Fujifilm S5 Pro and What does “Film-Like” Even Mean?

By David Hume

Most film shooters would know that over the past few years there’s been chatter about certain older camera sensors, in particular CCD sensors, that are widely reported to have “film-like” qualities. Partly out of FOMO, partly out of due diligence and partly because I can’t help myself, for the past couple of years I’ve gone down a film/digital rabbit hole trying to work out if there’s anything I need to learn from these sensors and yes, I’ve learned a fair bit and I’ve moved on. At least I think I have… for the moment, anyway.

So What do I Mean by “Film-Like”? The Short Answer:

The Short Answer for me would be this: A digital camera could be described as “film-like” if it produces out-of-camera jpegs that look like Minilab colour scans of 35mm film. OK – hold your horses a sec. I know this statement has holes all through it, but it’s a start. We’ll go through that in the Long Answer section.

George – Fuji S5Pro SOOC jpeg Aperture Priority, no in-camera exposure compensation
George – Kodak ProImage 100 Fuji SP3000 scan These obviously look very different – but they are untouched. Adjusted for exposure they get pretty close…
This is the ProImage scan again once I’d dropped the exposure by a stop.

There are lots of clickbait YouTubers saying things like “Most Film-Like Camera Ever!” about all sorts of cameras. And this, essentially, is crap. But I’m as gullible as anyone… “What if it’s true? What if I could buy a $100 DigiCam that would give me results indistinguishable from Portra 400 in a Contax T3?” So I watch the videos, decide they’re crap, and move on. Until the next one… and the one after that.

But finally, I think I’ve  made my peace with the whole notion of this, and to say whether a digital camera is successfully “film-like”, first we need to know what we mean. So I’m using the S5 Pro as an example here because it’s very clear in its intent and it’s pretty easy to judge how successful it was in delivering on that intent.

Fuji S5Pro SOOC jpeg
ProImage 100 and SP-3000 scan. Shop Exposure dropped by 3/4 stop

So here’s a slightly less short answer: I’d call the Fujifilm S5 Pro “film-like” because it attempted (and succeeded) to produce out-of-camera jpegs that looked like scans of 35mm Fujifilm colour negative film. It did this better than its competition at the time, and in a way that today still allows shooters to get jpegs that look like film scans.

Now Here’s the Long Answer:

So to back up for the deeper dive, I’ve been struggling with the film-like thing for the past few years; that is, ever since I started shooting film again in 2017. I grew up with film, shot it for commercial work and then gave it up completely when digital cameras became a viable solution for the sort of things I did.

When I started seriously getting into photography as a major part of my fine-art practice in 2020 I went back to film almost exclusively, and because I’d grown up on film I wanted to get similar looks and feels across both my film and digital shots.

Being like I am, I also started researching things on the net, watching YouTubes etc, and I’d get annoyed by bold pronouncements like “The [whatever camera you care to name] is the most film-like camera ever!” Or “The Leica M8 is just like shooting a continuous roll of Kodachrome!” (particularly when the person making such a claim had not shot a single frame of Kodachrome ever in their life)

So I got grumpier and grumpier, and tried more and more sensors and got essentially nowhere.

If you look at many of the pieces I’ve written here there’s a recurring theme of film and digital, and using them side by side. They’re a bit preachy perhaps, but I generally stand by them and they all helped me along the way.

Finally I went as far as shooting the same test scene with seven “classic” sensors (ones that people often refer to as “film-like”) that I just happened to own:

  • Fuji Super CCD,
  • Kodak CCD,
  • Nikon D3/D700,
  • Nikon D4/Df
  • Fuji X-Trans 1, 2 and 3.

I made a YouTube video of this, and you can watch it if you like – it’s not indexed but it’s not private either. Be warned – it’s not good; it’s a rambling half hour of your life that you’ll never get back, but if all that doesn’t put you off, dig in. Here’s the Video (comes with boringness warning, but it does talk about and compares all seven cameras.)

Six cameras from the video. I was shooting it on the. X-Pro3.

