that a model underwent surgery, so her look matches better the digitally improved photos of her. I have so much respect for that video.

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Scott Ferguson replied:

Comment posted: 13/11/2025

Hey Peter, I'm a little confused, are you confining your position on the categorization of 'photographs' solely to photographs made as documentary/photojournalism? And leaving personal/art/commercial photos out of the discussion? While I might agree with the boundaries you are setting for what qualifies or disqualifies photojournalism, I think the word 'photograph' is bigger and more encompassing than documentary photography, so I'm not sure it makes sense to apply the standards of one genre of photography -- photojournalism -- to the concept of what qualifies as a photograph in any manifestation of the medium. There probably is a boundary between a 'photograph' and some other medium of expression, like photo collage, or a photogram and I think artists are generally already using those kinds of terms when they apply and are often transparent about their creative process in treating photographs for certain effects that are not a simple and straightforward rendering of reality. But as so many other readers have pointed out there are so many ways any type of photograph alters/interprets reality that I think I would draw the line between 'photography' and 'not photography' in a different place than you have. I'm not bothered by examples like mine where I preferred to remove a corporate logo from any otherwise non-manipulated image, or LaSousa's example where he intended to frame something out, but when he saw it on the scan he painted it out. To me, those kind of relatively innocuous edits don't change the meaning or the impact of a photograph in a material way, and may have less impact than things you allow like the digital equivalent of burning and dodging that can dramatically change the emotional impact of an image. I also think the term 'pixelgraph' doesn't quite cover the scope and scale of the issue you are raising because you can materially alter a photograph using purely photochemical tools where no pixels are involved. This has been going on more or less as long as photography itself. According to Google AI, "Photo retouching started in 1846, just a year after the patent for the first practical photographic process was filed. Calvert Richard Jones is credited with performing the first known retouching, where he physically blotted out a person from a paper negative to remove them from the final print." I think the horses left the barn too long ago to start re-categorizing all photographs that have been retouched using any kind of technique and coining some new term for them. Maybe it's simpler to call something like this a 'retouched photograph.' Works for me.

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Peter Schu replied:

Comment posted: 13/11/2025

It is not about retouching or not, it is about how you retouched it. I don't understand why so many people talk about the details of the technology. Photography as a tool to communicate with photographs has its limitations, which are inherent to the technology. Everybody who takes photographs knows that and it's nothing one has to talk about. If it is a problem, it is unlikely that you take photographs. I also pointed that retouching can be a necessity. It is inherent to the technology. One should be honest about what has been done with the photograph and use a descriptive nomenclature. All serious photo competitions request the submission of RAW files from prize winners. Why do they do that? It is dead simple.

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Scott Ferguson replied:

Comment posted: 13/11/2025

Hey Peter, First and foremost, I really appreciate the post and the spirited conversation that has ensued. It has made me think and try to refine my own ideas on interesting matters related to photography. I agree with the majority of what you are saying here and throughout, but continue to bump on two issues, one is where you are drawing the boundaries between what is a photograph and what is not a photograph, the other is your proposal to call a certain type of retouched photograph a "pixelgraph". My point in discussing the technology of retouching was because your chosen term has an inherent technological bias towards one form and technology for retouching, and so would not encompass all photos that are retouched in the manner you are objecting to. I don't have a problem with the ground rules for photo contests, or calls for transparency in terms of how an image came into the form it is displayed in (I noted my retouching in the 35mmc post with the ice castle photo), but I'm struggling with the idea that we need an entirely new word and typological construct that would split what we've been calling and thinking of as photographs for 180 years into photographs (that may be extensively modified) and non-photographs (modified in one proscribed manner.) In practice, I don't think inventing a new word that privileges one type of modified image as 'purer' and having more integrity than another kind of modified image that has crossed a rigid unbending line so that it is being demoted from the status of being a photograph to some lesser type of image is all that useful for advancing the medium of photography or encourage creativity. Again, I think we already have the words to describe the phenomenon you are raising, 'retouched photographs.'

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Peter Schu replied:

Comment posted: 13/11/2025

High Scott, I am struggling to and that actually motivated me to try to summarize my thouhgts in a short post. I agree that 'retouched photograph' is a descriptive term, but I just believe that it is not really precise. We have to agree on a term, which informs us about how the photograph has been retouched. Almost every photo has to be retouched for a reproductive processes. I just like to have a term, which indicates that elements of a scene have been removed or that elements have been added, or that the sky has been replaced and so on. All such editing processes are being done, because a viewer will think that this scene existed for a moment. This expectation is the basis of the work of the photo artist A. Gursky. That demonstrates the power of the photographic technology, which we have to try to preserve. I believe that the development of new retouching tools and technologies also requires the expansion of our current vocabulary to clearly describe how an image has been created. Thank you for sharing your thoughts.

