Learning Journeys

My First Two Rolls of Film – HP5+ in a Trip 35 – By Stevenson Gawen

June 15, 2022

In many years of amateur (at best) photography, I’ve almost entirely used digital since I started with a compact in 2005 or 2006. But recently I’ve been increasingly keen to try going ‘analogue’. Largely as a result of reading 35mmc, I might add!

I already had a nice Olympus Trip 35. It was a present to me from my parents, a year or two, I think, before I went digital. Back then, the cost of film and development, as well as not really understanding how it worked – at the time I would have been 11 or 12 – meant I didn’t do much with it. It sat in a cupboard for the next 15 years (give or take a few) while I progressed through digital compacts, bridge cameras, and finally to mirrorless where I’ve been for the last decade or so. It doesn’t really seem that long.

Anyway, having decided to try my hand at film I lost no time in ordering some supplies. Not much really, a few rolls of film, a tank, a thermometer and a packet of monobath developer/fixer. Also with this project in mind I acquired a set of classic bellows (the sort used for macro photography) with a slide copier attachment, for digitizing my negatives. I’d never have thought of this option without this great article on 35mmc by Christof Bircher. I can use it for macro too!

At this point I’ve shot, developed and ‘scanned’ 2 rolls of HP5+. I settled on HP5+ after quite a bit of research as a really good all round option. Latitude for mistakes, good quality, and reasonably priced. One of the cheapest options available in Australia at present actually.

Farm buildings Shot with the Trip 35, developed in Cinestill DF96 monobath in a Paterson tank, and scanned using a Sony A7s in conjunction with a classic Pentax bellows, 50mm f1.7 and slide copier.

To backtrack a little, I researched the light seals in the Olympus Trip 35 and found that it should have three bits of seal material. They were still sort of there, but didn’t look good. I won’t go into details here, but for the time being I’ve improvised new seals with some black foam that originally came as packaging with a computer component. Seems fine…

Dog and kitten – they get on very well! These possible light leaks were caused (I think)  when I was trying to extract the leader from that first roll.

When the film arrived, I loaded a roll into the Trip 35 (not without some trepidation) and started shooting. I didn’t want to take anything too valuable on the first roll as it would be my first time developing, and I wasn’t too confident that it would all go smoothly. So, I snapped away, trying to make nice images but not worrying too much. Most of the images are around a small farm in my area. I used up most of the frames here.

Once I was through the roll I tried to rewind the film leaving the header out, but failed. I wanted to be able to start the film onto the Paterson reel in the light, so looked up Youtube on how to retrieve the leader. Long story short, there’s a few ways, but I managed with a bit of thin plastic cut from a bottle and some tacky adhesive. Not ideal. But it worked.

Next I mixed up my 1L batch of Df96 with distilled water (I bought it as powder) and stored it in a convenient plastic bottle.

In the evening I took the film, the developing tank and a pair of scissors into my bedroom and closed the door and the curtains. 5 minutes later my film was safely in the tank! At this point I reluctantly decided to call it a day, as I was tired and was afraid of messing up the processing stage.

Next morning was cold. Where I live is at around 700m above sea level, close to the Snowy Mountains. We get down to -12℃ or so in winter, and on this morning in May it was -3℃ or so outside. In the room with a sink where I would be developing, the temperature was only 12℃. I was a bit concerned… but I reasoned that a water bath at the right temp would keep things ‘cooking’ nicely.

All went well, following the instructions for intermittent agitation at 26℃. I accidentally let it sit a little longer than the recommended 1 minute at one point, but hoped it wouldn’t be a disaster. I like the fact that the Df96 can be reused quite a few times – less stuff to dispose of! I stored the water from the first two rinses for later disposal as the sink drains into a grey water system. I finished off with a rinse under the tap, then took it through to a warmer part of the house to dry. While impatiently waiting for it to dry I examined the film with a magnifying glass. It looked good, as far as I could tell.

An old Applebox tree – Eucalyptus bridgesiana

An hour or two later, after breakfast, the film seemed dry, so I set up the bellows and slide copier on the kitchen table, using a manual flash for illumination.

I took the images as raw files, then processed them using the negadoctor module in darktable, which seems to work well. darktable (yes, it’s supposed to be written in all lower case) is my current Raw processor and organizer – it’s not as user friendly as the commercial options like LR, but I rather like it. Plus I like the fact that it’s open source.
So, did it all work?

