HR50 and PanF in PMK pyro

Adox HR-50 and PanF in PMK Pyro

By Geoff Chaplin

The launch of Leica Monopan 50 prompted me to buy the Adox HR-50 (the same film) and give it a try. Recommended ASA and developing time in PMK is not given so I decided to expose at a third of a stop below 50asa and develop for 9min at 21deg – the recommendations for PanF, so I also decided to expose a roll of the latter and develop together with the HR-50. Both exposure and developing times appeared to be satisfactory but see the comments below regarding highlights. Note that Adox (typical of all their film) recommend their own special developer for this film.

The Adox is on a PET base and can (and did) lead to some light piping (see CHS II) when loading in bright sunlight but led to the loss of only the first frame, other stray light affecting only the rebates. If that frame had not been affected I would have got 38 frames from that film and 39 frames from another roll of HR-50, and 38 from the PanF. I did notice that when the sun was in the frame or close to the edge then light bleeding appeared to affect a larger area of the image with the HR-50 than on traditional films.

I shot all films in a Leica MP with a Zeiss 35mm C-Biogon lens.

HR50 and PanF in PMK pyro
HR50: sun in the frame
HR50 and PanF in PMK pyro
PanF: sun in the frame

It’s not clear what the Adox film is based on (Adox themselves say it is “based on an emulsion commonly available for technical purposes”) – I’m guessing an Agfa copyfilm. Adox have applied their own “speed boost” technology which I’m guessing is pre-flashing – I can’t think of a chemical process that could be used on a ready made film to increase speed. If anyone knows the actual film or process used please enlighten me. Several of the images show a loss of highlight detail – a problem associated with pre-flashing – so I’ll need to be careful about highlights in the image in future. Adox’s own developer may address this problem – I have some so when I get round to using more film with their developer I’ll report back! Omar Tibi claims it’s based on Aviphot 80 which may be the case but then 80asa + “speed boost” technology = 50asa ???? doesn’t seem to make sense. Omar also claims that the highlights are well controlled which I did not find although PMK is very good at controlling highlights. On the other hand Omar’s claim could explain the highlight problem and perhaps Adox’s own developer slows the highlight development. But I think I’ll stick with the copyfilm theory.

HR50 and PanF in PMK pyro
HR50: loss of highlights and bleeding
HR50 and PanF in PMK pyro
HR50: loss of highlight detail in the upper left window – but the mid-tones are lovely

Incidentally on great enlargement grain for both films is very similar and minimal. I do very much like the tonal rendition of HR-50 in the low and mid-tones, more so than for the PanF, something that surprised me.

HR50 and PanF in PMK pyro
HR50: again lovely mid-tones
HR50 and PanF in PMK pyro
PanF: mid-tones also very nice
HR50 and PanF in PMK pyro
PanF: well controlled highlight
HR50 and PanF in PMK pyro
PanF: highlight well controlled

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By Geoff Chaplin
Primarily a user of Leica film cameras and 8x10 for the past 30 years, recently a mix of film and digital. Interests are concept and series based art work. Professionally trained in astronomical photography, a scientist and mathematician.
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Russ Rosener on Adox HR-50 and PanF in PMK Pyro

Comment posted: 15/10/2025

I never liked the Adox 50 emulsions. Pretty much all you end up with is soot or chalk. Any shots with midtones are not much better. All in my opinion but I think when you compare it here to Ilford Pan F it's clearly an inferior emulsion. Adox 50 might be better in a controlled studio lighting situation where you can keep everything within a 1.5 stop range.

Leitz should probably stick to cameras and microscopes.
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Geoff Chaplin replied:

Comment posted: 15/10/2025

Ha, ha! Well said - I completely agree about Leica. It seems odd they are promoting film when they clearly have more interest in flogging digital cameras and overprices lenses.

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Colin replied:

Comment posted: 15/10/2025

In the 8-9 years from 2015 to 2023, Leica went from producing 500 film cameras per year to producing almost 5000. That's 5000 film cameras compared to 11000 or 12000 digital M cameras. So I don't think it's odd at all that they are pushing film in some way, if it makes up that proportion of their rangefinder camera production. Andreas Kaufmann of Leica did an interview with the French Phototrend website around the end of 2023 / beginning of 2024... "What do you think of the return of analog?" "We are quite satisfied because we are still the only ones who can produce film cameras. In our factories, you can still see old machines dedicated to film cameras in operation. But in 2015, we thought about throwing everything away because we were only producing 500 film cameras per year. But there has been a nice rebound since then and, in 2023, we will produce nearly 5,000 M6 and MP analog devices." "And how many cameras in total?" "In the digital M range, I think it's 11 or 12,000 per year. Since this is a high priced camera, it is not very wise to go for larger production. But I would say that we really appreciate the return of analog. And we will do more. The key elements are laboratory development and management. This is the trickiest part. And we are looking into the matter."

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Geoff Chaplin replied:

Comment posted: 15/10/2025

Thanks for the info Colin, that is indeed good to hear. I guess my view is tainted by visits to the Tokyo Leica gallery and shop years ago where the emphasis always seemed to be on digital photography and cameras. I only hope they produce an M3 variant of the MP!