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Scott Ferguson replied:

Comment posted: 13/11/2025

Hey Peter, I appreciate the value of seeking more precise terminology, but my instinct/recommendation would be leave the noun "photograph" alone and focus on finding the right adjectives/modifiers to describe the nature of the alterations. A photo that has something removed might be an "edited photograph", a photo that has something added or moved might be an "enhanced" or "augmented" photograph or a photo collage depending on the scope of the additions. In any event, thanks for starting a very interesting thread and discussion here! It has been fun to follow. Best, s

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Keith Shearon on Editing, manipulating, lying, fake – towards an agreement of the meaning of words

Comment posted: 14/11/2025

How about the word “imaginaph” for something that has been transformed from a photograph?

I do not believe the word photograph is so sacred. But I am not opposed to using “photograph” for unretouched images from a camera, and “imaginaph” for retouched images.

Photographs have always been manipulated. David Hurn and Garry Winogrand both said where you stand and when you release the shutter are not only the choices you have in making a photograph, but because the choice is yours, the resulting image is your version of how the thing looked.

I do agree that changing the entire meaning of a photograph that has already been captured to something different than what was intended by the photographer is at least kin to propaganda.
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Peter Schu replied:

Comment posted: 14/11/2025

Thanks for your comment. The photographer decides how a scene is being depicted, by going for a stand point, by using a certain focal lenght, aperture, color profile, gey scale and so on. That is simply his or her handwriting. However, they should not alter the scene as it appears in the photograph. There are many terms, one can use for altered photographs and imaginaph is a good one to. I read 'promtograph' for AI generated images. The more differentiated our vocabulary gets, the better we can talk about our thoughts and ideas.

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LASousa on Editing, manipulating, lying, fake – towards an agreement of the meaning of words

Comment posted: 14/11/2025

I took a benign picture last night of a pizza truck. A picnic table to the left cast an interesting geometric patterned shadow. When I loaded the image for processing a small corner of the picnic table was included above the shadow. I was shooting a fixed lens camera and framed to avoid the table. I used an erase tool to remove the tiny corner. The final image reflected my intent to capture a scene I found interesting. Did I not make a photograph? The concept of unedited photographs has left the barn irrevocably. Right or wrong, what a photographer wants to express from images made with a camera or phone using processing tools has stampeded the method. In my view, use of processing tools is also a means of self expression, even if there is heavy editing. I am by no means a fan of using AI or other heavy editing or razor sharpness. Give me a Holga and I am happy as a clam with the imperfection. I view photography even in current form as an artistic process of expression of the self. By the way, if I do photograph cigarette butts, in most cases it is intentional! Having said this, I think I understand how you, like all of us, are struggling to navigate the evolution of our common passion. Thank you for your post. Louis.
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Keith Shearon replied:

Comment posted: 14/11/2025

Ditto

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Peter Schu replied:

Comment posted: 14/11/2025

Thank you for your comment. Any editing, which just alters how a scene is depicted is fine for me. I also use a stamp tool, but just to remove dust and scratches. I alter the gamma curve, contrast saturation etc. depending on what paper I want to print a photograph. These editing steps don't change the scene or what can be seen. The image maintains its properties, which makes it to a photograph. I would never remove power lines for example in post. I would just not take the photo in the first place. I don't want to create a scene, I didn't see and which might even never exist. I actaully embrace the imperfections of human beings, because they make us to individuals and I also like to point out imperfections in photographs.

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Geoff Chaplin on Editing, manipulating, lying, fake – towards an agreement of the meaning of words

Comment posted: 14/11/2025

If I take a photo in b&w it is already far from reality. Similarly a colour photo is far from reality - the colours are never right. If I make a print or image for the web I might lose some highlights or lowlights but all of these are still photographs (and I think we agree on this). What distinguishes a photo from a fake image is INTENTION I think. If the intention is to mislead deliberately with the aim of producing consequences beyond artistic then it's fake. Hard to tell looking at a photograph.
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Peter Schu replied:

Comment posted: 14/11/2025

Thank you for your comment. I agree completely. It requires a well 'trained eye' to tell whether a photograph just pretends to be a photograph. There can be characteristics, which make you thinking, but it really takes experts to figure it out. Photo competitions which one can take serious require RAW files and there are these newer camera models, which put a stamp on a file, which will be deleted if the file is being edited. Unfortunately, that won't change what the majority is doing.

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LASousa replied:

Comment posted: 14/11/2025

100%. You touched quite a raw nerve! Note: Lightroom now has an AI dust removal tool! I am curious to see how it performs.

