A group chat for contributors / paid subs

By Hamish Gill

I am thinking about setting up maybe a whatsapp group chat or similar for contributors. Open to ideas around a platform, as long as it’s nothing too complicated to use.

Who would be interested?

Suggestions, thoughts, comments?

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By Hamish Gill
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Peter Schu on A group chat for contributors / paid subs

Comment posted: 10/06/2026

Discussion, comments are linked to photos and stories. In a chat group one could discuss things independent of posts and that could be interesting. However, I avoid using Whatsapp and similar and I am using exclusively 'Signal'. I also donate them something once in a while. I read the interesting sentence: if something is free in the internet, you are the product.
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Paul Quellin on A group chat for contributors / paid subs

Comment posted: 10/06/2026

Hi Hamish, I would certainly be interested, though I would also have some concerns. I am in a group for my local invertebrate group... it's quiet enough in the winter, but at this time of year it can be rather a lot. I really ought to get around to silencing notifications from the group. It can get a little overused at times and this is just a small group of people. With the group I am in, potentially interesting information can disappear in a matter of minutes under the sheer volume of messages about something else and I find I end up disengaging for periods. There is a disproportionate number of retired folk and they have time for lots of messages (I haven't too long to go, but haven't got to that point yet). Perhaps the 35mmc crew has a similar profile, I don't know. I am not very good with Whatsapp settings and I am sure it is possible to manage all this better than I do, so maybe some guidance on it's use would be worthwhile.

I wonder if a 35mmc one might require some rules for subjects and frequency, especially allowing for time zones. Perhaps potentially longer conversations could be referred to individual messaging to keep the chat manageable. I can certainly see lots of benefits too. I suspect I would use it for appealing for help with particular cameras, processing issues, films etc.

Got to be worth a trial at least I think, maybe with a set date to review it's use.

Best regards Paul
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Des McSweeney replied:

Comment posted: 10/06/2026

Paul I think you should leave your group and start another with a more tightly defined subject area. that should reduce the numbers and improve relevance to you. Thought your comment on we oldies was a tad unnecessary...

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Michael Zwicky-Ross on A group chat for contributors / paid subs

Comment posted: 10/06/2026

WhatsApp for me ideally
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Rollin Banderob on A group chat for contributors / paid subs

Comment posted: 10/06/2026

I like Discord.
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Erik Brammer on A group chat for contributors / paid subs

Comment posted: 10/06/2026

Hi Hamish,

I think it’s a good idea to create a platform for contributors, but I think a single group chat will become very chaotic, in particular in case people don’t quote the comment they might be responding to.
Don from Crown+Flint has created a Discord group, part of which is public, some of it is limited to beta testers. Things a separated into categories. That works reasonably well.
Don’t forget, I am one of those Germans… :-)
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Matthew Bigwood on A group chat for contributors / paid subs

Comment posted: 10/06/2026

I would be happy to be in a WhatsApp group, or whatever people feel is best to use.
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Des McSweeney on A group chat for contributors / paid subs

Comment posted: 10/06/2026

WhatsaApp for me too. My specific interest would be non-Leica M lenses in particular better insights on China made lenses and not so much Cosina production..
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Fred Nelson on A group chat for contributors / paid subs

Comment posted: 10/06/2026

I like that idea.!!
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Ibraar Hussain on A group chat for contributors / paid subs

Comment posted: 10/06/2026

Great idea, but I don't have whatsapps
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Eric Rose on A group chat for contributors / paid subs

Comment posted: 10/06/2026

Telegram works for me. Or anything non-META.
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Ken Davis on A group chat for contributors / paid subs

Comment posted: 10/06/2026

Hamish,
to stop this running away from the initial idea (as forums tend to do!) I think we would need to set down it's aims, objectives and how it will operate as a group. Who will chair it, you I hope?
Ken Davis
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David Hume on A group chat for contributors / paid subs

Comment posted: 10/06/2026

One of the things I like about 35MMC is the longer form of the comments, and the thoughtful and friendly way they are conducted. This is something that Hamish has created, so I'd be inclined to trust his instincts if he thinks this path is a good idea. I guess I have a reservation that it might make the community a bit more exclusive in a way - the innies and the outies might not know what each other is doing so much.

I like that I can pop into the comments or can leave them alone depending on how busy I am, whereas I guess if I were getting notifications I'd feel some sort of pull to either check them out or just absent myself entirely. I wonder also if making a group would cut the good conversations off from those people who like to read the comments and discussions but do not feel the need to add their own thoughts to them.