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Jens Kotlenga on Adox HR-50 and PanF in PMK Pyro

Comment posted: 15/10/2025

Geoff, thanks for sharing your findings with the rest of us.
I tried HR-50 when it first appeared on the market. The results I got were very much what I expected: very sharp, fine grain and good but not exceptional tonalty over the entire gradation curve.
I find myself at odds with some of your conclusions. For me this boils down to two aspects. On the one hand I conclude that PMK is obviously not the developer that makes HR-50 shine. ADOX's recommendations are pretty clear on this matter. And on the other hand: Do you expect to be able to "print" your images with little or no fine-tuning in postprocessing? If so, your standards are very high indeed.
My routine is basically stickig to a manufacturer's recommendations and tuning a print in post. For this reason, I guess, our mileage varies when it comes to assessing a film's quality and capability.
Which reminds me: I must get out there and shoot some more of this film - after all, I invested in 30 metres of the stuff, plus ADOX's bespoke developer ...
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Geoff Chaplin replied:

Comment posted: 15/10/2025

Thanks Jens. I try to avoid anything in post particularly if I'm shooting LF. Typically for scans I set black and white points with a straight line in between and that's it. Wet process printing I also avoid dodging and burning because it can so easily be overdone. Having said that all the shots above with the sun in the frame or over-exposed areas are unacceptable. I agree Adox's own developer is probably a better bet.

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Ibraar Hussain on Adox HR-50 and PanF in PMK Pyro

Comment posted: 15/10/2025

Thanks Geoff
It reminds me of rollei Retro 80s
Has similar characteristics
Superb razor sharp and wonderful tones in the photos
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Geoff Chaplin replied:

Comment posted: 15/10/2025

Thanks Ibraar. Yes I think its an Agfa film, they all have common characteristics in the grain structure and overall sensitivity, but if "speed boost technology" actually increases speed I'd have to plump for Copex

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Jeffery Luhn on Adox HR-50 and PanF in PMK Pyro

Comment posted: 15/10/2025

Geoff,
Very well done photos. You shot in difficult situations, which is the true test. The photos give me a good idea about the film characteristics. Slow emulsions are not easy to control in high contrast scenes! Your move to drop ISO a bit was a good strategy. I agree that the Adox looks like it has been flashed because the highlights are a bit veiled. It didn't benefit in the shadows like I would have expected. That's the reason I flash film; to overcome the base threshold and give the shadows a bit of a boost. Not significant here. The Pan F looks like it has a broader scale. The shadows looked more open on my monitor. Really nice scale. I'd be very happy with that on slow film. I suspect Pyro is better matched to Pan F than Adox.

Per your recommendation, I've used Pyro PMK and had good results in high contrast scenes. I haven't tried it on Pan F, but with FP4 in harsh conditions it has held highlight detail much better than other developers. It really works well on 4x5 HP5 and Rollei IR film.

Question: Do you use a non-hardening fix to preserve the staining? That's been the key for me. It does allow for easy scratching, so great care is needed. No squeegy.

Thanks for a good posting!
Jeffery
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Geoff Chaplin replied:

Comment posted: 15/10/2025

Thanks again Jeffery. Yes I agree about PMK and Adox, and also the reason for pre-flashing. If the base film was 25asa then maybe the pre-flash has raised the shadows, but perhaps not as much as one would expect from a 50asa film. I use Ilford's standard rapid fixer - supposedly non-hardening - and return the film to the developer for two minutes before the wash cycle. I get quite obvious staining though it does vary from frame to frame with the brightness of the actual scene. For scans, I scan RAW (hence colour) and convert to B&W with a colour ilter to best enhance the highlight detail.

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Jeffery Luhn replied:

Comment posted: 15/10/2025

Thanks, Geoff.

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John H Osterholm on Adox HR-50 and PanF in PMK Pyro

Comment posted: 15/10/2025

Can someone here tell me a current, if anyone can process the Adox b&w slide film, formerly known as Agfa Scala? I have taken photos with both and the Adox film is wonderful
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Geoff Chaplin replied:

Comment posted: 15/10/2025

HR-50 and Adox Scala are supposedly the same film. Adox supplies a reversal processing kit. Of course any b&w film can be reversal processed though i have no idea whether the adox kit will work on other films - but see no reason why not.

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Simon Foale on Adox HR-50 and PanF in PMK Pyro

Comment posted: 16/10/2025

Discussions at this link https://www.photrio.com/forum/threads/here-list-of-repackaged-agfa-aviphot-pan-80-and-200-films-and-kentmere-100-and-400-films.196304/ suggest HR-50 is Aviphot Pan 80 with whatever modification Adox adds. Geoff have you tried reduced agitation with PMK Pyro?
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Geoff Chaplin replied:

Comment posted: 16/10/2025

Thanks Simon. It looks like they are guessing too. Perhaps Adox are trying to confuse us with "speed boost" = 'lifting the toe of the curve'. Aviphot 80 is a great film but as an aerial film is not too concerned with the shadows (light is from above generally) so lifting the toe is a good idea but pre-flashing risks the highlights, added to which they suggest exposing at a lower ASA; exposing at 120asa might make more sense. I'll try the film with their dedicated developer and re-asses. It would be nice to know what sort of developer it is - soft-working? I generally follow Hutchin's advice on development so no, I haven't tried reduced agitation.

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