Leica iiig, Retropan Soft 320

Leica iiig, Elmar, Summar and Retropan Soft 320 in PMK Pyro

By Geoff Chaplin

Let me begin with my miserable excuses: (1) the weather was sh.., (2) the film was another ‘back of the fridge’ discovery, expired nearly 4 years ago, (3) probably because of poor storage the film was badly fogged, (4) the purpose of the exercise was to check that a newly bought iiig functioned properly not to take great photos, but rather than 36 shots of my left foot I decided to take a walk and just snap away, (5) the film was developed in Bergger PMK Pyro. No development time for this film was given or was available on the massive development chart, so I took a guess – 15m at 21degC.

The film was scanned with a Sony A7Riii, Sigma 105mm macro at f5.6, BlackScaleLabs 35mm system, and images processed in RawTherapee. Looking at the histogram there was a small blip in the middle of the range – that was the image. Fairly drastic manipulation of the contrast curve was necessary, but I am quite happy with the development time and the performance of PMK.

At this point I started thinking – always a dangerous exercise. This is a fast film (I regard PanF as medium speed). In the early years of last century and before, photographers were often using film where the ASA could be counted on one hand. Slow films are high contrast (at least modern emulsions) while fast films have a flatter response curve. So how come old photographs are not just deep blacks and glaring whites, how did they get a full tonal scale? My thoughts turned in the direction soft working developers, and a very common developer in the early days was pyro – a soft working developer. Retropan Soft, low contrast lighting, soft developer – hence very flat negatives.

The images look like low contrast prints from the 1950s and before, grain looking like the image is chiselled in concrete. Does Retropan Soft do what it says on the tin? You bet it does. If that is the look you want then I highly recommend it.

The featured image was taken along one of the main thoroughfares in Brussels, the road is on the right and a glass fronted building on the left, taken with an Elmar 50mm f3.5. This was a rare occasion where I quickly responded to events going on around me – the traffic lights ahead had changed, a phalanx of vehicles was rushing towards me and I could see the reflections in the building. I generally preset aperture and exposure time when the ambient light is consistent, and usually keep the camera focussed on near infinity. Raise camera, point, click.

The images below in Brussels taken in a space of four consitently dull days. Taken with the Summar unless stated otherwise.

Leica iiig, Retropan Soft 320
Take a seat. Any seat.
Leica iiig Retro soft 320
No, that hint of sun is just a teaser
Leica iiig, Retropan Soft 320
Naked bodies …
Leica iiig, Retropan Soft 320
so I’d better go to church
Leica iiig, Retropan Soft 320
Slumbering in the woods
Leica iiig, Retropan Soft 320
The park. It’s busy on a fine day, really.
Leica iiig, Retropan Soft 320
Balconies, taken on the Elmar.

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By Geoff Chaplin
Primarily a user of Leica film cameras and 8x10 for the past 30 years, recently a mix of film and digital. Interests are concept and series based art work. Professionally trained in astronomical photography, a scientist and mathematician.
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jason gold on Leica iiig, Elmar, Summar and Retropan Soft 320 in PMK Pyro

Comment posted: 13/03/2025

Sorry! A waste of time! Using unknown out dated crap! A worn old lens.. why? Really ?
I was a top Pro. I used film evey second. That's all there was. My film was fresh.
I serviced major companies.. I did my own personal work.
Use New film if you must! Personally I was retiring as Digital arrived!
I love it!
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Geoff Chaplin replied:

Comment posted: 13/03/2025

Ha, ha! I've got 4 more films left. Lens near mint by the way.

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Hamish Gill replied:

Comment posted: 13/03/2025

This comment was a waste of time on this website, Jason, not only is this a website that welcomes and encourages photographers who choose to partake in photographic processes that sit outside of the mainstream, but it's also a website that discourages this sorts of comment. Comment like it again, and it will just be disapproved/moved to spam. Incidentally, being a "top pro" who used "fresh film" and serviced "major companies" makes you no more qualified to comment of Geoff's choices here than anyone else - it just means you shot film for money once, which is totally irrelevant here!