I guess summing up I'd say if Hamish thinks it's a good idea it probably is, but it's not something I'm itching to get into. And I feel that the site as it is progresses and becomes more interesting as time goes by as things stand.
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Ibraar Hussain replied:

Comment posted: 10/06/2026

Agreed

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Walter Reumkens on A group chat for contributors / paid subs

Comment posted: 10/06/2026

I can only agree with David. Judging by the comments so far, most of the supporters here on the forum have hardly been up to scratch. Neither as commenters nor as contributors. Perhaps they should put more time into it.
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David Hume replied:

Comment posted: 10/06/2026

Hi Walter; I'm not sure that I quite understand your comment. You may not have meant this, but I should point out that if you say you agree with me, and then in the next sentence say that most supporters on the forum are hardly up to scratch, the proximity of these two statements implies that message was in what I wrote. If my statement did give that message, it was certainly not my intention. I think I should clarify that one of the things I like about the site as it stands is that there is no barrier to entry to enjoy this site. You don't have to make comments or respond if you don't feel like it, and I think that's really good. There are lots of reasons that people might want to enjoy the articles and read the comments and just keep themselves to themselves without adding anything. I think that's perfectly fine and in fact it's one of the things that I like about the site. Even in my home town in far-off Sth Australia I've had quite a few people come up to me saying they've enjoyed or learned from something I've written. Sometimes they write to me directly but have never commented on the site. I think everyone contributes as best suits them; by writing, commenting or just reading and maybe discussing with their friends. I write and comment because I enjoy it, and I also enjoy that I feel no pressure to do any more or less than suits me. Cheers.

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Walter Reumkens replied:

Comment posted: 10/06/2026

Hi David, I’ve already taken your comment on board. These additional points actually reinforce my view. I see all of this as a benefit of this blog, and I think most of the active users here will agree. A WhatsApp group can only serve as a complement, helping to expand the user base. To answer your specific question: English isn’t my first language. Since I retired 14 years ago, I’ve hardly spoken or read any English. That’s why I’m using a translation tool here. As I’ve realised yet again, it doesn’t always work properly or accurately. I need to be more careful or use a paid version.

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David Hume replied:

Comment posted: 10/06/2026

All good Walter - thank you for clarifying and I appreciate the effort required to engage in another language. Good on you for contributing.

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Alexander Seidler on A group chat for contributors / paid subs

Comment posted: 11/06/2026

This is a good idea i think, but i would not like to use my phone for it. Something web based, i can switch on and off ?
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Martin replied:

Comment posted: 11/06/2026

+1

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Ed on A group chat for contributors / paid subs

Comment posted: 11/06/2026

Hi there - I wonder if the forum could be utilised for this idea. Could a contributors and subscribers only board be created so that the posts would only be available to those who are supporting 35mmc. It's just a thought. It would mean not having to keep track of an additional stream of information. I am a member of other forums where this facility is available for those who wish to use it.

Ed
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Erik Brammer replied:

Comment posted: 11/06/2026

That sounds like a good idea. It would make me go to the forum more often, I think.

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Leonel Leyva C on A group chat for contributors / paid subs

Comment posted: 11/06/2026

WhatsApp groups are chaotic and full of trivial messages... I really like the structure of the comments we have now on the Blog. If a group chat is created, I would like to use a platform different from Meta... Thank you very much for asking for our opinion, Hamish! You make us feel valued, and that's also why we like this Blog.
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Gerard on A group chat for contributors / paid subs

Comment posted: 11/06/2026

Hi Hamish,

Since your idea creates a 'behind the public eye' platform - which might be quite useful - Dropbox could be used as well; it is also able to handle much more contributions, and won't clog everyone's Whatsapp account.
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Danilo Leonardi on A group chat for contributors / paid subs

Comment posted: 11/06/2026

I can see the value in trying to build closer connections between contributors, subscribers, etc., and I appreciate that you're always looking for ways to improve and evolve things, Hamish. If something like a WhatsApp-style group does go ahead, I think it would probably work best as something secondary: an optional, light-touch space that supports engagement, without displacing the comment culture that already exists around the articles. That balance feels important in preserving what makes 35mmc what it is.

For me, one of 35mmc's greatest strengths is that it's a publication with an editorial board, with an engaged community around it, rather than another social media feed. One of the things I admire about the community around 35mmc is that thoughtful comments become attached to the articles themselves. They're left there for someone to discover months or even years later, adding another layer of meaning to the piece. The conversation becomes part of the site's memory.

My hesitation about a WhatsApp group (or similar on another platform) comes from my own experience of those groups. Some become so active they're almost impossible to follow, while others are rather dead. The active ones I often end up muting simply because I have a life outside the online world. When, and if, I return, there may be hundreds of messages, and any worthwhile discussion has usually disappeared into the flow. In one WhatsApp group with photographers in active practice that I'm part of, it often drifts into people trying to sell old gear. I suppose my slightly irrational fear is that a more general and open group might drift into a familiar social media-style cycle of endless messages about whatever is currently being hyped, fairly lightweight (and/or not very enlightened) gear talk, or the recurring “I switched from Brand A to Brand B” narratives.