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Alexandre Kreisman on Editing, manipulating, lying, fake – towards an agreement of the meaning of words

Comment posted: 14/11/2025

A lot has been said already. I have to admit that I do not agree with you, that said, for Documentary/historic/journalism photography : yes you are right. For the rest it's up to the artist to express his intention without going too far of course.
Remember that a negative is just a raw image, and that all negatives were worked on at some point: in front of an enlarger, in the minilab machines,...
I shoot 99% film, and thus process my images as I would do in front of an enlarger : change the contrast to have more detail, have a clear palette of shades of grey and some pure black and white, burning and dodging.
If I would take a digital photography, the image is worked in the camera directly has the sensor and modern lenses do not correct parralelism or other artefact due to the glass in the lenses, also the color is also changed in the camera before making the raw file (every camera uses an integrated software). Add to that some minor correction or reframing and if I understood your article well it shouldn't be considered photography but something else ?
Anyway, though subject!
Cheers
Alex
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Peter Schu replied:

Comment posted: 14/11/2025

I tried to make it clear that the discussion is not about the technology and about what artists do, which use a photograph as a starting point for their art. That's why I included the photoartist A. Gursky in my post. So, let us keep that part out of the way. It also doesn't make a difference whether film or some other chemistry or a digital technology is being used. All photographic technologies generate photographs. If you put sun classes on, does that change what you see? It only changes how you see things and that's fine. If one makes single objects disappear or appear, that photographic image resemble a photograph, but it shouldn't be called that anymore, because it is something totally different.

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Bill Brown on Editing, manipulating, lying, fake – towards an agreement of the meaning of words

Comment posted: 14/11/2025

I was not going to comment because I don't think this type of post furthers the enjoyment of image making. I've dabbled in audiophile realms and this looks an awful lot like some of that. Vinyl, tube amplifiers, balanced interconnects, mono amplification,B&W; electrostatic, etc. A listening room shaped like a rectangle or a listening room with no parallel walls. Do each of things impact the final sound of the music? Absolutely, yet I still call it music. Do they heighten my enjoyment? Each person has to make that judgement. I'm 49 years as a PHOTO retoucher. Thirty of those before moving to digital. I've always specialized in complex imaging. Some for commercial print ads and most for high level professional portrait photographers. Sure, there have always been those who misuse methods but for the most part it's just people trying to make a living or doing something that brings enjoyment to their lives. I don't see the point of drawing a line in the sand over something as non- life threatening as this. My sphere of enjoyment is small and I'm not going down this rabbit hole. Tell or show me how to improve my work but don't tell me it's not a photograph because I removed a blurred bird from my otherwise beautiful sky.
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David Hume on Editing, manipulating, lying, fake – towards an agreement of the meaning of words

Comment posted: 14/11/2025

Peter, good on you for wishing to bring a bit of order to a topic that can easily spiral into a morass. It’s refreshing to see someone try to pin down what we’re talking about before we argue about it.
At the same time, these questions have a very long history, and it might help your argument to recognise and acknowledge how many photographers and thinkers have already wrestled with them. Geoffrey Batchen, Rosalind Krauss, and Roland Barthes, to name only three, all looked closely at the tension between photography’s indexical trace and our desire to treat the photograph as a transparent slice of reality. When a bunch of big hitters have turned their minds to the question, it's good to bring them to the party. Even in the darkroom era the boundaries were never simple: dodging, burning, bleaching, masking, even combination printing were all used to shape a scene into something it never quite was. The idea that a photograph is a neutral transcription has been questioned for over a century.
Where your piece is strongest, I think, is in asking us to keep an eye on the communicative stakes. Viewers rely on certain conventions, and if we break those conventions without signalling it, trust erodes. That’s a fair concern, and one worth returning to. But the line between “editing” and “creating a new scene” has always been porous, and defining it as a simple binary risks flattening the richness of photographic practice—both documentary and artistic.
Rather than drawing the boundary once and for all, the more helpful task might be to stay attentive to context, intention, and audience. The same action—a removed object, a shifted tone—can be an artistic gesture in one setting and a deception in another. Photography has always lived in that tension.
Still, I appreciate your attempt to bring clarity, and I think the conversation becomes more interesting once we place today’s tools within that longer continuum rather than treating them as a break from a previously “pure” medium. Cheers, David
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Peter Schu replied:

Comment posted: 14/11/2025

Thanks for your comment. An artist has all artistic freedom. That is why a pointed out the work of A. Gursky, who calls himself a photo painter. Many ignore this part of my post. I am not trying to tell people what they should or should not do. I am only asking for a honest, clear and descriptive nomenclature. Many of the comments prove that this is indeed a problem. Many people simply don't care and do not see the necessity. I think that this is a probelm, which applies not only to our hobby or profession.

