A Brace of Elmars

Leitz 50mm f3.5 and the 135mm f4 – A Brace of Elmars – Sublime to Ridiculous

By Geoff Chaplin

Specifically the Leitz 50mm f3.5 and the 135mm f4, both LTM and both are late coated versions. Tony Warren recently wrote an excellent review of the 90mm Elmar should you wish to investigate that one.

Ergonomics

The 50mm has a front facing f-stop adjustment and doesn’t take standard screw filters (the horrible clamp-on filters and hood are an option) but otherwise the compactness and mechanical quality of the lens are superb, but the main attraction is it is ultra-compact and light.

The 135mm takes 39mm filters, has easy to use focus and aperture adjustment, and for a 135 is amazingly light at only a little over 400g. But but but ….. it is the most embarrassing lens to carry about. I wondered about hiding it in a carrier bag when I’m in public but decided that by holding the lens and camera vertically with the camera at the top, and grabbing the lens in the middle the ridiculous length of the lens is not immediately apparent being largely hidden by may arm. If you were to hang it round your neck you might get into trouble.

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135 on the Leica iiig

Why is the 135 so long? Partly it’s down to the small (by modern standards) maximum aperture of f4 giving an impression of length relative to the narrow width. More fundamentally this is a ‘long lens’ as opposed to a ‘telephoto lens’ – the latter uses a concave rear group to stretch the focal length of the short-focus front group (rather like a Barlow lens on a telescope if you are familiar with that). The 135 is not a telephoto lens so the lens is roughly as long as its focal length.

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The tripod socket is not parallel to the camera base – and it’s worse on the Sony

On the iiig there are no framelines for 135 so either get a separate viewfinder or, far from ideal, guess. Life wouldn’t be much improved on an M body because the frameline area is so tiny.

Focussing issues

The 50mm lens presents little problem on either a Leica body or a digital camera. (But remember to tape the lens extended to prevent collapsing it and destroying your digital sensor.)

The 135 is problematic hand-held on both film and digital: hand shakiness renders accurate focus difficult but not impossible – eased if you can brace yourself – and is worsened on rangefinder cameras because of the long focal length and short rangefinder base let alone any mis-calibration of the rangefinder system. On digital remember to make sure IS is both on and set to the correct focal length.

Bokeh

The 50mm is probably not the lens you’d choose if you’re looking for images that ‘pop’ with creamy OOF backgrounds. The two images below show the 135 at f4 and f8 with the park bench armrest at the near focus point (1.5m).

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135mm at f8
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135mm at f4

Performance

So how good are these lenses optically? I tested both lenses on my Sony A7Riii taking in-camera jpgs without adjustment other than converting to B&W with a yellow filter. Modern well-made lenses tend to be virtually perfect at f8 (though my Russian Sonnar is an exception) while aberrations become more obvious at wide aperture. In the two shots below taken at maximum aperture focus is on the central tea packet. In the case of the 135 in-focus items remain sharp across the field. The enlarged image represents an approximately 8-10 times (linear) enlargement.

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50mm Elmar at f3.5
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50mm Elmar, central crop.
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135mm at f4
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135mm central crop

After viewing many images my conclusion is the 50mm Elmar is a decent lens at narrower apertures, sharp and contrasty on normal enlargements, but not as good as modern lenses. The 135 is a remarkable lens optically, hard to find anything better I think.

Images

The following images were all taken at f8. Photographs made with the iiig are with a yellow filter and are on type 517 film exposed at 50-100 asa and developed in PMK Pyro. With hindsight (first time trying 517 in PMK) I’d expose at 25 or even 12 asa another time.

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50mm on Sony
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135mm on Sony
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50mm on Sony
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135mm on Sony
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50mm on iiig. Loneliness in the park
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50mm on iiig.
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50mm on iiig. Chess in the park.
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135mm on iiig.

Conclusions

If you have a Barnack body then the 50mm f3.5 Elmar is the natural lens to choose – appropriate focal length and ultra compact – the camera and lens become almost jeans pocketable.

If you have a digital body and want a long focal length lens then the 135 is a no-brainer because of low cost, light weight and superb image quality.

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By Geoff Chaplin
Primarily a user of Leica film cameras and 8x10 for the past 30 years, recently a mix of film and digital. Interests are concept and series based art work. Professionally trained in astronomical photography, a scientist and mathematician.
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Ibraar Hussain on Leitz 50mm f3.5 and the 135mm f4 – A Brace of Elmars – Sublime to Ridiculous

Comment posted: 04/07/2025

Thanks for the review and the pleasing photos man.
I’ve no experiemce using anything Leica but this lens looks interesting on the leica
Body.
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Geoff Chaplin replied:

Comment posted: 04/07/2025

Thanks Ibraar. It can be adapted to many digital bodies. Of course I'd like you to rush out and buy an M3 body, or a iiig, but not compulsory ;-)

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Ibraar Hussain replied:

Comment posted: 04/07/2025

Hehe! How about a Dresden Contax rather than Leica iiig ?