Thanks, Hamish, for asking. I really appreciate you inviting thoughts before deciding, and I’m sharing these very much in that way.
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David Mackay replied:

Comment posted: 11/06/2026

Danilo I agree with your points and think this should be considered carefully. When expanding to another platform it risks splitting the group you already have. There is a good community on 35mmc. I would love to see an integrated forum for subscribers/contributers on this website rather than elsewhere.

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Geoff Chaplin on A group chat for contributors / paid subs

Comment posted: 11/06/2026

Paul Q made a good point. If using something like WhatsApp / Signal / Line / other I'd suggest restricting it to one line comments only. It would be good for "i'm in Paris this weekend, anyone else there and would like to meet?". Or off topic discussions such as "I'm having problems getting the right contrast range on my prints - anyone with similar problems / can help / has ideas email me and I'll start a group email". Chatting on WhatsApp (etc) is hugely inconvenient with a group.
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Leon Winnert on A group chat for contributors / paid subs

Comment posted: 11/06/2026

The idea has merit. But a few things to consider.

First, have seen one or two comments about an older generation not being able to how shall we say cope with WhatsApp. I personally don't think the comments are valid. It is after all a very simple application. Type your message, add picture if you want to, press send. .

With a Photographic Club I'm a member of most of the membership is middle-aged to late middle-aged and we have a WhatsApp group. Not everybody is on it, that is their personal choice. The majority of the club is and it works fine.

The big problem is ensuring that is not hijacked by group participants using it for banging on about political views, offering abuse to various people and products, generally going off piste. There is a simple solution to that. And that is for Group Admin to take a very Draconian stance with regards to policing content. My photo club's WhatsApp group admin promptly expunges anything that is not photography or club related. Of course group admin has the facility to evict any persistent perpetrators of inappropriate posts as well as unwanted and / or antisocial activity.
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Scott Ferguson on A group chat for contributors / paid subs

Comment posted: 11/06/2026

Hmmm,
Reading your post kind of quickly, I thought this was a proposal to do some kind of 'live' chat, like a zoom meet up, which I think might be kind of fun -- adding voices and moving faces with our friends from around the world! There are some challenges, particularly finding a time that works for our globally reader/writership. I had to organize something like that when we were doing our Covid Season of Succession and arrange live zoom meetings with key people from LA, NY, London, Sweden, and Australia, and someone inevitably had to drag themselves out of bed at 3am (usually Australia).

That being said, I think a live zoom that could range in topics like Post Production, constructive critiques, maybe bring in some special guests, like an admired photograprer, like some of the cool people Ibbs was writing about a while back, or talking about certain styles or techniques like Landscape, Street, Documentary, Architecture, Fine Art, all could be quite interesting.

Being honest, I'm a little uncertain about how best to use a text group chat. Maybe we could do some of the same things I was contemplating for a zoom without the pressure of asking David Hume to get up at 3am? It could also be a great way to get "hive mind" advice on a piece of gear you're thinking of buying, but there already seem to be other forums that do that, like Reddit and many other online photo reviewing resources. But I'm with David Hume, if you think it can be useful and interesting, Hamish, I'd be game to give it a go.

Cheers,

s
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David Mackay on A group chat for contributors / paid subs

Comment posted: 12/06/2026

Hamish I like the idea and would hope that it is something that can be added to the website rather than to another app. However if it was WhatsApp I would definitely join it. I think 35mmc has a great community and would love to have an old style forum for people to talk on, or to find some way in which the comments/threads of the current site are more interconnected.
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Jeffery Luhn on A group chat for contributors / paid subs

Comment posted: 13/06/2026

I'm interested to know what a splinter group would do that 35mmc doesn't provide. My guess is an opportunity for more in depth discussions, but 35mmc seems to be adequate for my needs. It's the only site I check every day. That being said, I'd certainly visit a new platform and be open to any benefits it offered. Cheers to our community and thank you Hamish!
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Steve Abbott on A group chat for contributors / paid subs

Comment posted: 13/06/2026

+1 to Jeffery Luhn's comment above. I find that current volume of posts more than fills my available bandwidth, and anything extra would be overwhelming and thus superfluous. More to the point, I'd worry that what would otherwise be comments to postings would move outside 35mmc, and thus diminish what we currently have. If it ain't broke, don't fix it?
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Gary Smith on A group chat for contributors / paid subs

Comment posted: 13/06/2026

Been offline for the last week. I have often wanted to reply to an article with an included image but I understand how that would booger the works. I would have thought that the RPF would have served as the alternative forum for discussions. Perhaps adding a restricted area there? I don't use WhatsApp or Signal or anything. I have minimal apps on my phone. Maybe opening up a new permission to contributors that would allow each of us access to each other via email (that we could individually opt into).
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