Well, the images seem good! Technically at least… The grain looks nice – present but not excessive and the tonality and contrast seems fine, although I found that it was very ‘adjustable’ in darktable, to the point where I’m not really sure how HP5 is supposed to look, to be honest. The Pentax SMC M 50mm f1.7 I used with the bellows is one of my favorites in normal use, but it isn’t a macro lens and there is some vignetting, barrel distortion and sharpness falloff. Obviously, I suppose (but I didn’t think of it till I saw it) on the final result the vignetted corners come out lighter as a result of the inversion. Still, overall, I think the results are OK. If I keep doing this kind of thing a better lens may be on the cards in the future.

The rear of the Cooma Twin Cinema

Old buildings in Cooma

A landscaping materials supplier’s yard

And actually, I’m very pleased with the photos – different to my digital work and the shooting experience is quite different too. More please!

The second roll didn’t go quite so smoothly. The film jammed in the camera on the third or forth frame, and mysteriously fixed itself when I rewound and opened the back. I think I did something wrong in slotting the leader into the take-up spool. On the other hand, I was successful in leaving the leader out when rewinding. But, when I was loading the developing tank I got distracted and started pulling the film out from the canister with the light on… AARGH! Fortunately, I realized what I was doing after only loosing what turned out to be about eight frames…

Next, after developing, I was impatient to examine the photos and grabbed the length of film as soon as it looked dry. I didn’t realize that the emulsion was still sticky… so some frames have got all manner of fluff stuck them, from when I sat down to look at the film. The photos in this article are from both rolls. I apologize for the dust on the scans. Some worse than others…

View out the rear window of a friend’s hatchback on an evening drive home – not a great image, but a great example of dirt on the film!

A (possibly photogenic) weed – plus a camera strap.

Young pullets

Dogs playing

Dogs + river

In summary, I’m enjoying the experience a lot. Thinking a bit more about the differences to what I’m used to, I think something that stands out is somehow the ‘finality’ of making an image on film. Compose, adjust focus and exposure, then CLICK. And that’s it! Nothing else to worry about. I’m not really sure how this is different to digital. After all, I don’t have to look at the screen on a digital camera if I don’t want to… and after all, (again) I am digitizing my negatives – there’s a quite a bit of latitude in terms of exposure and contrast in post-processing. Yet the experience is different. In a good way. After re-reading this last paragraph it occurs to me that I seem to have read similar sentiments before, on 35mmc – I wasn’t intending to copy anyone… honest!

I’d like to do a project or two specifically using film – I don’t have any real plans though at this point. I’m also now temped to buy a film SLR… but on the other hand the simplicity of the Trip 35 is very appealing, and I think its limitations could have a good effect in encouraging me to use a consistent style. Dunno yet…

If you got this far, thanks for reading. I don’t have much confidence in my writing skills – so I hope this article has been readable!

Steven

You can see more of my images on my rather haphazard (and irregularly updated) Flickr page.

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27 Comments

  • Reply
    Terry B
    June 15, 2022 at 11:18 am

    It seems that you’ved got your repro set up working nicely. But before you spend money on a macro lens which will give better overall frame coverage, have you considered reversing your Pentax lens? For the cost of a simple reversing ring this is an old trick that should give you better coverage. You will have to use manual stop down but given the leisurely nature of using a bellows set up this shouldn’t be a problem.

    • Reply
      Steven G
      June 15, 2022 at 11:31 am

      Hi Terry, that’s a great idea – actually, this bellows set has provision for reversing the lens already. I’ve tried some ultra-macro photos (very interesting to do) in that configuration, but hadn’t considered reversing it for the digitizing. Probably because I carefully followed the original instruction manual on setting it up for copying slides, which didn’t seem to suggest doing this. I’ll try it with the roll of FP4+ shot at ISO50 that’s due for digitizing…
      Thanks for the suggestion!

  • Reply
    Billy Sanford
    June 15, 2022 at 4:58 pm

    Lovely, thank you for sharing your experience!

    • Reply
      Steven G
      June 15, 2022 at 10:59 pm

      Thanks Billy 🙂

    • Reply
      Steven G
      June 15, 2022 at 11:03 pm

      Thanks Billy 🙂

  • Reply
    Don Goodman-Wilson
    June 15, 2022 at 8:22 pm

    Welcome to the magical world of developing your own film! Warning: it’s addictive, because so rewarding.