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Bill Brown replied:

Comment posted: 14/11/2025

David, You said it much better than I. What I do as a retoucher is very nuanced and hopefully undetectable. Another respected retoucher said it like this, "Walk on the beach and leave no footprints". Much like a magician doesn't want to reveal his secrets I too want viewers to be immersed in the print and not distracted by me revealing what I've done. Once someone knows how a trick is performed they never look at it the same way again. Calling it something besides a photograph changes the "magic' threshold, at least for me.

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Peter Schu replied:

Comment posted: 14/11/2025

I want to preserve the 'magic' of a photograph, by using a nomenclature, which preserves its meaning. In parallel to the development of new types of photographic images a nomenclature has to be developed which describes these new types unmistakable distinctive. With respect to retouching or editing, I wrote two paragraphs in which I give examples of retouching techniques which preserve or do not destroy the 'magic' of a photograph. It seems that many didn't really noticed these paragraphs and therefore think that I disapprove any retouching process.

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Stefan Wilde on Editing, manipulating, lying, fake – towards an agreement of the meaning of words

Comment posted: 17/11/2025

Peter,
Sorry for being late to the party, I only discovered your post Yesterday night. I have spent the last two weeks disputing and discussing single words in a large contract and by profession I very much sympathize with the concept that words should have a specific meaning.
I sympathize even more with the concept of evoking correct expectations in the viewer of a picture. It would be fantastic to find an accepted term to describe what a viewer is looking at, with (possibly) a representation of the physical scene as it presented itself in a specified moment of time (within the limitations of the medium) as one extreme and (possibly) a picture composed of colors and forms that is totally unrelated to any physical scene as the other extreme.
Finding these terms in a legal framework, or better still, as an accepted part of public discourse might go a long way to help societies being more rational and safer.
So, while I am a supporter of the ideas above, I'd like to offer a challenge to the definition as I understand it which is that a photograph is a representation of a scene that did physically exist.

The challenge is the subjective context of the creator of the picture.

Can an edited picture still be called a photograph if it is a representation of a physically existing scene, if it was edited with any other intent than making the representation truer to the creator's perception of the scene? If the mere thought "... and it also looks better that way" even so much as crossed the mind of the creator can we still call it a photograph?
And what if the photograph depicts a physically existing scene that was itself created to support a falsehood? I witnessed that in my days at school where a specific issue of a fashion and interior design magazine made a big splash among us students. It featured a supposed home story depicting a "Mrs. Xxxx Yyyy", a lady with style".
The lady in question was a student in our school whose real name was completely different from that in the magazine and she certainly didn't live in the home in which the picture was created. Yet, the scene physically existed and the representation of it, though edited to look attractive, was true enough to life that the viewer would have recognized it would she or he have been present.
So, does this not fit the definition of a photograph as suggested?
I believe that in the comments above the term "photographic illustration" was suggested, but this term was meant for a situation where the factual statements that the image supports were meant to be true. So, here it doesn't quite seem to exactly fit the context. Here, the photograph was an illustration of a statement that itself wasn't intended to be factually true, but create the illusion that it was.
I am not saying we should abandon the attempt to find agreed terms, I'm merely challenging the proposal of a specific definition to make progress.
Which in all likelihood will be quite slow, but it's worth it. After all, AI might turn out to be a new Gutenberg moment. It took centuries to come to terms with that one...
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Peter Schu replied:

Comment posted: 17/11/2025

Hi Stefan, thank for your contribution. Making a scene more attractive, or a model, using artifical light sources might be an example of the problem you are thinking about. The photograph shall doucment something and will document a scene, which has been created. So, it shows something which did exist physically. That has nothing to do with the photographic technology. It has only something to do with your intentions. If one adds flowers or a cat or a vase afterwards to the photograph one tries to correct mistakes. Such a process interfers with the intention of the photographic documentation of a scene. The resulting image doesn't represent the original version anymore and is not just a modified version of the original image. If one alters the dynamic range, dampens highlights and lights up shadows, one doesn't destroy the documentary character of the image and it still meets the definition of a photograph. This problem is similiar to the one I described with the cigarette filters. If we aren't precise and strict with our definitions, we will never be able to develop our vocabulary. The technology used to create the final image, should determine the term we use to describe it. It doesn't matter whether the light has been collected with chemicals or electronic sensors. It is only about what is being done with the original version. That original versions of photographs have been altered to deceive people, demonstrates the immense power of photography, which we have to preserve. AI can be used for retouching work, which doesn't destroy the original version of a photograph. Dust and scretches are problems inherent to the technology and when you use AI to remove them, fine. If you use AI to remove power lines, you destroy the original version of the image.

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