And here’s something that might be interesting if you really care… I put an out-of-camera JPEG of every film simulation of each of these cameras into a Google folder and if you like you can download and have a look. Link to Google Drive . There’s a folder for each camera and the JPEG types are visible as comments/description in the image. (so you’ll need something to read the EXIF.) You may want to play with the exposures, because I set that manually with the cameras on the same ISO setting. In this way we can see which sensors are more or less sensitive than their nominated. ISO would indicate. I thought this would be more useful than having all the exposures balanced initially. Oh, and it’s worth mentioning that they are all shot through the same lens because I could adapt that to each camera. It’s the Nikon 35mm to 70mm f2 .8 AFD. All that information is in the video, anyway.

All the JPEG options from the seven sensors – Download from the Google Drive Link above -There’s a folder for each camera and the JPEG types are visible as comments/description in the image., so you’ll need something that can read the EXIF. And there’s an SP-3000 scan of Portra 160 in there too.

So for example if you want to see if the X-Trans 1 one really has nicer JPEGs  than the X-Trans 2, or if you want to use the Kodak CCD images from the Olympus E-300 to make your own preset then jump in and fill your boots! Of course all the cameras have many other settings apart from simply the different simulations, but generally I’ve just left everything else on their defauts.

And finally – FINALLY – I got to a point where I feel I can say something useful, and maybe put this all to rest in my own mind.

And yes, I would describe the Fuji S5 Pro with its Super CCD sensor as “film-like”. Please note that I’m not saying the others are not, or that you can’t get an even more “film like” experience from the other cameras. In fact – for shooting a wedding I’d choose the D4 or D3 sensor over the Fuji Super CCD in a heartbeat and really I see no reason now to shoot the S5 Pro ever again – so indeed I sold it – but I’m picking the S5 Pro as my example here because it’s the clearest and easiest example to use to explain what I mean.

So How Does This Work?

Before we zoom back to 2006 we need a quick look at where we are today. Today things would go like this: I’d be shooting raw, throwing on a Lightroom preset that I had developed myself to my own taste, and then printing digitally if at all. If I was really keen, I might get a Calibrite checker and take a shot of that under the lighting conditions of the shoot… And then calibrate my files according to that before proceeding. I won’t go into that here, but it’s pretty snazzy… You can get Calibrite to make its own little preset for you to correct for your camera and the lighting conditions so that, for example, that green dress you are shooting for the catalogue comes out the right colour in the files and you don’t get into trouble with your Etsy shop. Anyway, Google that if you feel like it.

Nikon Df – as shot, Raw, Standard Profile, Daylight WB
Slightly cropped, My Custom Preset

In fact here is a shot from a wedding I shot recently on my Df (D4 sensor). There is no way I’d shoot the S5 Pro over these. I shot daylight white balance, ISO 800 or lower, standard profile RAW, and used a preset I made myself. I guess you could say my preset is a bit filmlike, but really it’s just made to my taste. My taste is based somewhat on a film aesthetic and you could say it’s a bit Fuji 400H but really it’s just like this because I like it.

OK; that’s today. Now, let’s go back to 2006 when the Fuji S5 Pro was released. Computers were slow. Storage was expensive – raw processing was less common. For something like a wedding, you’d want jpegs out of camera that would PRINT NICELY. Remember – the first iPhone was announced in 2007. Prints… Still… Mattered.

But more than that; WET prints still mattered. C Types mattered – prints where colour paper was exposed to light and run through chemicals. I’m still occasionally having C Types made today, but I don’t expect this to last.

Both Fuji and Kodak had been using a hybrid digital/wet process since the 1970s/1980s. LEDs for Kodak, Lasers for Fuji but both involved scanning film and then exposing the paper with light created from a digital file and running through chemicals. Remember Minilabs and One Hour Photos in the shopping centres?

Film was being scanned to make digital files that were then used for wet prints. And these scanners were big and they were expensive.

Then, as we know, digital sensors started to become available to go in cameras.

  • 1999: Nikon D1 2.7MP APSC and $US 5000.
  • 2002: Nikon D100 6MP APSC and $US 2000
  • 2005: Nikon D200 10MP APSC and $US 1700
  • 2006 Fuji S5Pro 12MP (well, 6MP really) APSC $US 1900. Note – the S5Pro is a Nikon D200 body with a Fuji sensor inside

Now – here’s a quote from the intro of the DPReview review of the S5Pro from July 2007

“The amazing dynamic range and superb skin tones alone are enough reason for wedding and portrait photographers to consider it seriously. But it’s not only about dynamic range; Fujifilm really can do colour well (guess all those decades making Fujichrome help there), high ISO performance is better than the D200 (though don’t expect miracles) and the out of camera jpegs are probably the best you’ll see from any digital SLR at this level.”