    Also: I love the shot of the dogs playing, very dynamic composition!

    • Reply
      Steven G
      June 15, 2022 at 11:03 pm

      Thanks Don, and yes, I like that shot of the dogs too. I hoped it would be good when I took it… but I wasn’t sure!

  • Reply
    Steven G
    June 15, 2022 at 11:07 pm

    I wonder, has anyone noticed what I think is slight bromide drag on some of the frames? It was more noticeable with more contrast but it’s still just visible on some frames. I intend to try more agitation next time, with a higher temperature to compensate, as per the DF96 instructions.

  • Reply
    Dan
    June 15, 2022 at 11:50 pm

    Very nice set and a wonderful journey you have begun!

    • Reply
      Steven G
      June 16, 2022 at 12:59 am

      Thanks!

  • Reply
    Gary
    June 16, 2022 at 8:00 am

    I enjoyed the article and the photos. What do you think caused the scratches on the image of the weed? I ask because I’ve had the same problem on three rolls of Lomography film that were developed by a lab. Obviously you can’t blame a lab, having developed the film yourself. Cheers.

    • Reply
      Steven G
      June 16, 2022 at 12:19 pm

      Hi Gary, very glad you enjoyed it. I didn’t remember any scratches on that photo so I had another look – I think you might be looking at a fine, sunlit, grass stalk? I have had a few small scrapes on the second roll when I tried to flick some dust off the emulsion-side… I won’t try that again 🙄

      • Reply
        Gary
        June 17, 2022 at 7:00 pm

        Yes, you are correct. I might just be oversensitive to scratches these days.

        • Reply
          Steven G
          June 17, 2022 at 11:25 pm

          I dunno – to start with I thought the dust and small scratches on some frames looked almost cool… but I’m rapidly coming to find them annoying😐

  • Reply
    Wouter Willemse
    June 16, 2022 at 2:43 pm

    Of to a good start, I’d say!
    Usually, images developed with monobath solutions don’t blow me away, but you definitely got some really nice results out of it!

    • Reply
      Steven G
      June 16, 2022 at 10:31 pm

      Thanks Wouter! I chose the monobath purely for ease of use (as do most people?) but so far I’m quite pleased. I think I’ll try a traditional developer sometime though, to see what the difference is like.

  • Reply
    Khürt Williams
    June 16, 2022 at 5:24 pm

    > Thinking a bit more about the differences to what I’m used to, I think something that stands out is somehow the ‘finality’ of making an image on film. Compose, adjust focus and exposure, then CLICK. And that’s it! Nothing else to worry about.

    There’s more (dodging and burning, etc. ) depending on how much you want to do. You can also adjust the white balance, etc. in whatever software you want if that helps achieve the results you want.

    • Reply
      Steven G
      June 16, 2022 at 10:29 pm

      Thanks for the thoughts! Yes, I do understand that one can do a lot more after taking the shot. Even all the photos here have been adjusted to taste in terms of exposure and contrast. I think, in hindsight, my comment about ‘finality’ was more related to the moment of actually taking the photo – with digital, if I saw a worthwhile shot I’d check on the screen and probably take a few more to be on the safe side. Not with film -usually anyway…

  • Reply
    RoboJ1M
    June 17, 2022 at 2:29 am

    That was my first camera, given to me by my nan when she moved to a powered APS point and shoot.
    I’d forgotten all about it.
    I too was about 10 and shot a few rolls of a family holiday in Spain.
    Up in my parents loft at this point I suspect.

    Don’t jump to SLR too quickly, that 40mm on the Trip 35 is a beautiful lens, with its funny solar powered light meter.

    There’s a lot to be said for fixed prime rangefinders, I’m thinking about finding something with a few more controls but still a fixed prime.

    • Reply
      Steven G
      June 17, 2022 at 12:20 pm

      Hi Robo,
      It’s a great little camera – get yours out!

  • Reply
    Jay Dann Walker in Melbourne, Australia
    June 17, 2022 at 9:56 am

    There is so much to be said (and praised) for the one camera, one lens, one roll of film, one self-assignment, one processing.

    In fact, we should all consider doing it at some time or another. To take us back to a time when photography was like that, not so much about gear, but about making pictures (or as Kodak so widely publicised it for many decades in its best-known how to book, ‘How To Take Good Pictures’).