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jason gold replied:

Comment posted: 13/03/2025

Maybe I was harsh. I had to please editors of major companies and corporations.. So was paid! So was Michaelangelo and Da Vinci.It's lovely to play with old film.Sure. But I go out to do my thing, I want success. The return to film a miracle. Guess I still shoot film. Why? I love seeing it hanging to dry and scan. I guess I LIKE HIS WORK!

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RichardH on Leica iiig, Elmar, Summar and Retropan Soft 320 in PMK Pyro

Comment posted: 13/03/2025

Thanks for posting this, Geoff. I have been curious about the FOMA Retropan Soft film. The images you posted without automobiles and other modern items have a nostalgic quality for me. The photo of the park shows me how I could make use of that FOMA Retropan Soft. Overall, I am confident that the film stock and it's age account for 99% of the low contrast results, although some flare from the Summar may add to the effect.
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Geoff Chaplin replied:

Comment posted: 13/03/2025

Thanks Richard. I have more film so I intend to shoot in better light when the weather allows, and we'll see how much is down to film age and lighting. At f8 I know the Summar with the light behind can perform every bit as well as a modern lens (another article to appear).

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Gary Smith on Leica iiig, Elmar, Summar and Retropan Soft 320 in PMK Pyro

Comment posted: 13/03/2025

Thanks! A wonderful four minutes of my time! I love that you and I still use old, out dated Leicas! Really!

I was never anything other than a rank amateur (at everything). 50 years ago when I started shooting film it was always fresh - that's all there was.

Personally, I'm just starting to shoot sheet film.

I love all of your posts!
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Geoff Chaplin replied:

Comment posted: 13/03/2025

Thanks Gary. In many ways the iiig and Elmar are my favourite camera although the M3 allows modern lenses to be used which makes it technically superior for low light work. Good luck with 4x5, I'm looking forward to seeing your results, and no doubt trials and tribulations on the way.

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Gary Smith replied:

Comment posted: 13/03/2025

I may keep the trials and tribulations to myself.

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Geoff Chaplin replied:

Comment posted: 13/03/2025

You tell me yours and I'll tell you mine! Maybe a joint post?

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Arthur Gottschalk on Leica iiig, Elmar, Summar and Retropan Soft 320 in PMK Pyro

Comment posted: 13/03/2025

Love the Summar! I should use mine more often.
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Geoff Chaplin replied:

Comment posted: 13/03/2025

It's a great lens at f8 plus ultra compact.

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Jeffery Luhn on Leica iiig, Elmar, Summar and Retropan Soft 320 in PMK Pyro

Comment posted: 14/03/2025

Geoff,

I'm assuming the dramatic grain is from fogging or perhaps over exposure? More likely long development. Out of date film is a crap shoot, for sure. All of the 35mm film I shoot is past date because it was left over from the time of covid when the school was shut down for two years. I've gotten my worst fogging from film that was in a warm location. Not your issue because you had yours in a fridge, but some emulsions are more likely than others to go south with time. Fortunately, the bulk of our film was in a low and cool cabinet. The worst films were the packs that were left on a high shelf. Ugh. Had to dispose of those rolls and also the paper.
I've also noticed that extended processing times considerably raises base fog. I cannot process the out of date film with stand development and expect to get good negatives. I've had my best results from old film with HC-110 dilution B. I try to keep my developing time below 7 minutes. My results from Rodinal 1:100 were awful with past date films.
Pyro CMK has been giving me fine grain results with HP5 and FP4 at slightly reduced box speed. 320 and 100 respectively. I've found that Pyro CMK delivers long scale and somewhat flat negatives, so I only use it for scenes of high contrast. It does have long development times, so a flat scene and extended times are going to deliver fog and grain. Where your negatives particularly stained on areas outside of the frames?
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Geoff Chaplin replied:

Comment posted: 14/03/2025

Thanks again Jeffery. I think the grain was just down to old film and fogging - exposure was correct to within a stop over. Pyro stain out of the frame existed in this case because of the fogging in the unexposed areas. Yes, I agree with you (and Jason) - if the images are going to be important then best to use fresh film and processes you trust. Old stock (unless well stored and slow to medium speed) is just for fun and experimenting.

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