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Geoff Chaplin replied:

Comment posted: 04/07/2025

Probably only digital if non-Leica, unless the flange to film distance is less than that on a Leica. In short, dream on!

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Roger on Leitz 50mm f3.5 and the 135mm f4 – A Brace of Elmars – Sublime to Ridiculous

Comment posted: 04/07/2025

Thanks for an interesting article, as I have the 135 lens. I hadn’t known for certain why it was so long. It was bought because it was going for what I thought was a very reasonable price, and I wanted something longer than the 50mm on a Leica IIIf. However, because of its awkward size it has hardly been used. Somehow it just doesn’t seem right on that camera. You make me realise that I should try it out on my Sony digital, something I have never done, despite having all the necessary adapters. IBIS and higher ISO than on the Leica should both help.
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Geoff Chaplin replied:

Comment posted: 04/07/2025

Roger, thanks, give it a go on the Sony. If you can get over the embarrassment, and have a big enough camera bag (!) I don't think you'll be disappointed.

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Nigel Cliff on Leitz 50mm f3.5 and the 135mm f4 – A Brace of Elmars – Sublime to Ridiculous

Comment posted: 04/07/2025

I had the 135mm for a while and I concur how ridiculous it looked especially on my Fuji X-T2,to be fair the results were OK but I had better 135mm lenses that didn't look as daft so it went,then again £30 bought £40 sold
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Geoff Chaplin replied:

Comment posted: 04/07/2025

Thanks Nigel. As you imply, low cost, low risk. Worth a try before splashing out on a 135 f2 that's too heavy to carry around!

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Reed George on Leitz 50mm f3.5 and the 135mm f4 – A Brace of Elmars – Sublime to Ridiculous

Comment posted: 04/07/2025

Thank you for the interesting article. I’m a Leica nut, and love the older Barnack cameras and lenses. I avoid absolute judgments like good, bad, better, worse, and pick my kit for the character I want to see, from old school to the latest offerings. Really enjoyed seeing your images and reading your thoughts!
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Geoff Chaplin replied:

Comment posted: 04/07/2025

Many thanks Reed. On film the M3 is really the only camera you can focus with, even then it depends on camera calibration. Great on any digital body.

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Kodachromeguy on Leitz 50mm f3.5 and the 135mm f4 – A Brace of Elmars – Sublime to Ridiculous

Comment posted: 04/07/2025

Every Leica LTM user likes the f/3.5 Elmar, but by the time you add some of the clamp-on filters to your kit, you have lost much of the compact benefit. One of the later versions (f/3.5 or f/2.8) will let you use 39mm filters. But is is hard to find the later models in LTM and without haze.
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Geoff Chaplin replied:

Comment posted: 04/07/2025

Thanks Kg. You're right about those awful clamp-on attachments so I only use the 50 for street photography without hood or filter. Clean 2.8 Elmars do exist albeit hard to find. I had one but didn't like the rendition plus the pocketability of camera is lost.

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Gary Smith on Leitz 50mm f3.5 and the 135mm f4 – A Brace of Elmars – Sublime to Ridiculous

Comment posted: 04/07/2025

When I acquired my iiic Barnack the 50/2 Summicron seemed like the "natural" choice. I'm glad that I never saw the 135 because I might have spent more money.

Thanks for your article Geoff!
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Geoff Chaplin replied:

Comment posted: 04/07/2025

Thanks Gary. The 50 cron was probably expensive but superb. I wouldn't recommend the 135 on anything other than an M3 because of difficulties focussing.

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Eric Rose on Leitz 50mm f3.5 and the 135mm f4 – A Brace of Elmars – Sublime to Ridiculous

Comment posted: 04/07/2025

The out "in the wild" images look sharper than your test image for the 50mm. I wonder if there was a tiny bit of camera shake in the kitchen. Thanks for the images! Both lenses have a nice look to them.
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Geoff Chaplin replied:

Comment posted: 04/07/2025

Well done Eric! I intended to keep quiet about that, but guess who forgot to change the lens focal length setting under IS ....

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Arthur Gottschalk on Leitz 50mm f3.5 and the 135mm f4 – A Brace of Elmars – Sublime to Ridiculous

Comment posted: 04/07/2025

Why insult the clamp-on filters? They work perfectly, are easy to use, and have no chance of getting stuck on the lens.
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Geoff Chaplin replied:

Comment posted: 04/07/2025

Thanks Arthur for putting in a word for the clamp-ons. I don't like them, and can't use them on any other lenses I have apart from the Summar (where the hood is essential), and have never had a problem with screw in filters jamming. But they definitely go with the old school character of Barnack bodies.