    The trip 35 is a fine camera to do this. I no longer have one, but my (definitely upmarket) choice when I feel like doing this is a Contax G1 with either the legendary Zeiss Planar 45/2.0, the just-as-good Planar 35/2.0, or the Biogon 28/2.8, depending on the subject matter I’ve decided to do that day (in lens/assignment order, street/candids, slightly surreal landscapes, or architecture).

    I then go out and do it. Shoot the entire roll. Try to keep my brain focussed (bad pun, yes, I know) on the subject I’ve chosen for the day, and just – shoot. Using film makes me think more about what I’m seeing as well as photographing, but sometimes I find I slip into a mental state which I can only describe as “free-floating” where my seemingly unoccupied brain leads me into new areas I’ve not consciously worked out.

    Afterwards, when I view the results I often find elements in my images that my conscious didn’t pick up at the time, but something else in my head did. Which sort of opens up all sorts of new mental dimensions for me. There is something quite surreal about all this – I can’t really figure it out, but it’s there. Other than saying this, I can’t really explain it, not easily anyway. But it works for me. And it may work for you, if you try it.

    I process the film conventionally, using mostly Kodak D76 but on occasion an old MQ developer I home-brew. As I usually scan these negatives, I process slightly less than the recommended time, as I find my Plustek gives better mid-tones and beautiful, deep, dark shadows which I particularly like in my outdoor images.

    Nice images you included with the article, Stephen. The cat and dog shot, the chooks, the playing dogs, are gorgeous. As for dust and grit on your negatives, try rewashing them for say 20-30 minutes and give them a final rinse in filtered or demineralised water (you can find the latter in the laundry section of your local supermarket – for me, distilled water is too expensive in Australia for this) to which you have added a scant few drops of good dish detergent. You may find the grit washes off. Or you may find it doesn’t wash off. This happens. It’s something to be lived with. Photoshop or Lightroom will become a good friend. Personally, I despise dust-spotting like the plague, but you know, YMMD.

    That’s it from me. Load up that Trip and go out shooting again. I’ve not been to Cooma since 2004, but it’s a grand place to be out and about with a film camera.

    From Dann in Melbourne

    • Reply
      Steven G
      June 17, 2022 at 12:32 pm

      Hi Dann,
      I found your comment after a long day, feeling tired. You’ve made my day! I especially like your first paragraph about one camera. It’s somehow liberating – at least that’s the best word I can find at the moment. I’m fairly happy with the Df96 for now but when it’s exhausted I may try a traditional dev and fixer. Nice to know you’ve been to Cooma, too. Finally, thanks for the suggestion to rewash the negatives – I wondered if I could do that, but was afraid it might not be a good idea. My latest roll I’ve shot is a Kentmere 100, and it seems to have suffered worse – nasty water spots on a few frames. Anyway, thanks very much for your comment. I feel I’m not doing it justice in this reply, but much appreciated!

    • Reply
      Steven G
      June 18, 2022 at 8:51 am

      Thanks Dann! Your comment cheered me up when I discovered it last night. I wrote a reply there and then, which oddly seems to have disappeared… I’m not quite sure what I said in it now. But thanks for the tip about rewashing the negatives – since writing the articles I’ve shot a roll of Kentmere 100 which seems to somehow show watermarks a lot worse. So I’ll try that. Very glad you like the photos too, and interesting thoughts about ‘one camera… one..’ I think I find it somehow relaxing, less to worry about because there’s no options, no possiblity of instant checking etc. Anyway, thanks for the thoughts! Great to hear from a fellow aussie too.

  • Reply
    sonny rosenberg
    June 17, 2022 at 3:38 pm

    Great article, it was a fun read and nice photos as well!

    • Reply
      Steven G
      June 17, 2022 at 11:23 pm

      Glad you enjoyed it!

    • Reply
      Steven G
      June 18, 2022 at 9:18 am

      Hi Sonny, thanks for the feedback, very glad you enjoyed it!

    • Reply
      Steven G
      June 19, 2022 at 10:02 am

      Thanks Sonny! Glad you liked it. By the way, for anyone who’s comment I haven’t replied to, I’m having a bit of difficulty with replying to people. A few times my comments seem to have disappeared without ever being published, so apologies to anyone I’ve missed – I’m new to WordPress… might need to ask Hamish – must be doing something wrong!

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