OK – So how did Fuji do this?

Firstly, it held detail in the highlights and didn’t clip to white as abruptly as other cameras. This was a big deal in 2006.


The S5 Pro was equipped with Fuji’s Super CCD SR II sensor, which used a dual-pixel architecture. The sensor consisted of two types of photodiodes—larger, more sensitive S-pixels and smaller, less sensitive R-pixels. This design allowed the camera to capture a broader dynamic range than most of its competitors, making it especially adept at preserving detail in both the highlights and shadows of an image.

Secondly, Fuji had the smarts and experience to finesse the jpegs that came out of the sensor so they looked like scans of its successful film stocks (like 400H) that had nice skin tones and soft gradations—qualities that were obviously valued by portrait and wedding photographers. In the film simulations were set to anything other than standard, auto dynamic range kicks in and the camera decides whether and how much to use the extra R pixels. You can set dynamic range manually in Standard setting but the intention seems to be pretty squarely that you let Fuji work this out for you. Of course you also get other options like setting tone and colour saturation –  that kind of thing, but the intention, again, seems to be that you work this out, set it  and live with your JPEGs pretty much.

The sims – if you’re interested in these you’ll probably want to download the actual files and play with the exposure to get more meaning out of it all. This gives you a bit of an indication though. Note that the exposure is a bit dim because I use the same settings as I did on the Df, which perhaps it’s a bit less optimistic about its ISO than the Fuji.

And, to state this yet again, the in-camera options gave photographers the flexibility to choose a “look” straight out of the camera, reducing the need for post-processing and allowing the camera to deliver ready-to-print jpegs directly suited for C-type printers of the time.

OK – I think that rests my case. I’m saying it’s film-like because it spits out jpegs that looks like scans of Fuji colour film stocks of the day.

And do I still care?

Well, not really. I did care a lot, obviously. I guess I had to go through all this crap to see if I was drinking the Internet Kool-Aid about CCD sensors and the “film-like” thing. You may remember that at the start I said I didn’t think I’d ever shoot the Fuji S5 Pro again. And here’s why. The D700 (for example) is a nicer camera in every respect. I like the sensor, and more I like the fact that the sensor is full frame and it plays with the lenses better than the Fuji’s crop sensor. I also like the X-Pro 3 better. Same story; the colours out of XP3 are better for me and the XP3 has ergonomics that allow me to do things that I could never do with the S5 Pro. I’ve tried the Olympus E-300 with its mythic Kodak CCD sensor and maybe I’ll write something about that but yes using that sensor, while it was nice, just reinforced that now I’ve experienced that sensor I can replicate it with my more modern cameras and not worry that I’m missing out. I’ve lost the FOMO if you like.

Nice colours, nice skin tones, yes? Daylight balance. F1b I think. The blues are a bit much perhaps?
But I did a simulation bracket too – this was F2 the “vivid” setting which was supposed to be like Velvia but I think it’s a bit full-on even for that.

In a sentence – now that I’ve had the experience of this S5 sensor and its colours I can make any colour it can give me with a more modern sensor, and just pick the camera that’s got the ergonomics, lens choices and image quality that suits the work I’m doing.

And this is pretty much how I feel about any claim of a “Classic” look now that I’ve been through this process. As an aside I have to say it was a bit of an eye-opener seeing how easy it was to get really nice colours out of that Olympus E-300 with the Kodak CCD sensor but the downside is that it seems to get hot pixels when you shoot exposures longer than a couple of seconds and so the ease of the colour is diminished by the fact that you need to spend time cleaning crap off the file.

Let’s not forget either, that film was designed primarily to do a job rather than to have an aesthetic. I guess the aesthetic is a result of the manufacturers trying to reduce as much as they could the technical shortcomings and inaccuracies of colour film. So what we now get misty-eyed over is really just iterative pragmatic decisions made with the best available technology as the films were being developed.