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David Pauley on Leitz 50mm f3.5 and the 135mm f4 – A Brace of Elmars – Sublime to Ridiculous

Comment posted: 05/07/2025

Thanks Geoff for the very interesting read! I quite like the results from 135mm f4 on my M3 -- the tripod base is for whatever reason properly balanced on my copy, and the focus calibration is good -- but agree that it makes for an ungainly package. It's not a lens that sees much use in my kit. My best shot from it was of a baby deer (perhaps newly born) sleeping in some dewy grass. Approaching any closer with a shorter focal length would have spooked the critter for sure. Thanks again!
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Geoff Chaplin replied:

Comment posted: 05/07/2025

Thanks Dave. Mine too has languished unused for many years.

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Jeffery Luhn on Leitz 50mm f3.5 and the 135mm f4 – A Brace of Elmars – Sublime to Ridiculous

Comment posted: 05/07/2025

Geoff,
Nice outdoor images from that 135mm. It is a long beast and I'd have difficulty holding it steady. Being a Nikon guy, of course I have a 135mm. It's a focal length I've never been fond of. Too long for my style of street portraiture and not long enough for wildlife and sports. The model I have is a f/3.5. Way back in the day I used a 180mm f/2.8 Nikkor for shooting rock concerts and it was exceptional and not much longer that the Nikkor 135. Certainly shorter that your 135mm according to your photos. Nikon bodies and Nikkor lenses have always been the blue collar working man's gear for good reasons. The products are bombproof. Focusing is bright and easy. There's loads of good quality used gear out there. But these comments are off topic.

Back to Leica gear. I'm not a Leica user, but I've recently gotten a 1954 era IIIf loaned to me by a retired photographer because I mentioned to him that I'd never shot with a Leica. He was shocked that a 72-year-old (me) that spent his entire life as a pro photographer never used a Leica. He made it clear to me that if I liked his camera, I could have it at half the going rate. Of course I borrowed it! The experience has not gone well so far. Loading the camera took about 50 minutes because I had to watch a tutorial to get it right. In the end, I had to cut the 'tongue' on the leader quite long to make it work. Shooting outdoors was easy, but my focus indoors was not good because the rangefinder window is small and dim.
I want to be thrilled by this perfectly cared for and recently serviced Leica, but it presents me with a high threshold. Additionally, my test shots compared to my Nikon and my Zeiss Contessa did not show any better sharpness or contrast. Frankly, they underwhelmed me. Why didn't I catch the Leica bug? What am I missing?
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Lomo replied:

Comment posted: 05/07/2025

Firstly, there is no need to cut the film. Yes it does make loading a little bit easier, but it's also a faff to cut. After a couple of goes it's actually fairly easy to load without the cutting. Secondly the appeal of the mkiii comes from the raw mechanical experience of shooting with the most basic, but solid construction of cameras. You can fit modern lenses, I use a 25mm voightlander ltm for example, or if you can find a good one you can shoot with a period leica lens. The best period lens I've tried so far is a collapsible 50mm summicron. Focusing with this camera is awful, and impossible if you use many lenses. So it's best to use zone focusing or hyperfocal. Composition with the built in viewfinder is also difficult, especially if you are using wide angles, so take a shoe mounted viewfinder. There's no exposure meter, so get ready to use basic rules or a separate meter (or a phone app). On a typical medium brightness day outside, most of the time you want f8 and about 1/125 th of a second with a typical film speed adjusted accordingly. Overall it's an 'experience', and probably not one for taking professional photographs. However for forcing you to understand the basics of photography and enjoy using a period camera designed to be compact and reliable, it's hard to beat.

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Geoff Chaplin replied:

Comment posted: 05/07/2025

Jeffery, thanks. The Barnacks are not the easiest Leicas to use and appreciate - iiig being the best of the bunch, generally being little used so in better condition. The M3 is a totally different ball game, and gives access to the best lenses from Zeiss and others. I gave up Nikon after lending my consumer camera to my (ex) wife - it came back smashed.

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Tom Aspin on Leitz 50mm f3.5 and the 135mm f4 – A Brace of Elmars – Sublime to Ridiculous

Comment posted: 08/07/2025

I had my first Leica (iiif) around 1997, as I'd always wanted one. I have the 2.8 elmar and the 3.5 summaron, and looks wise it an absolute jewel of a camera, but I really struggled with the viewfinder arrangement. I doubt I have shot more than five or six films through it.
I aquired a very old (1933) black paint and nickel plated ii, with original nickel lens a few years ago, and this is an abolute joy to shoot, as it has the separate viewfinder and rangefinder windows, which in my view are easier to use than the later style. I'm not sure when this changed, but the iia and iiia have this arrangement as well.
I still use a small leitz supplemetary finder in the cold shoe for framing, as I find this helps a great deal.
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Geoff Chaplin replied:

Comment posted: 08/07/2025

Thanks Tom. Well we're all different! I didn't like my early Leica (around 100k body number) or the iiif or iiic I tried but am happy with the iiig - largely because of condition.

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