Anyway there may well be more follow-up – I’m sure I’m not done with sensors, and looks, and all that kind of stuff, but at the moment I think this is a wrap. Thanks for reading!

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By David Hume
David Hume is an Australian visual artist and photographer, best known for work depicting the Australian landscape. He also worked as a commercial editorial photographer for over 25 years, and has held a number of photographic exhibitions. He currently exhibits both painting and photography.
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Geoff Chaplin on Fujifilm S5 Pro and What does “Film-Like” Even Mean?

Comment posted: 14/04/2025

Interesting article, and your conclusion is telling and important. I murder my b&w film negatives to get the look I want. Some other person's or camera's standards are irrelevant - it's what I want that counts.
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Comment posted: 14/04/2025

Cheers Geoff!

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moodywarlock on Fujifilm S5 Pro and What does “Film-Like” Even Mean?

Comment posted: 14/04/2025

I've looked at this too. Never used the Fuji as it's still stupidly expensive. But I do use the Olympus E1 and the D200. Both make excellent photos. Not film-like, but not flat either. I suspect the camera software was tuned to produce punchier photos and less dynamic range creates a punchy look. They do produce different photos to modern cameras, yes. Certainly attractive photos. The closest to film I have found in digital is the Foveon sensor from Sigma, but that is a different beast.
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David Hume replied:

Comment posted: 14/04/2025

Thanks for your thoughts MoodyWarlock. Yeah I’ve looked a little at Foveons, but never done the deep dive. I wonder what else will come in the comments. It will be interesting to see. Cheers.

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Bill Brown on Fujifilm S5 Pro and What does “Film-Like” Even Mean?

Comment posted: 14/04/2025

I collaborate with a photograher that in 2006 moved to the Phase One P-30 digital back attached to his Hasselblad. He now shoots with the Fuji GFX 100II. When a client orders from those early digital shoots and I process out one of those files in Capture One it still more than holds it's own against the Fuji. The problem was it was really SLOW during a photo session and would freeze up. Those are beautiful files that I would say have a film like quality but really high resolution. That P-30 was something like $18,000-20,000 in 2006 so not really apples to apples comparison.
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David Hume replied:

Comment posted: 14/04/2025

Cheers Bill. I'm appreciating all this input!

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Michael Keppler on Fujifilm S5 Pro and What does “Film-Like” Even Mean?

Comment posted: 14/04/2025

Very interesting article. I often find the discussion about ‘film-like’ digital cameras a bit strange. What kind of film should the camera be compared to? Slide film, projected onto a high-quality slide screen? 35mm film, printed on glossy photo paper, made in a large laboratory or a hand print of a 6x9 image? OK, digital images are compared here with scans of colour film images. Which scanner? Which software? Ideally slide film, in any case a consistent, professional colour management must be guaranteed, otherwise you are comparing apples with pears.
Apart from the specific properties of a particular film, analogue photography is not a look, but a process. Every single step of this process - from the choice of camera and lens to the choice of film and developer to the preparation of the print in the lab and again the choice of photographic paper, format, type of presentation - every single decision changes the result. Digitized, one and the same negative - at least without the corresponding effort - can deliver completely different results depending on the technology used; different scanners deliver different digital images.
However, you very aptly describe an essential characteristic of ‘film-like’ digital cameras: the dynamic range! This is probably what is valued as exposure latitude with film. Fuji succeeded, as you write, in not clipping the highlights as abruptly as other cameras, and the camera also delivered beautiful skin tones and very fine gradations of colour and brightness. I think it's these qualities of film that some digital cameras still can't match.
After shooting almost exclusively on film for the last two years, I recently managed to take a digital shot that gave me the impression of a film-like look. The secret: I had taken the picture with a digital Hasselblad which, thanks to its wide dynamic range, captured all the details perfectly in both highlights and shadows and which, thanks to its 16-bit colour depth, reproduces incredibly fine colour gradations. This is complemented by absolutely natural colour reproduction. Perhaps it is these particularly fine gradations in brightness and colour that remind us of analogue images.
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David Hume replied:

Comment posted: 14/04/2025

Great comment thanks Michael - indeed I chose the S5 Pro as an example precisely because it seemed to me its goals were so specific and it came at a time when much of the photographic process was in transition from film to digital. I think I'm over the "film-like" thing myself now and can just make the sort of images I want to make irrespective of the capture method. Within limits of course - but those limits are not based on whether it's film or digital. (There's a whole 'nother story of course when you start looking at the structure of film grain.) I'm not likely to go digital Hasselblad I think, for reasons of cost and bulk, but it would be fun to have a play! I did try out a Fuji GFX but it not really seem to do much for me. Cheers.

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Alexander Seidler on Fujifilm S5 Pro and What does “Film-Like” Even Mean?

Comment posted: 15/04/2025

Thanks for you interesting article, David !
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Comment posted: 15/04/2025

Cheers Alexander - you’re welcome!

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Louis Sousa on Fujifilm S5 Pro and What does “Film-Like” Even Mean?

Comment posted: 15/04/2025

The Leica M8 is the most filmic digital camera I have shot. I am not sure if the sensor is proprietary or a third party one.
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Comment posted: 15/04/2025

Hi Lewis. Yes the M8 has the mythic Kodak CCD sensor. And you are certainly no orphan in making that assessment about its "film like" qualities. I was not going to buy an M8 to try it out, but I did buy an Oly E-300 which has the same type of sensor, albeit in 4/3 not APSC size. What I found was that it's a nice sensor (but gets hot pixels at exposures of a few seconds). So I found out how to replicate its output with my other, more modern sensors. I think that's the nub of this piece now for me. by using a modern sensor with better DR than the older ones I can then replicate their output if I choose to. I can see the appeal for people who don't want to, or who don't know how to, replicate this in post and just want nice jpegs out of the camera with minimum fuss. In fact I just bought a Leica D Lux 8 and its SOOC jpegs do not rally appeal to me, so I might work on tweaking those in-camera to go along with the raws. All the best, David

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James Kezman on Fujifilm S5 Pro and What does “Film-Like” Even Mean?

Comment posted: 16/04/2025

Great article! I have had a Leica M9 since 2010 – also a Kodak CCD. For me, the shooting experience is film-like, especially if you used to shoot chromes – you have limited exposure latitude and it is very easy to cook the highlights, but when you nail it, the images can be stellar. You also can't push the exposure too high or the image just turns into a chromatic mess – I think that the only slide film that I pushed regularly was Ekta E200 which was designed to be pushed. Interestingly, I finally upgraded to an M11 last year and, well, I sort of prefer the colors from the M9. Maybe I need to find the right processing, but the colors from the CCD sensors had that slide film punch that seems to be harder to replicate with CMOS sensors. Oh, well, we are a bit spoiled for choice these days…
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Comment posted: 16/04/2025

Thanks for the comment, James, and yes that aligns closely with my own experience except I have not used an M9. But what I would say about using the Kodak CCD in the Olympus was that the first lot of files I got back when I was doing lowlight seascapes I thought well these are fantastic. And then once I'd seen them I realised that I could actually replicate that look with either my Fuji or my Nikon, without too much trouble. It was just that I had not really thought about doing that in the first place. The look of the Kodak gave me the idea that I could do it if I wanted to. And that is pretty much the whole story I think. But then in the type of work I'm doing I do a lot of post processing on the colours and curves to get the sort of feel I want, and so the base that I start with is probably less important than it might be for very many people.

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Dave on Fujifilm S5 Pro and What does “Film-Like” Even Mean?

Comment posted: 16/04/2025

I've done this, too.... fallen down the rabbit hole of CCD sensors and which one was the most filmic....

I tried the Fuji S5 - loved it, but wanted more flexibility in lens choice

I tried the Pentax 645D - a monster of a camera, with a Kodak CCD to die for... but ponderous and, again, limited in lens choice...

I tried several others, going through Panasonic (Lumix), Ricoh GR, nothing was quite what I was looking for as far as the final look....

I finally decided that I genuinely could make the filmic thing in my main camera bodies if I worked hard enough at the post-processing....
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Comment posted: 16/04/2025

Cheers Dave Snap! I agree with you here. A crop sensor (like the Fuji) is not like shooting a full frame because of the way it plays with the lenses. I would shoot the D700 over the Fuji S5 Pro and day of the week. And yes, I 'very much shot a Pentax 645D when they were currrent and agree re the gorgeousness of the files - in fact I recently tried to buy one but it turned out to be a scam (PayPal protected me thankfully) And yes, because of the way I do things now I'm perfectly happy to use the Lightroom Presets I've developed and twak those to get whay I'm after. I had to do the processes though! It look me a long time to get to a very simple conclusion!

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Gary Smith on Fujifilm S5 Pro and What does “Film-Like” Even Mean?

Comment posted: 16/04/2025

Like you David, I just keep getting grumpier and grumpier...

I suppose given that I have 8 film cameras now, I can get a film-like shot anytime I want. I can probably even turn a Fomopan 100 shot into a Tri-X shot in post.

What I have yet to do is successfully take my Toyo 45a out and get anything worth talking about. Of course, this is my fault, it has only ever exposed 2 sheets by my hand but I should have new chemistry this week and the weather is starting to get good, so look for a "% exposures from my Toyo 45a" coming to 35mmc before the end of the year...
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David Hume replied:

Comment posted: 16/04/2025

Cheers Gary - Yes, I'm not sure where I stand on film at the moment... For the stuff I'm doing with seascapes I think dig is suiting me more, but we'll see what transpires. (I'm also less and less inclined to bother taking film through airports with all the new CT scanners)

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Ibraar Hussain on Fujifilm S5 Pro and What does “Film-Like” Even Mean?

Comment posted: 18/04/2025

Interesting analysis and argument. I have yet to watch your video, but my experience is different and my conclusion differs, which I wrote about on an Olympus E-1 article here.
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Ibraar Hussain replied:

Comment posted: 18/04/2025

I just wrote an article for Olympus Passion magazine (https://www.olympuspassion.com/), this is an excerpt from that "..earlier DSLR's (and Digicams) were made when the benchmark was Film. They were designed and made to mimic and/or compare to and achieve what could be made with Film, to give the consumer something they're familiar with, hence they managed to give a similar look, feel, colour and depth, which was the case until Digital exceeded 35mm Colour Film for most purposes. This is the “CCD look”. Scientific CCD devices are different, far more expensive and for a different purpose, whereas consumer Photographic sensors were made to match and then replace Film (for most purposes and consumers). Now modern sensors have far exceeded Film (in most cases) in terms of Dynamic range (towards the shadow zones) and having a much higher signal to noise ration the gain is advanced enough to eliminate noise in the darkest shadow areas and in the lowest of lights handheld! Modern sensors having been developed with the benchmark being older Digital sensors and exceeding their characteristics, and thus any relation to Film has long been left behind.

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David Hume replied:

Comment posted: 18/04/2025

Hi Ibraar - Is your article up yet? I had a look and could not find it... Anyway, I agree with all you say above... I guess I'd also say that early digital sensors were not that good - did not have the highlight retention of colour-neg film etc. even when they did match the resolution. (hence attempts like the Fuji Super CCD) And yes, now digital sensors easily outstrip what film did so if we want to we can nobble them back to being film-like if we choose to and are willing to put in the effort. I'm not talking about grain vs dig noise though; that's a different subject. It's interesting now - I am not particularly concerned with the absolute accuracy of any camera's output and I guess you could say that fidelity would be a goal of modern camera makers, yet it's interesting that people still have preferences - the "Leica Look" vs "Hasselblad colour science" etc that still seems emotive. So I guess film is still relevant because our collective memory tends to form an aesthetic based on how we remember photos from the past and camera makers do seem to have their ides on what is "pleasing" and they add this to the mix of how they choose to process the colours from their sensors. Cheers - I look forward to checking out your full article!

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Ibraar Hussain replied:

Comment posted: 18/04/2025

Thanks David My article will be published in their April issue magazine rather than website but I did write an article about the CCD Kodak based Olympus E1 here on 35mmc last year. The E1 is my main camera and the photographs I get from it blow any mirrorless I’ve ever used out of the water and then some. Why? Not because they’re technically better (they aren’t by a long way) but they have a look which harkens back and that is what makes them look like photographs straight out of camera rather than realistic true colour clinical scene capture. My point was that we can manipulate an image to look however we want it to - being able to mimic Tri X doesn’t mean Tri X ceases to be or is redundant - We can manipulate Velvia and such but it’s just manipulation. I think think modern cameras images are awful soulless things - much like modern smartphone shots which I detest. too ‘real’ - I don’t want real, I want a photograph which has an emotive charge with a lot of that based on stuff I’ve seen over the decades. Hence the film look (and the 24p still used in cinema - they’ve tried the 60p and faster frame rates and digital look and they all look really bad). It’s one reason why I shoot B&W as it’s not in any way entrenched in the actual real scene in front of me - rather it’s in my mind and heart and as a guide I look to have something akin to say McCullin. People these days look to CCD based cameras with fondness as the images are objectively more pleasing as photographs as they resemble film photographs to a certain extent CCD images from years ago being made to give customers something they can relate to gives them a connection and you get the images more or less straight out of the camera without any tiresome emulation. Hence there’s really no point in trying to disprove the CCD hype as the hype mongers have a point!

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David Hume replied:

Comment posted: 18/04/2025

Good Point! And now I remember that piece you wrote on the E -1. Interestingly; this becomes relevant again as I just bought a Leica D Lux 8 and don't really like the colours/monochrome out of it, So what I've done is work out two LR presets for its raws; one for colour, one for B+W that I like, and the next thing to do is to make a couple of In-Camera settings in the camera profiles to get SOOC jpegs as close as I can to this. So I guess the result is the same, but I'm moulding the camera to my taste rather than finding the camera that does it to start with. I think the only point I'd take issue with in what you've said above is that the hype seems to extend to the idea that there's look from CCD that you can't get from modern cameras, whereas I'd say yes, you can get it, but you have to care enough to put the work in. And my daughter is a good case in point: she got me back in to shooting film, loves her Portra 400 but tweaks the shop scans only for black and white points, and now loves the Op-Shop Digicam I found for her. She cares about the aesthetic but i doubt she's be following this discussion!

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Dan Grove on Fujifilm S5 Pro and What does “Film-Like” Even Mean?

Comment posted: 21/04/2025

I want to wade in on this! Sorry this is so long lol. I've never properly used film although I have dabbled with it. To me film is all about scratches on frames, aggressively gritty/rich/saturated shadows and then very soft and sort of creamy highlights. Contrasty, organic, saturated etc. Meyerowitz/Winogrand ish sort of vibes I guess. Film shadows are absolutely spectacular. My experience of film is dabbling a bit with it in college but mostly looking through loads of pics from the family photo album. Late 90s drugstore film from some kind of overly complicated Samsung camera.

I don't think it's ever about a technical reproduction of film. I want the "artistic reproduction" of what I think film/memories look like and a practical way to reliably achieve this. Same kind of deal with modern computational photography in smartphones like I don't particularly mind it.

Imo it is basically impossible to get an indistinguishable film look from digital files like they are just too clean and at the extremes feel a lot more linear than digital. My min-max approach to getting a film-adjacent kind of look with digital is basically to squash/clip the shadows pretty aggressively in Levels. I get the impression that film transitions from shadow to black quite suddenly and JPEGs can often look quite muddy where they usually retain more shadow detail than preferred.

I love film colours but getting them to actually look legit and not like a pastiche is usually too much work lol so I leave colours as whatever the camera is set to. Colours from my iPhone pics are different to my X100F pics and my GRIIIx pics (although I have JPEG processing stuff set up in camera for all of them, Ricoh positive film is gorgeous). VSCO et al also has a lot to answer for with this stuff, I probably wouldn't even know Ektar or Agfa or Gold or whatever existed otherwise. Heathen!

I don't even mind if I've got half of the above wrong lol but yeah finding the specific look you want (including in the actual photos you take) is such a rewarding process. Fantastic read <3
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David Hume replied:

Comment posted: 21/04/2025

Thanks Dan… There is a lot in what you say. I would add something. Let’s suppose, by way of computational photography that you could reproduce something that to the eye was indistinguishable from a film photograph. And yet in your heart you knew it was not film but digital.What about that? And this is not an ironic question I think it’s very serious. Should we be trying to make our images into something that we know they are not? Going through this whole process has enabled me to view my digital and my film images in a different way. It’s a very enjoyable process!

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